JPPT1974 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 It seems it is the beginning of the end for the BB era in New England. His coaching methods seem to be outdated for a better sense of the word. It may have worked with Brady but not so with Jones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 20 hours ago, steven50 said: The difference is those were players stepping into a winning team, with a winning attitude, with opposition that was terrified of those NE teams. NE is no longer a world beater that other teams fear and the winning locker room attitude and swagger left with Brady. The Bill Belicheck mystic is gone they are just any middle of the pack team now. No one except bottom feeders would pencil in a Patriots game as a definite loss at the beginning of the season. They wont sniff playoffs this year, 6, 7 or 8 wins at most this year. Might be a lot worse. Most have the floor at 7 and the high at 9. If the O plays well they could go IMO of course 10-7… like anything else anything can happen that’s why you play the games. As for the other QBs I would say they won because they had competent OC, I would dare say last year with O’Brian or McD they win 10 or 11 games.. last year the fact they won 8 was mind boggling.. the O was pop Warner level bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Is McDermott on the hot seat yet? Bet he gets fired before Belichick. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Is McDermott on the hot seat yet? Bet he gets fired before Belichick. Yes because pre-season means anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Yes because pre-season means anything. It’s not about preseason. Years of horrible game plans and bad in game mgmt. it’s going to be painfully obvious this year to all the believers. When the franchise extended McDermott and beane a few weeks ago it, this franchise sealed its’ grave for the foreseeable future. Edited August 19, 2023 by Rocbillsfan1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: It’s not about preseason. Years of horrible game plans and bad in game mgmt. it’s going to be painfully obvious this year to all the believers. When the franchise extended McDermott and beane a few weeks ago it, this franchise sealed its’ grave for the foreseeable future. Right and they've made the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years and won the AFCE all the past 3 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Doc you are in full on denial if you cannot see mcdermotts’ glaring inadequacies. We had daboll and Frazier 2 respected coaches running the show. Now we have clown show McDermott and Dorsey leading the charge, while Beane still thinks his draft pick Spencer Brown belongs in the NFL. Straight up wasting Josh Allen’s career here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Doc you are in full on denial if you cannot see mcdermotts’ glaring inadequacies. We had daboll and Frazier 2 respected coaches running the show. Now we have clown show McDermott and Dorsey leading the charge, while Beane still thinks his draft pick Spencer Brown belongs in the NFL. Straight up wasting Josh Allen’s career here. When the team fails to make the playoffs, I'll listen to who this surefire replacement is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Why do I have the feeling that you will find a way to excuse McDermott and beane if we don’t make the playoffs this year? Beane now has had a lot of subpar drafts although he hit the grand slam with Allen. Almost all of his other picks in rounds 1-3 have been average at best to total busts. I’m holding out for hope for Kincaid and Torrence who I both liked. Paying Knox and Oliver all that money was extremely questionable. While trading for diggs worked we could have had Jefferson on a rookie contract for a few years. people are wondering why diggs is mad, isn’t it pretty obvious? This team has been underachieving and now looks like it’s now on the downtrend. Edited August 20, 2023 by Rocbillsfan1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 8:22 AM, PatsFanNH said: I disagree. I think like everyone else now in his 70’s he has slowed down and well perhaps the game passed him by a bit. But his body of work shows he is the GOAT IMO of course. And you're entitled to that belief. You're a Pats fan, so that's to be expected. I just don't agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: Yes because pre-season means anything. Pre-season is leading cause of insanity. If only they caused a disease which made people unable to type instead. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Why do I have the feeling that you will find a way to excuse McDermott and beane if we don’t make the playoffs this year? Beane now has had a lot of subpar drafts although he hit the grand slam with Allen. Almost all of his other picks in rounds 1-3 have been average at best to total busts. I’m holding out for hope for Kincaid and Torrence who I both liked. Paying Knox and Oliver all that money was extremely questionable. While trading for diggs worked we could have had Jefferson on a rookie contract for a few years. people are wondering why diggs is mad, isn’t it pretty obvious? This team has been underachieving and now looks like it’s now on the downtrend. Outside of Josh missing significant time, there is no excuse for missing the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 5:22 AM, PatsFanNH said: I disagree. I think like everyone else now in his 70’s he has slowed down and well perhaps the game passed him by a bit. But his body of work shows he is the GOAT IMO of course. Reid could catch Bill for that GOAT title if he can hang on another 5 years and maybe get two more Super Bowl wins in that time frame. Reid has shown a greater ability IMO to succeed at a high level on multiple teams and with just about any QB you give him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Riv Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 4:12 PM, FilthyBeast said: BB is 71 and Andy Reid is 65. This is something lost in the current discussion about Mahomes/Reid catching BB/Brady, in other words it's not happening at least not Mahomes and Reid together. Also why I think the Mahomes hype will have to slow down at some point because he's not going to have Kelce/Reid/Chris Jones together with him his entire career or much longer for that matter. All true, but if Hoodie retires and Reid is less than 55 wins behind.... That might be possible in 4 seasons. Reid is not the picture of physical health though, I don't think he'll catch BB, but that will likely dominate the headlines every time the Chiefs win. Once Reid leaves, Mahomes might come back down to Earth and prove mortal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Here we are at the end of Week 18 and it looks like Bill's seat is on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Inigo Montoya said: Here we are at the end of Week 18 and it looks like Bill's seat is on fire. He's used to it. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 8/21/2023 at 8:44 AM, P Riv said: All true, but if Hoodie retires and Reid is less than 55 wins behind.... That might be possible in 4 seasons. Reid is not the picture of physical health though, I don't think he'll catch BB, but that will likely dominate the headlines every time the Chiefs win. Once Reid leaves, Mahomes might come back down to Earth and prove mortal. I can't see Reid retiring. Hell never be in a better spot, so last thing he would want is to retire then look to unretire in a year or two. I think he coaches a handful more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: I can't see Reid retiring. Hell never be in a better spot, so last thing he would want is to retire then look to unretire in a year or two. I think he coaches a handful more years. Cheeseburgers don’t just buy themselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 It will be the end of an era if Belichick leaves. Belichick and Brady were deadly together and it was a good day when Brady walked out of Foxborough. The BIlls should be able to run the division with JA17 for another decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: It will be the end of an era if Belichick leaves. Belichick and Brady were deadly together and it was a good day when Brady walked out of Foxborough. The BIlls should be able to run the division with JA17 for another decade. There are rumors of a Belichick/Raiders matchup. That would be a huge score for the Raiders IF Belichick isn't the GM. Any team that takes Belichick as a GM is doomed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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