gonzo1105 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Spiderweb said: No, he is way too raw and a poor tackler which showed on a major way againat the Jags. He was first man up and got pulled for the reasons I stated to begin my reply. No, I don't care about what he showed in 20 plays. Players get better. Its literally the first action he's ever seen in the NFL. Things tend to slow for guys as they gain more experience and it will for him. AJ Klein provides nothing as a pass defender in a passing league. This team also needs to start developing younger guys on defense as our defense is old as hell right now. He's also going to be a hell of a player in the NFL if he's given the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 1:34 PM, gonzo1105 said: No thanks, let Dorian Williams take his lumps in the easier part of the schedule and get him up to speed. That’ should be the plan going forward. Williams becomes a vital piece in our defense going forward. Look for the defense changing to accommodate AJ Klein playing run defense while Williams takes the Milano coverage and pressure roles. Naturally AJ would come out on obvious passing scenarios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKBills25 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I really think that Klein can fill and do a better job than Williams or Dobs…. even for his age. dude is a dog 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 A.J. “Jason” Klein. He just keeps coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, DKBills25 said: I really think that Klein can fill and do a better job than Williams or Dobs…. even for his age. dude is a dog Why would you think that? The dude is old I’d use them instead of Dodson but that’s totally a break glass in case of emergency situation Bring on the young, athletic freaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 9 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I keep waiting to see an announcement that Kirksey is going to un-retire, but nothing so far... I had not thought of that but that would have been admitting that Benford was a better LB than him he was not going to surpass Tyrel Dodson and Dorian Williams on depth chart which I do not think he will not admit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Eastport bills said: That’ should be the plan going forward. Williams becomes a vital piece in our defense going forward. Look for the defense changing to accommodate AJ Klein playing run defense while Williams takes the Milano coverage and pressure roles. Naturally AJ would come out on obvious passing scenarios. I think his strength is run defense unlike some LBs he can catch. He has manned all three LB positions and is very knowledgeable on defense. No learning curve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: No, I don't care about what he showed in 20 plays. Players get better. Its literally the first action he's ever seen in the NFL. Things tend to slow for guys as they gain more experience and it will for him. AJ Klein provides nothing as a pass defender in a passing league. This team also needs to start developing younger guys on defense as our defense is old as hell right now. He's also going to be a hell of a player in the NFL if he's given the chance. Pound your fists as you might, the kid is not ready and LBs must be able tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Pound your fists as you might, the kid is not ready and LBs must be able tackle. He’s not ready, I already said that but why play a guy who had zero future here and a team that literally only signed him after Spector got hurt. Let Williams grow while the teams suck on the schedule and in 4 weeks you might have a guy who’s ready. but no instead of playing your investment let’s play the guy the Bills have cut 3 times in the last 12 months because he looked good against Russell Wilson 3 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 AJ Klein is now in the active roster. Coaching staff must know what they are doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 His run stuffing/tackling and blitzing are up to snuff. Or was anyway. His pass defense in space, not so much. Hopefully he still has it He was nasty at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Limeaid said: I think his strength is run defense unlike some LBs he can catch. He has manned all three LB positions and is very knowledgeable on defense. No learning curve. Williams has more potential and if you give him time he might get better to help us later in the season. Klein is who he is and probably worse now then what he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, BananaB said: Williams has more potential and if you give him time he might get better to help us later in the season. Klein is who he is and probably worse now then what he was. I do not disagree that Dorian Williams needs time on field - it is why he is on roster. Winning needs to come first and with Terrel Bernard getting dinged up and Matt Milano on IR a veteran is needed to help with defense. If Bills offense is able to perform as in three blowouts there will be time for Williams & Dodson and to get experience on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 2:05 PM, MJS said: Dorian Williams time! Klein should be added to the active roster, but he should be the backup. I will trust McD has a plan to play