VaMilBill Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I don’t want to put the cart before the horse, but I have a feeling some individuals at One Bills Drive reads this board and pulls some info from here. Maybe not coaches, but people close with decision makers. Anyways, with the new OT rules created post 13 seconds for the playoffs, I can’t imagine a scenario where you would ever want to receive if you win the toss. All the advantage lies with the kicking team. If you get a quick stop and force a 3 and out, you probably end up with good field position and the chance to win the game on a FG. If you’re defense is gassed and has been getting gashed all game, like we were in 13 seconds and the Eagles game this year (second half), then it allows you to maybe get lucky with a stop or a turnover. And if the opponent ends up scoring a TD, you know your team also needs a TD. On top of that you have four downs on each set of downs as well. If you score a TD, go for two and end the game without having to put the onus back on defense (control your own destiny so to speak). Does anyone have counterpoints to this? Reason why I bring this up is because I think we’ve all seen how it seems as though the kicking team has the advantage in OT this year. On top of that, we suck in OT under McD. Hope McD picks up some pointers and can apply them if we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 if the offense scores a TD on the opening drive does that take away the chance for the kicking team in OT from possesing the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: if the offense scores a TD on the opening drive does that take away the chance for the kicking team in OT from possesing the ball? Not in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: if the offense scores a TD on the opening drive does that take away the chance for the kicking team in OT from possesing the ball? Both teams get the ball and get a chance to match and then next points after that wins. I'd like to see an entire additional quarter or half of a quarter played. Who wouldn't want more football? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: If you’re defense is gassed and has been getting gashed all game, like we were in 13 seconds and the Eagles game this year (second half), then it allows you to maybe get lucky with a stop or a turnover. If your D is gassed, better to get the ball first and let them rest then. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Agreed with OP. If you get the ball first, you have the option of punting and may only use 3 downs. If I get it second, I know I'm in 4 down territory. I'd prefer the latter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just now, chongli said: If your D is gassed, better to get the ball first and let them rest then. If the defense has been getting gashed all game I don’t see how that would change in OT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Side point... The Bills should have absolutely kicked off in OT against the Jets week one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Both teams get the ball and get a chance to match and then next points after that wins. I'd like to see an entire additional quarter or half of a quarter played. Who wouldn't want more football? Hockey rules 10 min ot. 2 timeouts. No reviews. If an injured player stops the clock the team can either use a to or he cannot return to the game. If 3 players do this the third player is removed and a to taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I doubt any coach would ever go for 2 instead of kicking for a tie in OT. It would take a whole lot of guts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, DrBob806 said: I doubt any coach would ever go for 2 instead of kicking for a tie in OT. It would take a whole lot of guts. Eagles will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Eagles will. There's a few teams that would consider it, but ultimately it's so high-risk, high-reward I think human nature is to kick it, make it and continue on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Its not perfect but its way better than 13 secs or the AFCCG when the Pats beat the Chiefs. 13 seconds should have not gotten to overtime but once it did who won the toss won the game. I thought at the time that once we lost the toss we should have onside kicked it. There was no way we were going stop anything with or tired defense and McD and Frazier's soft zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, boyst said: Hockey rules 10 min ot. 2 timeouts. No reviews. If an injured player stops the clock the team can either use a to or he cannot return to the game. If 3 players do this the third player is removed and a to taken. Hockey rules? I agree. Seven-man football in overtime!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Hockey rules? I agree. Seven-man football in overtime!! have to go to your backup QB in OT. Remove one lineman for both teams, and 1 safety/1 WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, VaMilBill said: don’t want to put the cart before the horse, but I have a feeling some individuals at One Bills Drive reads this board and pulls some info from here. Maybe not coaches, but people close with decision makers. Christ, I hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Both teams get the ball and get a chance to match and then next points after that wins. I'd like to see an entire additional quarter or half of a quarter played. Who wouldn't want more football? Quarter? Gee imagine an extra quarter football in the playoffs, after an entire grueling season, wouldn't be any disadvantage in the next playoff game if they win (and not the SuperBowl). NEVER HAPPEN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, chongli said: If your D is gassed, better to get the ball first and let them rest then. If my D is gassed going into OT then one of my scrubs on the KO team is going to trip and get injured on his jog out for the kickoff and lay on the field for 10 minutes “injured” Edited December 20, 2023 by peterpan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, VaMilBill said: If the defense has been getting gashed all game I don’t see how that would change in OT If your D just ended the 4th, better to let them rest in OT while your O gets the ball first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 counterpoint? don't pizz the game away in 13 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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