gobills404 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Would be 4 if Taron hadn’t gotten away with PI on the last play against the Giants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: * Solid owner * Facilities and organizational infrastructure rated by the players in a poll as among the top 10 in the NFL * A brand new kick a$$ stadium * A REAL home field advantage * An elite QB whose upside might be beyond anything we fans could possibly imagine. What do you think a truly innovative offensive minded coach could do with Allen after surrounding him with top tier offensive talent? So yes this would be the most attractive job opening of the possible 10 or so openings that might happen this off season. You forgot * A miserable weather city (agreed on by most) * One of the highest income tax states * An emotional small media city * A notorious choking losing franchise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: McD deserves a ton of credit for firing Josh’s boy and his friend Ken. It was McD’s decision and clearly the right one. If it was his decision, now I have to wonder if it was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: People are angry and justifiably so in a lot of areas. I still think they go one more with Mcdermott. When/if that fails they’ll clean house and partially gut what’s left of the roster. Well that would be monumental mismanagement of a talent like Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: You forgot * A miserable weather city (agreed on by most) * One of the highest income tax states * An emotional small media city * A notorious choking losing franchise I doubt very many head coaches factor weather into the consideration. The income tax is a problem that can easily be solved by paying above rate for the coach. An emotional small media city can be seen as a positive to. It's almost college like. Any guy good enough for us to want to be the Bills coach is going to have a healthy sized ego - it comes with the job. And that ego will convince them that THEY are the one to turn around this notorious choking franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I doubt very many head coaches factor weather into the consideration. The income tax is a problem that can easily be solved by paying above rate for the coach. An emotional small media city can be seen as a positive to. It's almost college like. Any guy good enough for us to want to be the Bills coach is going to have a healthy sized ego - it comes with the job. And that ego will convince them that THEY are the one to turn around this notorious choking franchise. Sure, I was just pointing out the Bills HC job isn’t all roses like you implied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Sure, I was just pointing out the Bills HC job isn’t all roses like you implied. Nothing in life is but I suspect that there will be 7 or 8 jobs open up and the Bills would be the best one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: If it was his decision, now I have to wonder if it was correct. 60+ points in the last two games, you don't need to keep wondering. Edited November 27, 2023 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: If it was his decision, now I have to wonder if it was correct. Through 2 games, how can you argue the contrary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Through 2 games, how can you argue the contrary? not arguing, just saying my first instinct is that McDummy is a McDummy doing McDummy things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: not arguing, just saying my first instinct is that McDummy is a McDummy doing McDummy things That’s actually dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: McDermott is absolutely not the answer. He’s a loser that always loses. If McDermott is fired, it’ll be one of the most desirable jobs available. If you were Terry Pegula, who would you hire? I’m in record that I’d fire McDermott in the morning and hand Brady the keys. I’d give him a 6 week audition. If it doesn’t work, I’d probably hire Bobby Slowik. Ben Johnson would be my 2nd option. I was thinking Joe Brady myself but was afraid to say anything for fear I might get mauled on here lol… But all kidding aside I like Joe Brady so far I’d be all for it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, FireChans said: If we started the year with Ben Johnson, or Haurbaugh, or whoever you want, we wouldn’t be 10-1. We'd probably be 9-3 at worst to be honest. And just about guaranteed a playoff spot in a conference with no clear dominant team. Still in the running for the #1 seed. At the very least we would have beaten the Broncos and Patriots with another coach. I would wager at least 1 win out of the other 3 losses too. The team has flaws outside of McDermott, clearly. But he exacerbates them. That is undeniable. It's not like we're talking nebulous coaching prowess here, there are distinct and specific moments that we can point to where McDermott personally failed his team in each of our losses this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: McDermott is absolutely not the answer. He’s a loser that always loses. If McDermott is fired, it’ll be one of the most desirable jobs available. If you were Terry Pegula, who would you hire? I’m in record that I’d fire McDermott in the morning and hand Brady the keys. I’d give him a 6 week audition. If it doesn’t work, I’d probably hire Bobby Slowik. Ben Johnson would be my 2nd option. I’ve been a McD supporter but I finally agree. He’s got to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, FireChans said: Like I said, if you think we are as talented as Dallas, SF, Baltimore, Miami, Philly, then I get why you’re so upset. Your argument falls apart when you realize that we lost 3 games this year to teams that we are CLEARLY more talented than. CLEARLY - Jets, Pats, and Broncos. Jags I would say maybe equal talent? But I also think Josh is at least two full tiers higher than Lawrence as a QB so to me that gives us a slight edge over them. For argument's sake we'll call it a wash. Bengals are (were, before Burrow's injury) slightly more talented, and Eagles are moderately more talented. So putting the discussion about point differential aside, we have a team that is only 6-3 against teams they are clearly MORE talented than. We are then 0-3 against teams that have equal or greater talent than us. How again is this an argument in favor of McDermott? I think you've lost the plot a bit here by pulling in teams like the Ravens and 49ers who we haven't even played. Our record compared to our actual schedule is clearly well below par. And yeah that is obviously a coaching issue. I mean how many teams ahead of us in the AFC standings are clearly more talented than us? Maybe just the Ravens and not even by a landslide? The truth is we are lagging far behind most of the conference in coaching, not in talent. Edited November 27, 2023 by HappyDays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. Players are McDermott is put in a position to win week in and week out. Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 If we change, I'd like us to change to someone with a proven track record. The brief is 'instant success' so not much point in giving someone unproven a trial run. You do that when building. The theory is that our roster is almost built. So we need a coach that can make it work from day one. Otherwise we might as well stick tbh., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 There is 1 common core, the root, all the way to the top, the tree that provides growth. Our tree grew full size a couple years back and bloomed. Should have planted a new tree then. It's time to find a tree that might can grow a little bigger, ours is withering. Or for the real plant people, a bigger pot to say to let the tree grow instead of wasting its years in a small container Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: No. He’s the easy scapegoat. The next man up in the blame game. Our losses are by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 3. I don’t think a new HC gets you over that hump. Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. We shouldn’t take that for granted. I agree As much as this sucks, Bills can definitely win out or even go 4-1 and get in the playoffs, where they can definitely go on a run. Frustrating but not sure it's directly on McD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Ralonzo said: If it was his decision, now I have to wonder if it was correct. Yep, it’s definitely a red flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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