Luka Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: McDermott tried to lose the Tampa game too don’t forget. Almost lost to the Giants also. Let them drive all the way down the field and got lucky on 4th down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The Refs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills point differential is around all of the teams that are 8-3 or better. That’s a sign of talent. The record is a sign of coaching. Look at the chart that I provided. The teams that outscore their opponents like the Bills, win more than they lose. Dallas, SF, Baltimore, Buffalo, Miami, KC, Philly and Detroit. One of those things is not like the others. The Bills ARE the anomaly. It’s coaching. The Steelers have a negative point differential, but are in the playoffs. Must be all that talent squeezing out situational wins for them. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: We aren’t that good of a team. Holy ***** guys, I know you’re all upset but come on. Do we have a single defensive player who will even make a Pro Bowl at this point? Bernard maybe? @Kirby Jackson keeps bringing up the leaders in point differential. Which are the teams I listed above. are we the same level of talent of almost all of those teams? NO. We are definitely more talented than the Eagles??? Ive heard enough. This is an emotional whirlpool you’ve put yourself in lol You can say that they aren’t good. I go to point differential because it isn’t subjective. If you look at the top 10 teams in point differential it encompasses all of the league’s best teams. The Bills are the exception. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills point differential is around all of the teams that are 8-3 or better. That’s a sign of talent. The record is a sign of coaching. Look at the chart that I provided. The teams that outscore their opponents like the Bills, win more than they lose. Dallas, SF, Baltimore, Buffalo, Miami, KC, Philly and Detroit. One of those things is not like the others. The Bills ARE the anomaly. It’s coaching. Like I said, if you think we are as talented as Dallas, SF, Baltimore, Miami, Philly, then I get why you’re so upset. Me, personally, I think AJ Brown and Smith are better than Diggs and Davis. I think Swift is better than Cook. I think the Philly OL and DL are way better than ours. I think CMC is pretty good. Aiyuk and Deebo also. Kittle is also pretty good. But when you think Quinton Morris and Khalil Shakir running routes are just as effective as some of those guys, I can see why you’d think it was such coaching failure. I personally disagree. Hot take, I’d rather have Deebo and CMC. Edited November 27, 2023 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Like I said, if you think we are as talented as Dallas, SF, Baltimore, Miami, Philly, then I get why you’re so upset. Me, personally, I think AJ Brown and Smith are better than Diggs and Davis. I think Swift is better than Cook. I think the Philly OL and DL are way better than ours. I think CMC is pretty good. Aiyuk and Deebo also. Kittle is also pretty good. But when you think Quinton Morris and Khalil Shakir running routes are just as effective as some of those guys, I can see why you’d think it was such coaching failure. Again, you’re applying subjective feelings to data. Teams that outscore their opponents like the Bills do, have significantly better records. That’s not “how I feel.” The numbers can’t be debated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Like I said, if you think we are as talented as Dallas, SF, Baltimore, Miami, Philly, then I get why you’re so upset. Me, personally, I think AJ Brown and Smith are better than Diggs and Davis. I think Swift is better than Cook. I think the Philly OL and DL are way better than ours. I think CMC is pretty good. Aiyuk and Deebo also. Kittle is also pretty good. But when you think Quinton Morris and Khalil Shakir running routes are just as effective as some of those guys, I can see why you’d think it was such coaching failure. I think based on what we just saw mere hours ago, that is all arguable, especially the OL/DL. Seemed like the Bills dominated there way more. We had a 10 point lead a couple times. It was situational decisions that blew it. San Fran is the most talented roster in the league. Sure, I'd like their roster. Doesnt mean the Bills dont have talent to compete with the best, and should beat plenty of other lesser teams. Edited November 27, 2023 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 😂😂we are 10th in the AFC lol it's not a talent issue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Sean McDermott isn’t getting fired this season after signing a new contract extension just not going to happen so it’s not even worth talking about. If I had a pick for Buffalo Bills head coach in 2024 it would be trading with the New England Patriots for the rights to Bill Belichick but the Bills would have to get behind a number of teams Los Angeles Chargers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers that are interested in trading for Bill Belichick if he becomes available. But I would be very surprised if the New England Patriots parted ways with Bill Belichick but if they did I would hope Terry Pegula and Brandon Beane would make the call. Again I wouldn’t even be against letting Sean McDermott continue as head coach with no power/defensive coordinator head coaching in waiting when Bill Belichick retires. Sean McDermott could learn something working under Bill Belichick for a few years. It would be like the 1978 New York Yankees Billy Martin coming back after Bob Lemon. So you aren’t firing Sean McDermott he is just learning for a few years under Bill Belichick. If Sean McDermott refuses your out of the Buffalo Bills contract for being insubordinate to the owner Terry Pegula’s wishes. Sean McDermott would still be head coach to stay in the legal terms of the contract just with no power. No where in that contract does it say Sean McDermott has to have the final say. Just that