the LB needed based on the game situations. If our offense plays to its capability then I'm not too scared of our defense taking a few hits down in ranking as we have been pretty solid defensively in most of the games. Good enough to be complementary to a high powered offense of whi c h Josh is more than capable when he's patient and reading the defenses properly. Seems like Josh should watch more film on opponents not so much how they'd play him in past games just what are their defensive strengths and what works best to get that defeated. Josh is capable of dink dunk as well as big plays 8f the defense has problems in pass defense. On 10/9/2023 at 1:33 PM, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. As well. He can help coach up Williams on what he's sees when he 8s on field maybe enough to keep Williams from any rookie mistakes. Just get sense that Dorian is more voachable than Tremaine ever was based on the lack of growth to Tremaine game. On 10/9/2023 at 1:33 PM, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. As well. He can help coach up Williams on what he's sees when he 8s on field maybe enough to keep Williams from any rookie mistakes. Just get sense that Dorian is more voachable than Tremaine ever was based on the lack of growth to Tremaine's game. On 10/9/2023 at 1:33 PM, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. As well. He can help coach up Williams on what he's sees when he 8s on field maybe enough to keep Williams from any rookie mistakes. Just get sense that Dorian is more voachable than Tremaine ever was based on the lack of growth to Tremaine's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 1:33 PM, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. As well. He can help coach up Williams on what he's sees when he 8s on field maybe enough to keep Williams from any rookie mistakes. Just get sense that Dorian is more voachable than Tremaine ever was based on the lack of growth to Tremaine's game. Also maybe there's is some plan to bring in a free agent vet in later part of year to beef up area of need without the full cost of rest of season cost in cap $$. Say a Anthony Barr is open to playing in 2nd half of season for a chance at a ring without the full toil of a full season and benefitting from being healthy and fresh in 5 h e end run to playoffs and thru the post season as well. On 10/9/2023 at 1:33 PM, Joe Ferguson said: He may not be as quick as Milano but he's a smart veteran and already knows Bills defensive plays. There's a reason he is kept in the PS. He will shine in the starting lineup. As well. He can help coach up Williams on what he's sees when he is on field maybe enough to keep Williams from any rookie mistakes. Just get sense that Dorian is more voachable than Tremaine ever was based on the lack of growth to Tremaine's game. Also maybe there's is some plan to bring in a free agent vet in later part of year to beef up area of need without the full cost of rest of season cost in cap $$. Say an Anthony Barr is open to playing in 2nd half of season for a chance at a ring without the full toil of a full season and benefitting from being healthy and fresh in the end run to playoffs and thru the post season as well. He may take a team friendly deal for a chance at a ringvwith less wear and tear if he signs later in year. Free agents don't have to worry bout a trade deadline. Not sure what the cutoff date is to add a new player to roster for season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Break in case of glass linebacker Go with the rook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Hey why don't I just go and eat some hay. I can lay by the bay, make things out of clay, I just may, what'd ya say? Edited October 12, 2023 by Alpo Chino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I am encouraged with how well Dodson played. Williams is a super talented kid who just needs some snaps. As bad as listing Milano is.. Jones is just as bad 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: I do not disagree that Dorian Williams needs time on field - it is why he is on roster. Winning needs to come first and with Terrel Bernard getting dinged up and Matt Milano on IR a veteran is needed to help with defense. If Bills offense is able to perform as in three blowouts there will be time for Williams & Dodson and to get experience on the field. Winning don’t matter if you lose in the playoffs. We know we’re gonna win games, especially with a few weak teams coming up. You want to improve as the season goes on and be your best in the playoffs. You think Klein is gonna be our best option when we face teams like KC, SF and Philly? Lmao! It’s an option but it’s gonna be frustrating to watch Edited October 12, 2023 by BananaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, BananaB said: Winning don’t matter if you lose in the playoffs. We know we’re gonna win games, especially with a few weak teams coming up. You want to improve as the season goes on and be your best in the playoffs. You think Klein is gonna be our best option when we face teams like KC, SF and Philly? Lmao! It’s an option but it’s gonna be frustrating to watch Im not sure what you’re complaining about. As a longtime Bills fan, I’d love to see AJ playing against SF this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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