Wacka Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 They are all aligned with the commies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: yes. things like 9/11, weather underground bombings were more severe forms of terrorism. the definition of terrorism is using fear, violence or the threat of violence for political gain or change. it fit. And a bit of irony as the same groups and pople that did the BLM riots. are these folks. they just are wearing the Palestinian scarf. It's the same paid group of professional protesters employed by the party that gets flown in and bused to the site dressed in the proper attire for the occasion. I expect they'll try to screw up New Years Eve events as their next act. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: yes. things like 9/11, weather underground bombings were more severe forms of terrorism. the definition of terrorism is using fear, violence or the threat of violence for political gain or change. it fit. And a bit of irony as the same groups and pople that did the BLM riots. are these folks. they just are wearing the Palestinian scarf. Bullshite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 21 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: And a bit of irony as the same groups and people that did the BLM riots. are these folks. they just are wearing the Palestinian scarf. Same ones who are no doubt already planning their societal obstruction, and worse, when Trump wins his 1st caucus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Biden and his buddies have manufactured this mess. Totally lost control of a once great country. Time for a ***** change from these ***** idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 First time this has happened. US F-18s from Eisenhower successfully shot down 12 Houthi drones yesterday in the Red Sea. It is really time to go on the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 South Africa has no love for Israel, that goes back to Apartheid days https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/01/02/world/israel-supreme-court-gaza-news Israel said it would appear before the International Court of Justice in The Hague to defend itself against accusations of genocide filed by South Africa. Eylon Levy, a government spokesman, accused South Africa of aligning itself with Hamas and of being complicit in its crimes. South Africa, which has asked the U.N. court to halt the fighting in Gaza, has been among the most vocal critics of Israel since the war began. **** The Israeli military confirmed that it had begun withdrawing some soldiers from Gaza, part of a planned pullout of roughly five brigades from the enclave. It did not give additional details. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Biden and his buddies can’t figure out what to do. Complete and absolute failure. If they knew what they were doing and not focusing on 9th month abortions and Larry’s “access to reproductive rights” this war would never have happened. What a mess. Edited January 2 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Irv said: Biden and his buddies can’t figure out what to do. Complete and absolute failure. If they knew what they were doing and not focusing on 9th month abortions and Larry’s “access to reproductive rights” this war would never have happened. What a mess. A major problem is Biden is such a weak leader that its crystal clear that Israel has more influence over US policy than the US has over Israel. The rest of the world sees it, our friends, our enemies, and those that remain neutral over the conflict. Some conclude US forces in the region are an extension of the Israeli military. And while its clear we should be backing Israel, our government needs to demonstrate some degree of independence and objectivity. The old Captain is asleep at the wheel once again. Edited January 2 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I don't think it's a problem that the US' has less influence over Israeli policy. I think having less US influence, which is largely driven by the US political environment, is actually more likely to end this. Israel is not the US' family pet. They are a sovereign nation surrounded by enemies that want them destroyed. They should do what they need to do, much the same as any country would, removed from wacky American election year politics. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 Well, one way or another, there will be an investigation on the "security failure." Is not even having any plan at all a "failure"? Or just part of the plan? Lawyers representing survivors from the Tribe of Nova trance music festival, one of the first targets for Hamas militants during the Oct. 7 attack, submitted a lawsuit Monday against Israel’s security agencies, accusing them of “negligence and omissions.” The lawsuit, submitted to the Tel Aviv district court, seeks about $55 million in compensation from the Israel Defense Forces, domestic security agency Shin Bet and the Israeli police, and it was signed by 42 plaintiffs, consisting of survivors of the festival who were mentally or physically injured in the attack or relatives of victims who were killed. According to attorneys Anat Ginzburg and Gilad Ginzburg, it is the largest tort lawsuit ever filed in Israel against the state. The lawsuit, which remains confidential, was accompanied by opinions from psychiatrists on the damage caused to the plaintiffs by the attack. “All the defendants had to do was to make a phone call to the responsible parties on their behalf for them to disperse the party given the warnings received on the night between 6/10/23 - 7/10/23,” the lawsuit stated. According to the lawsuit, the request for approval of the party at a parking lot near the Gaza border was submitted about three months before the event. Senior officers in the Gaza Division expressed security concerns about holding a mass party near the border, but despite this, the event was approved, the lawsuit added. