Kneeling 🧎‍♀️it down with 20 seconds left, one of the best QBs in thr league, and one TO

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

How many examples do you need to see where a team goes on a FG drive in ~20 seconds or less? 

 

Our offense did it a year ago against the Lions. The Chiefs have done it to us (TWICE!). I'm sure there's more examples from just Bills games let alone league wide. 

 

You 100% try to win the game there. It's not even a consideration. 

 

Josh was playing great and the decision to kneel was one of the more cowardly decisions that our overly conservative HC has made. 

 

[Kgun5]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:00 AM, RoscoeParrish said:

And the exact sentiment of this board if Josh throws a pick. “We were playing so well, why not give yourself a chance in overtime, why put Josh in a bad situation, blah blah blah”

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Nah…Losing happens. But this coach almost never makes the right win% call. That is especially true when he doesn’t have a timeout to think about it.

[RoscoeParrish]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:03 AM, Kgun5 said:

Nah…Losing happens. But this coach almost never makes the right win% call. That is especially true when he doesn’t have a timeout to think about it.

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Pretty sure the analytics say take a knee there bro

[thenorthremembers]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:44 AM, Billever76 said:

You know what else he leads the league in? Scoring touchdowns and before McDermott slowed the offense down allen also was one of the best in comeback wins and 4th quarter wins....what has McDermott done for this team that is even close to what allen does for this team? We can find ten more McDermott in 1 off-season bet we couldn't find another allen in a decade

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McDermott has done a ton for this organization.   If you cant admit that then you're being incredibly myopic.   I wont argue that Allen is more important to the organization, that goes without saying.   My issue is, it is so easy for everyone here to say "we need to fire McDermott" or your "We can find ten more McDermott's in 1 off-seasons" and thats just not accurate.  

 

Changing the coach after one down season just because maybe it will make the situation better isnt always the way to go.   What those of you who want him gone fail to say is, it could always get worse.   I've said it before 521 coaches have been hired in the NFL, only 6% of them have won a Super Bowl.  Its not that easy to hire a good coach.     FIre the guy sure, but dont pretend he hasnt done a ton for this organization.

 

 

Edited November 27, 2023 by thenorthremembers

[Kgun5]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:07 AM, RoscoeParrish said:

Pretty sure the analytics say take a knee there bro

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I want to see those numbers.

[HumbleAndHungry]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:16 AM, dhbGT500 said:

He should've had at least 2 TO's...he blew one trying to ice the kicker!

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McDermott should be teleported back into the 1950's where he belongs. His overall philosophy is archaic 

[DrDawkinstein]

Absolute fireable offense, let alone from the "13 seconds" guy (who also saw the Chiefs do the SAME THING week 7 last year with 16 seconds left).

[DuckyBoys]

we basically cannot win unless its a blowout with this guy as the HC

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:41 AM, DuckyBoys said:

we basically cannot win unless its a blowout with this guy as the HC

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And even when we're rolling, we rarely have any real lead because McD likes to keep it close. We just let teams hang around and hang around and then our D cant get the stop.

[Turk71]

No guts

No glory

Trying not to lose is not a winning mentality

The Bills won the toss this time but a possession in overtime is not guaranteed. How can you pass up a chance to win when you may not get another?

Needed 35 yards to have a long chance, 58 yds....had 2 possibly 3 plays to get there.

Inside I felt like they were gonna lose when they made that decision...I pushed it out of my head when they won the coin toss but it felt like a gutless and dumb decision.

 

[stevestojan]

https://x.com/getnickwright/status/1728963333540532684?s=20

Not sure why it’s not embedding. But it’s a tweet from Nick Wright, who I rarely agree with but:

 

”Still thinking about this entire sequence… First, McDermott uses his 2nd TO to “ice” a rushed kicker attempting a 59 yarder… then doesn’t let Allen, who was on an absolute heater, take at least one shot w/ :20 left, w/ a TO left, to get a chunk & have a shot at FG range.” 

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[Turk71]

It was embarrassingly weak and incredibly stupid.

The Bills were a coin flip away from not even getting an OT possession and he's taking a knee....

[RiotAct]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:08 AM, thenorthremembers said:

McDermott has done a ton for this organization.   If you cant admit that then you're being incredibly myopic.   I wont argue that Allen is more important to the organization, that goes without saying.   My issue is, it is so easy for everyone here to say "we need to fire McDermott" or your "We can find ten more McDermott's in 1 off-seasons" and thats just not accurate.  

 

Changing the coach after one down season just because maybe it will make the situation better isnt always the way to go.   What those of you who want him gone fail to say is, it could always get worse.   I've said it before 521 coaches have been hired in the NFL, only 6% of them have won a Super Bowl.  Its not that easy to hire a good coach.     FIre the guy sure, but dont pretend he hasnt done a ton for this organization.

 

 

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they can build a shrine to him in the new stadium for all I care… while hopefully a new head coach is leading us and actually, imagine this, giving his players the  best chance to win the game.

  On 11/27/2023 at 3:00 AM, Turk71 said:

It was embarrassingly weak and incredibly stupid.

The Bills were a coin flip away from not even getting an OT possession and he's taking a knee....

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yeah, that’s a good point as well.  We lose the coin flip, there’s a good chance we don’t  even see the ball again.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:05 AM, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Kneels. 

 

This coach is a total loser.

 

Why not try to win the game? 
 

He should be walking back to Buffalo. 
 

So pathetic 

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DID YOU WATCH THE DOLPHINS/JETS GAME ON FRIDAY???????????????????

 

This post is a JOKE.

Edited November 27, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan

[billsfan714]

Getting a little sick of hearing  what McD has done for this team.   The 3 years prior with Marrone and Rex we were basically a 500 team, and they did that with Orton and Tyrod, they didnt have Allen and Diggs.   Marrone was 9-7 I believe, same as Seans first playoff year.    Its not like we were 1-15.   I would think the Bills would have the pick of the litter of new coaches.   How many head coaches never really get a chance when you draft people like Manziel, Joey Harrington, Akili Smith, Rosen, and on and on.   Get a head coaching gig with a very good qb, yeah coaches would want that.    Sean's had his chance, he comes up small when it counts, time for a change.

[RiotAct]

  On 11/27/2023 at 3:18 AM, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

DID YOU WATCH THE DOLPHINS/JETS GAME ON FRIDAY???????????????????

 

This post is a JOKE.

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1 - we were’t going to be heaving up a Hail Mary.

 

2 - Allen is not Boyle.

[Drew21PA]

I can’t believe the people mad at you for tjis

 

cmon we lost with 13 seconds - Mahomes has a coach that actually wants to win 

 

McDermott is a loser 

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:07 AM, RoscoeParrish said:

Pretty sure the analytics say take a knee there bro

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Hmmm 13 seconds

 

 

20 seconds ….

[chongli]

 

[RoscoeParrish]

  On 11/27/2023 at 3:23 AM, Drew21PA said:

I can’t believe the people mad at you for tjis

 

cmon we lost with 13 seconds - Mahomes has a coach that actually wants to win 

 

McDermott is a loser 

Hmmm 13 seconds

 

 

20 seconds ….

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Mahomes > Allen

 

Chiefs > Bills

[EasternOHBillsFan]

  On 11/27/2023 at 3:22 AM, RiotAct said:

1 - we were’t going to be heaving up a Hail Mary.

 

2 - Allen is not Boyle.

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Josh's INTs more often than not have been Hail Marys, though... it's a momentum killer, especially on the road.