peterpan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: On the long Breece Hall run from their 3 yard line... Tre came in and whiffed. Absolutely missed on the tackle. Boom - 3 points for the Jets. Look at the DL pre snap on this play. They were totally out of alignment. The DE needed to widen out two gaps to be in a proper position, but didn’t. The OL was able to down block and collapse the entire DL out of the whole with an extra two blockers free. The LBs were swamped out of position too. Tre could have made a very tough tackle coming down from his CB spot but, that play was hardly his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’m not as worried about Tre. He defended the pass, lucky bounce. He’s never been a great run stopper. Of you want something to be irritated about, that second year first round corner getting the Aaron Maybiin healthy scratch treatment?? I'm glad he was. Benford actually played well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: I agree 100% - The D played very good. Just not Tre. And trust me.. teams will attack him. He's that bad. Mark it. I do not trust you. At all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Tre is the least of our problems. Bernard will likely be replaced in a week or two. Von will be coming back. Defense is not an issue right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It saddens me greatly to agree with the OP, but White hasnt even been a shadow of his old self. The injury has reduced him from being a pro bowler to average DB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: What we don't see, or have stats on, is how many times was Jets QB Wilson unable to throw to Wilson because of good defending on Tre's behalf? jets Offense was kept to 22 points, which includes OT. I'd say D played pretty well. 16 points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 16 points The Jets scored 22 points. EDIT: AHH i see what you did there.. True. Edited September 12, 2023 by Blackbeard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Blackbeard said: The Jets scored 22 points. right; but 6 were purely their special teams (the game-winning punt return), and had nothing to do w/ their offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, RiotAct said: 16 points If you're just considering what the defense gave up, I'd even drop that to 13 considering Allen dropped that snap on his own 20. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: OK - Last night sucked. Full stop. Bad play calling, Josh playing like sugar-rush-Josh. But can we please discuss the Tre White comedy act? He cost us this game just as much as Josh. On the long Breece Hall run from their 3 yard line... Tre came in and whiffed. Absolutely missed on the tackle. Boom - 3 points for the Jets. Third and long,Bills up 13-3. Tre, again, whiffed on the tackle behind the line. First down. Eventual FG. Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always. The dude is the weakest link on a very good D. I know you all love him... "Pro bowler blah blah". He is weak and plays like a civ. Teams will attack him. "Civ"? Short for "civilian "? Maybe you mean "sieve"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Why are we depending on corners to make tackles at the LOS and not our MLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 48 minutes ago, Simon said: His primary job on that play was to keep the play inside, which he did. Bernard and Poyer were the culprits on that one, imo. Yeah, a miracle bounce on a ball he defended means White sucks. His run support is where folks (many) seem to have issue with. Tre displayed some poor/weak tackling and what appears he doesn’t want to get physical. 54 minutes ago, boyst said: Hahahaha. No. He played very well and had poor tackling That’s the benchmark 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, billsfan_34 said: His run support is where folks (many) seem to have issue with. Tre displayed some poor/weak tackling and what appears he doesn’t want to get physical. He absolutely 100% had to maintain outside contain on that big run. That puts him at a huge disadvantage as far as coming in to make a tackle. He cannot commit himself fully to attacking the ballcarrier because his primary (and only real) responsibility is to force that player inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: His run support is where folks (many) seem to have issue with. Tre displayed some poor/weak tackling and what appears he doesn’t want to get physical. That’s the benchmark 😂 He’s a 176 lbs cb. Do people know what a cb is supposed to do? Research Deion Sanders tackling for reference. he gave up 34 yards to guy who is going to be a top 10 receiver, on a defense that gave up 140 yards passing. This is insane!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Why are we depending on corners to make tackles at the LOS and not our MLB? It's the play design. They were putting 2-3 TEs in as blockers on rushing plays to eat up the LB. That forces DBs to tackle Breece Hall one on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said: It's the play design. They were putting 2-3 TEs in as blockers on rushing plays to eat up the LB. That forces DBs to tackle Breece Hall one on one. Okay. Well the defense gave up 16 points last night. Not sure how Tre White is even coming up. What are we going to do? Bench him and start Elam? Start Dane Jackson over him? Tre White isn't great anymore, but he's not the biggest problem on this defense. We have a 6'0" 223 pound MLB right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 You think he “got burned” on the TD? Rofl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I’ll throw one more coin in the “he sucked at tackling but was good in coverage and yes that includes the Wilson TD” bucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: Okay. Well the defense gave up 16 points last night. Not sure how Tre White is even coming up. What are we going to do? Bench him and start Elam? Start Dane Jackson over him? Tre White isn't great anymore, but he's not the biggest problem on this defense. We have a 6'0" 223 pound MLB right now. I'm not complaining about Tre at all. The OP has some sort of weird obsession with him. If the Jets can get Breece Hall one on one with any CB, Hall will win that battle 8 times out of 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s a 176 lbs cb. Do people know what a cb is supposed to do? Research Deion Sanders tackling for reference. he gave up 34 yards to guy who is going to be a top 10 receiver, on a defense that gave up 140 yards passing. This is insane!!! Yeah we know- still gotta tackle. Its football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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