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/02/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-updates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 ---- Nice video of child in Gaza doing reporrting https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/12/31/gaza-nine-year-old-journalist-contd-sn-cn-orig.cnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Well, one way or another, there will be an investigation on the "security failure." Is not even having any plan at all a "failure"? Or just part of the plan? Lawyers representing survivors from the Tribe of Nova trance music festival, one of the first targets for Hamas militants during the Oct. 7 attack, submitted a lawsuit Monday against Israel’s security agencies, accusing them of “negligence and omissions.” Senseless. We should sue the victims of a terrorist attack because they should have known better? Can't wait for the victims and Hawaiian inhabitants to sue the US over Dec 7 1941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: Senseless. We should sue the victims of a terrorist attack because they should have known better? Can't wait for the victims and Hawaiian inhabitants to sue the US over Dec 7 1941. That's for the courts to decide. They did believe they were protected, when they were not. Someone needs to be held accountable. Does seem strange though, a group dedicated to killing every last Jew was just not even taken as a serious threat. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Does seem strange though, a group dedicated to killing every last Jew was just not even taken as a serious threat. Very strange. That group has existed for years, as have others with similar goals. You have posted a bunch on this, and never seem to have any knowledge of how Israel has defended itself. You do nothing but literally post Monday morning thoughts, void of what they do. No acknowledgement of what is involved. Ignorant and pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 53 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's for the courts to decide. They did believe they were protected, when they were not. Someone needs to be held accountable. Does seem strange though, a group dedicated to killing every last Jew was just not even taken as a serious threat. Very strange. On this, Israel agrees with you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The IDF has entered my village in the West Bank. It’s a very peaceful village. Most ppl there are well off. I’m worried. No reason for them to be there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, Justice said: The IDF has entered my village in the West Bank. It’s a very peaceful village. Most ppl there are well off. I’m worried. No reason for them to be there. I pray that no one will be hurt. Stay safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 27 minutes ago, Justice said: The IDF has entered my village in the West Bank. It’s a very peaceful village. Most ppl there are well off. I’m worried. No reason for them to be there. If there's nothing to set off the IDF, they should be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Doc said: If there's nothing to set off the IDF, they should be fine. I can’t share the photo here because it’s too big a file but the soldier posted on Facebook “if not Gaza then mizraa”. Sounds like a threat to me. He since took his post down. His name is Roi Shaag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Why Are Leftists Hot for Houthis? TIM BLACK The Houthis’ attacks might not have had a significant military impact so far, but they have severely disrupted global trade. More strikingly, they have slowly started to thrill some Western leftists. After news broke that the Houthis had seized an Israeli-linked ship in early December, socialist magazine Jacobin painted the Houthis as an honourable anti-imperialist resistance movement. ‘They felt obliged to act’, it opined, ‘because of the strong, historically rooted support for Palestinians among the Yemeni people’. Since then, the Houthi cheerleading among the left has only become louder. https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/02/why-are-leftists-hot-for-the-houthis/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 hours ago, B-Man said: Why Are Leftists Hot for Houthis? TIM BLACK The Houthis’ attacks might not have had a significant military impact so far, but they have severely disrupted global trade. More strikingly, they have slowly started to thrill some Western leftists. After news broke that the Houthis had seized an Israeli-linked ship in early December, socialist magazine Jacobin painted the Houthis as an honourable anti-imperialist resistance movement. ‘They felt obliged to act’, it opined, ‘because of the strong, historically rooted support for Palestinians among the Yemeni people’. Since then, the Houthi cheerleading among the left has only become