he has to be Bills head coach. Head coach can be a lot of interpretations. Bill Belichick can be an executive that stands on the sidelines and makes all the on field decisions. If Sean McDermott is the team player he says he is he needs to not pout and suck it up taking orders from Bill Belichick until Bill Belichick retires so that is what I would do. I would hope Sean McDermott practices what he preaches and is a team player trust the process Sean take orders from Bill Belichick. If I owned the Bills that is what I would do in 2024 in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Edited November 27, 2023 by Buffalo Super Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I'd interview Frank Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Love it or hate it, id be shocked if McD fired until at latest next year mid season. It is wat it is. Oh he’s absolutely coming back. We are all stuck with this POS until the entire team just quits. We are going to get the living ***** kicked out of us in KC. This team is going to implode after that loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Again, you’re applying subjective feelings to data. Teams that outscore their opponents like the Bills do, have significantly better records. That’s not “how I feel.” The numbers can’t be debated. It’s not subjective that Brandon Aiyuk is better than Gabe Davis. You asked for an explanation why we are such an anomaly in point differential, I gave you a reason. You keep saying “it’s coaching” like that isn’t subjective. The numbers are the numbers. They don’t say “it’s coaching.” Try playing by your own rules when debating lol 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I think based on what we just saw mere hours ago, that is all arguable, especially the OL/DL. Seemed like the Bills dominated there way more. We had a 10 point lead a couple times. It was situational decisions that blew it. San Fran is the most talented roster in the league. Sure, I'd like their roster. Doesnt mean the Bills dont have talent to compete with the best, and should beat plenty of other lesser teams. Okay, you are welcome to argue that the Bills DL is more talented than the Eagles. Or that the Bills are as talented as the Niners. I disagree but go for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Okay, you are welcome to argue that the Bills DL is more talented than the Eagles. Or that the Bills are as talented as the Niners. I disagree but go for it. You dont even read before you respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: It’s not subjective that Brandon Aiyuk is better than Gabe Davis. You asked for an explanation why we are such an anomaly in point differential, I gave you a reason. You keep saying “it’s coaching” like that isn’t subjective. The numbers are the numbers. They don’t say “it’s coaching.” Try playing by your own rules when debating lol Okay, you are welcome to argue that the Bills DL is more talented than the Eagles. Or that the Bills are as talented as the Niners. I disagree but go for it. We have Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Mike Norvell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Allen is being wasted here, if I was McD I would fire myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: You dont even read before you respond. I do. You can argue anything you’d like. You said it was debatable that our lines are just as good as the Eagles. My take is that the Bills shot themselves in the foot with bad games during the easy portion of their schedule, they got snake bitten with injuries on the defensive side and we are clearly a step or two behind the elite teams in both conferences IRT overall talent level and thus have had a disappointing season. And that sucks. It’s not some grand failure because the coach called a blitz and got beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, FireChans said: It’s not subjective that Brandon Aiyuk is better than Gabe Davis. You asked for an explanation why we are such an anomaly in point differential, I gave you a reason. You keep saying “it’s coaching” like that isn’t subjective. The numbers are the numbers. They don’t say “it’s coaching.” Try playing by your own rules when debating lol Okay, you are welcome to argue that the Bills DL is more talented than the Eagles. Or that the Bills are as talented as the Niners. I disagree but go for it. Here’s the difference. You are saying that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE BILLS ROSTER IS ON PAR WITH THE BEST TEAMS. I tend to agree, with the injuries, but someone could easily argue against that. What I’m saying is that TEAMS THAT HAVE A POINT DIFFERENTIAL, LIKE THE BILLS, AREN’T .500. That can’t be argued. That’s a fact. Whether or not you believe that they are good is subjective. Edited November 27, 2023 by Kirby Jackson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: We have Allen And he wasn’t enough to win tonight lol. Gabe Davis missed a wide open game winning TD. Zaccheus (sp?) out jumped our rickety ass washed safeties for the go ahead tuddy. Talent issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Allen is being wasted here, if I was McD I would fire myself. And maybe it will take Allen making waves that gets us the change we need. I'm not sure what Allen's relationship with McD is. It doesn't seem great to me and it's clear from the comments of all involved that it was Bean & McD that tried to remake Allen into a different, less effective QB in the off season. I suspect that Allen has a clause in his contract that won't let the Bills restructure it without his permission. If he does then he has leverage. If Allen wants to succeed at the highest level and compete in and win Super Bowls, it will NEVER happen with McD as coach or Bean as GM. Allen will need to get out of Buffalo before all the tread is off the tire. Pegula absolutely will be sensitive to Allen's feelings here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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