Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/103626/2023-dvoa-projections Quote Dallas, which had the highest mean win projection in the FTN Football Almanac, has also now passed Buffalo to have the highest DVOA projection for the regular season. (If you're worried about what the Cowboys have done in the playoffs the last two years, remember, these projections are for the regular season only.) However, there's a very clear gap between the two conferences. You'll notice on the table below that 8 of the top 11 teams in projected DVOA come from the AFC. There are going to be some very good AFC teams missing the playoffs this year, with inferior NFC teams making it to the postseason instead. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said: https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/103626/2023-dvoa-projections Then it says Dallas has the highest chance at the Superbowl at 15 percent to KCs 10% and Buff basically 10%. So I would say they think Dallas is going to get past their playoff futility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said: https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/103626/2023-dvoa-projections Thanks for posting this. So Schatz is on this website now. Did Football Outsiders shut down when he left? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Can we just request a bye until the playoffs now? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Can we just request a bye until the playoffs now? Can we just get the season started and put the stench of that Bengals game behind us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Interesting that this picks the Brown to win their division, with the Bengals and Ravens in as WCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The Cardinals and Texans have the highest odds of finishing with the worst record. The Cardinals have both teams first round pick next year. They may get Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr.. That should be illegal. WTF were the Texans thinking in trading up for Will Anderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: Then it says Dallas has the highest chance at the Superbowl at 15 percent to KCs 10% and Buff basically 10%. So I would say they think Dallas is going to get past their playoff futility. If Dak shows up , they're a really tough team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Can we just get the season started and put the stench of that Bengals game behind us. That will go away only when the Bills beat the Bengals in November! 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: If Dak shows up , they're a really tough team Dak has always showed up. It is the team around him that has failed him at critical times. Somewhat similar to what Allen is going through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 7 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: Then it says Dallas has the highest chance at the Superbowl at 15 percent to KCs 10% and Buff basically 10%. So I would say they think Dallas is going to get past their playoff futility. C’mon, we know that if the Bills make it to the Super Bowl, the opponent will be Philadelphia to complete the NFC East set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: The Cardinals and Texans have the highest odds of finishing with the worst record. The Cardinals have both teams first round pick next year. They may get Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr.. That should be illegal. WTF were the Texans thinking in trading up for Will Anderson? No guarantees that Caleb or Jr. Come out this year and an above average pass rusher is worth more than a WR. See Bruce Smith vs Andre Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: No guarantees that Caleb or Jr. Come out this year and an above average pass rusher is worth more than a WR. See Bruce Smith vs Andre Reed. Woah.. the Bruce Smith version of a wr is Jerry Rice or Calvin Johnson, not Andre Reed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 hours ago, JerseyBills said: If Dak shows up , they're a really tough team I agree, I was more responding to the OP saying these are really for regular season, but perhaps he is talking about the DVOA statistics themselves and not the Superbowl odds. 2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: C’mon, we know that if the Bills make it to the Super Bowl, the opponent will be Philadelphia to complete the NFC East set. That'd be a hell of a Superbowl! 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 WHAT?!? A national sports periodical that doesn’t crap on the Bills??😯 They must not have gotten the memo🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) That’s pretty funny timing…I just saw a video of mike florio saying we could finish last in the division to be fair everyone said the rest of the division caught up to the chiefs last year and they won the superbowl soooo 😂 Edited September 7, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 11 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Thanks for posting this. So Schatz is on this website now. Did Football Outsiders shut down when he left? RIP Football Outsiders. They were acquired by a gambling company last year and it stopped paying all of the writers and now the site is gone. Really a shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I have Dallas coming out of the NFC in all of my prediction games at work, with friends etc. I think Parsons is primed for a historic year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Woah.. the Bruce Smith version of a wr is Jerry Rice or Calvin Johnson, not Andre Reed. My point being that an impactful DE/pass rush is worth more than an impactful WR, that's why Arizona made the trade. You mentioned Calvin Johnson, as great as he was he never went far in Detroit, Rice won Super Bowls but those 80s 49er teams were loaded, Charles Haley being a great pass rusher for them and eventually getting Richard Dent etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Thanks for posting this. So Schatz is on this website now. Did Football Outsiders shut down when he left? Holy crow! 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: RIP Football Outsiders. They were acquired by a gambling company last year and it stopped paying all of the writers and now the site is gone. Really a shame. Oh, what a drag! Good site. Edited September 7, 2023 by Thurman#1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 7 hours ago, The Jokeman said: My point being that an impactful DE/pass rush is worth more than an impactful WR, that's why Arizona made the trade. You mentioned Calvin Johnson, as great as he was he never went far in Detroit, Rice won Super Bowls but those 80s 49er teams were loaded, Charles Haley being a great pass rusher for them and eventually getting Richard Dent etc. and my point is magnitude matters. I’d take Justin Jefferson over Von Miller any day, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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