louder. https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/02/why-are-leftists-hot-for-the-houthis/ . They're anarchists that support anything that provides them a chance to commit acts of violence, start fires, disrupt the activity of normal citizens, break stuff, and generally create chaos. It doesn't matter that the terrorists they support would kill them all at the first chance they got. Reality and rational thinking are not in their toolbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 16 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: On this, Israel agrees with you. But Israel does not agree on who is responsible for leaving border basically wide open 16 hours ago, sherpa said: That group has existed for years, as have others with similar goals. You have posted a bunch on this, and never seem to have any knowledge of how Israel has defended itself. You do nothing but literally post Monday morning thoughts, void of what they do. No acknowledgement of what is involved. Ignorant and pathetic. Sure, you just want to give those responsible for ignoring a serious problem a pass. Glad there is a court case to start the investigation. Nice to see Netandyahoo lose in the supreme court of Israel, also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Iranian state media says two explosions have struck a procession marking the anniversary of General Qassem Soleimani’s assassination. The blasts reportedly happened near the slain commander’s grave site in the city of Kerman. A correspondent with Iranian state-run Tasnim has said that the mounting casualty count is "high". "There is a strong chance that more 50 people have lost their lives and 50-60 have been injured." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Iranian state media says two explosions have struck a procession marking the anniversary of General Qassem Soleimani’s assassination. The blasts reportedly happened near the slain commander’s grave site in the city of Kerman. A correspondent with Iranian state-run Tasnim has said that the mounting casualty count is "high". "There is a strong chance that more 50 people have lost their lives and 50-60 have been injured." Sounds like an explosive situation! Israel hitting them back for Oct 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sounds like an explosive situation! Israel hitting them back for Oct 7? Good lord you're a *****in idiot. And most likely not Isrealis. Probably some whacko Sunnis. They seems to enjoy bombs in crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, yall said: Good lord you're a *****in idiot. And most likely not Isrealis. Probably some whacko Sunnis. They seems to enjoy bombs in crowds. Oh, and Israel doesn't? What, you sniffing glue or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, and Israel doesn't? What, you sniffing glue or something? Where is DC tom when you need him. No Israel doesn't have a history of setting off bombs in crowds of civilians. Keep eating up that Islamist propaganda and thinking this is some both sides/moral equivalence bull####. It's the west vs. religious fundamentalists whose very texts are codified to support killing all non-believers, especially Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, yall said: Where is DC tom when you need him. No Israel doesn't have a history of setting off bombs in crowds of civilians. Keep eating up that Islamist propaganda and thinking this is some both sides/moral equivalence bull####. It's the west vs. religious fundamentalists whose very texts are codified to support killing all non-believers, especially Jews. Like how you admit you need help. DC Tom couldn't help you though, he's an idiot. Israel drops their bombs from planes, mostly, and you see that as different, right? Bombing a crowded refugee camp still causes mass casualties of civilians. I guess all those deaths in Gaza just happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, Tiberius said: Like how you admit you need help. DC Tom couldn't help you though, he's an idiot. Israel drops their bombs from planes, mostly, and you see that as different, right? Bombing a crowded refugee camp still causes mass casualties of civilians. I guess all those deaths in Gaza just happened I absolutely see it differently because those refugee camps are full of would-be terrorists. The price they pay for being partisans in their jihad against non-believers. Don't wanna get bombed? Don't willingly allow yourself to be a human shield for murderers. Aside from the children, a good portion are complicit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, yall said: I absolutely see it differently because those refugee camps are full of would-be terrorists. The price they pay for being partisans in their jihad against non-believers. Don't wanna get bombed? Don't willingly allow yourself to be a human shield for murderers. Aside from the children, a good portion are complicit. So its ok when Israel does it. Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, yall said: Where is DC tom when you need him. No Israel doesn't have a history of setting off bombs in crowds of civilians. Keep eating up that Islamist propaganda and thinking this is some both sides/moral equivalence bull####. It's the west vs. religious fundamentalists whose very texts are codified to support killing all non-believers, especially Jews. 