BuffaloBillyG Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: The firing of Dorsey would clearly be a last chance for McD. He will either figure it out, or be told to hire the best possible person. Well, I don't think he was directed to hire a clown last go around. The problem is McDermott was able to convince higher up that Dorsey was the best man for the job. Because continuity. Because Josh's preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Back2Buff said: Contingency plans for what? One bad season in a 5 year stretch? Whatever man. Lots of fanbases can't stand the Bills fanbase now, and I understand it. A far cry from where the fan base was 10-15 years ago. It’s not one bad season, it’s a steady regression since 2020. AFC Championship loss, 13 seconds, embarrassed by the Bengals at home in the Divisional Round and now they’re 5-5 through 10 games with some inexcusable losses. The fan base reaction is warranted Edited November 15, 2023 by PauleeeWalnuts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Well, I don't think he was directed to hire a clown last go around. The problem is McDermott was able to convince higher up that Dorsey was the best man for the job. Because continuity. Because Josh's preference. Correct. They thought they could just move forward with little drop off. Hasn’t worked out. They won’t make the same mistake twice if he wants to keep his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I don't think he's afraid to make a change. This was the all-in year and this coaching staff and team failed, and there should be consequences. This is a very expensive and embarrassing business failure we're all witnessing. The contract extensions are small potatoes compared to what's on the line if you open a new stadium with a bad NFL team no one is paying to watch. The time to make a change is at the conclusion of this season. It gives a new coaching staff a honeymoon year of 2024, but Pegula needs an ascending team for the new stadium. I personally would give McDermott and Dorsey their walking papers this week, as I've seen enough, and see if I can salvage this season with interim leadership. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gregg said: If you go by the Sabres then you know Terry has what it takes. He has fired and hired many GM's/HC's as Sabres owner. IMHO, he has no choice but to fire McDermott. The team seems to have tuned McDermott out and his message has gone stale. I doubt the players believe in "THE PROCESS" anymore. The fans certainly don't. yep, that's worked well so far. Though I believe it's time for McDermott Edited November 14, 2023 by nucci 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Araiza Curse said: I’ve been pretty happy with ownership up until hearing about extending McD. This game was the last straw. It was embarrassing and we have Josh Allen, there is no reason for it. They married McBeane, without seeing how this season would turn out. Seeing the Sabres also inspires little hope they will ever figure it out. The most frustrating thing ever is knowing we have Allen and Diggs and this is the udder garbage that we get from coaches. I know this is very rare but McD is tradable in the off season we can trade him to some team for a conditional pick basically giving away his 4yr contract. It’s outside the box thinking but McD is respected league wide and no doubt will get another job right away so trading him should be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I know this is very rare but McD is tradable in the off season we can trade him to some team for a conditional pick basically giving away his 4yr contract. It’s outside the box thinking but McD is respected league wide and no doubt will get another job right away so trading him should be easy. No one is giving up a draft pick for McDermott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Bills wont win anything with McD as HC.......sad but true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol now it’s the owner’s fault. Hero worship is a weeeeeeeeeeeird thing. The Josh apologists are really juiced up on the kool-aid. Ok after we ditch White, Davis,, Poyer, Hyde, McD, Beane, and Pegula who is next? Goodell? The Pope? I mean, we know Josh is perfect so we can’t possibly expect him to even make the tiniest of changes. You’re weird. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 No. They should sell the team ASAP. Shouldn't Terry P. be concentrating on his wife/family at this time anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 BITTEN KNEECAPS I SAY, BITTEN KNEECAPS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Josh is a turnover machine! Unfortunately, he is Jameis Winston part 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said: I feel bad for Terry. The guy can't catch a break. He gave complete control of organization to Beane and McDermott and they make mistake after mistake. He is dealing with trying to keep his wife alive. He hires qualified people to run PSE and stadium decisions, only for them completely disrespect him and start a relationship with each other. I don't even know where to turn anymore. The guy has to feel like his world is crumbling around him. He's fired everyone and took over the Bills and the Sabres. He's not very good at either, it turns out. But at least he got rid of those execs having a consensual relationship!! At least he has those soothing billions....that where I would turn to about now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: He's fired everyone and took over the Bills and the Sabres. He's not very good at either, it turns out. But at least he got rid of those execs having a consensual relationship!! At least he has those soothing billions....that where I would turn to about now Beane and McDermott have been rated as a top 5 team through the last 3 or so years. To say he wasn't good at bringing in them is so ridiculous. It says more about you saying that than it does Pegula. There is no such thing as a consensual relationship in the corporate world within different hierarchies. Lawsuit waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Beane and McDermott have been rated as a top 5 team through the last 3 or so years. To say he wasn't good at bringing in them is so ridiculous. It says more about you saying that than it does Pegula. There is no such thing as a consensual relationship in the corporate world within different hierarchies. Lawsuit waiting to happen. yet here we are, having this discussion. Pegula's only positive decisions have been those 2 hirings---and now the water is circling the bowl. And that's what you want to point out--the 2 architects of Bills ultimate futility over the past 3 or so years, as things are now falling apart?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, dpberr said: I don't think he's afraid to make a change. This was the all-in year and this coaching staff and team failed, and there should be consequences. This is a very expensive and embarrassing business failure we're all witnessing. The contract extensions are small potatoes compared to what's on the line if you open a new stadium with a bad NFL team no one is paying to watch. The time to make a change is at the conclusion of this season. It gives a new coaching staff a honeymoon year of 2024, but Pegula needs an ascending team for the new stadium. I personally would give McDermott and Dorsey their walking papers this week, as I've seen enough, and see if I can salvage this season with interim leadership. You have given a hopeless man a sliver of hope. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, dpberr said: I don't think he's afraid to make a change. This was the all-in year and this coaching staff and team failed, and there should be consequences. This is a very expensive and embarrassing business failure we're all witnessing. The contract extensions are small potatoes compared to what's on the line if you open a new stadium with a bad NFL team no one is paying to watch. The time to make a change is at the conclusion of this season. It gives a new coaching staff a honeymoon year of 2024, but Pegula needs an ascending team for the new stadium. I personally would give McDermott and Dorsey their walking papers this week, as I've seen enough, and see if I can salvage this season with interim leadership. This is a myth. the contracts to the stadium will still come. Money will still flow into Pegulas pockets. The TV deals will continue to go up. The State already paid for most of the stadium. he needed an ascending team to get the stadium deal in place. It is in place. that will not drive the decision on what to do with McD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Maybe you're right. This is all Araiza Karma. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 They have owned the Sabers longer than the Bills and look what they have done there. Terry said they were going to win "cups" when he became owner. Maybe he meant dixie cups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, theRalph said: Maybe you're right. This is all Araiza Karma. Why hasn’t he signed with any team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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