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Like how you admit you need help. DC Tom couldn't help you though, he's an idiot. Israel drops their bombs from planes, mostly, and you see that as different, right? Bombing a crowded refugee camp still causes mass casualties of civilians. I guess all those deaths in Gaza just happened Given this was a high-level ceremony marking the death and honoring a revered General my expectation is this wasn't a "civilian" crowd but rather a group of officials, ranking members of the military and civilian government in attendance of "high" value that could be taken out in one place at one time. The initial suspicion is Mossad. Iran has made the usual threats of vengeance which they usually fail to carry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Given this was a high-level ceremony marking the death and honoring a revered General my expectation is this wasn't a "civilian" crowd but rather a group of officials, ranking members of the military and civilian government in attendance of "high" value that could be taken out in one place at one time. The initial suspicion is Mossad. Iran has made the usual threats of vengeance which they usually fail to carry out. Children were among the casualties of this terrorist attack, so let's not clean it up as if its some sort of military target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So its ok when Israel does it. Brilliant Specifically targeting civilians is a far cry from collateral damage, yes. That you don't get it, isn't terribly surprising to anyone. 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Given this was a high-level ceremony marking the death and honoring a revered General my expectation is this wasn't a "civilian" crowd but rather a group of officials, ranking members of the military and civilian government in attendance of "high" value that could be taken out in one place at one time. The initial suspicion is Mossad. Iran has made the usual threats of vengeance which they usually fail to carry out. I wouldn't rule it out, but that isn't generally Mossads MO (assuming it was a suicide bomber at this point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, yall said: Specifically targeting civilians is a far cry from collateral damage, yes. That you don't get it, isn't terribly surprising to anyone. I wouldn't rule it out, but that isn't generally Mossads MO (assuming it was a suicide bomber at this point). Reports said there were 2 explosions which implies 2 bombers which implies planning and coordination of some degree along with the ability to elude and pass through what I'd expect was some security measures at the site (if there were none then they must be really stupid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Reports said there were 2 explosions which implies 2 bombers which implies planning and coordination of some degree along with the ability to elude and pass through what I'd expect was some security measures at the site (if there were none then they must be really stupid). Two is a common tactic amongst terrorists though. The second explosion usually is to target emergency services/first responders. Too soon to jump to conclusions obviously, but my money is on some rebel types. This would be particularly bad if it turns out it's the Isrealis and frankly would be surrendering quite a bit of moral high ground on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a statement blaming the attack on Iran’s “malicious and criminal enemies,” but stopped short of naming any group or country. Mr. Khamenei vowed that Iran’s enemies should know that “this tragedy will have a strong response.” While no group has claimed responsibility for the attack, Iran’s president, Ebrahim Raisi, seemed to blame the country’s archrivals, the United States and Israel. “We tell the criminal America and Zionist regime that you will pay a very high price for the crimes you have committed and will regret it,” he said. Analysts said that while it was far too soon to tell, there were numerous possibilities for who might have attacked the cemetery, including Sunni Muslim terrorist organizations such as the Islamic State or Iranian separatist groups, all of whom have struck Iranian civilians in the past. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/world/middleeast/iran-explosion-qassim-suleimani-ceremony.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a statement blaming the attack on Iran’s “malicious and criminal enemies,” but stopped short of naming any group or country. Mr. Khamenei vowed that Iran’s enemies should know that “this tragedy will have a strong response.” While no group has claimed responsibility for the attack, Iran’s president, Ebrahim Raisi, seemed to blame the country’s archrivals, the United States and Israel. “We tell the criminal America and Zionist regime that you will pay a very high price for the crimes you have committed and will regret it,” he said. Analysts said that while it was far too soon to tell, there were numerous possibilities for who might have attacked the cemetery, including Sunni Muslim terrorist organizations such as the Islamic State or Iranian separatist groups, all of whom have struck Iranian civilians in the past. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/world/middleeast/iran-explosion-qassim-suleimani-ceremony.html Eff the Iranian government and it's terrorist proxies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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