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10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I mean yes, but during the days when the Bills WR were John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Isaiah McKenzie, physical press man teams just mugged them in press man, and took them away.   A small guy can play bigger than his size, and a big guy won't necessarily play physically enough, but other things being equal, size does matter.***

 

***obligatory "That's What She Said"

Have heard Harty has a good release package (which aligns with this production on the outside in NO).  So yes all things equal (including release package) size matters, but Harty doesnt come in equal it appears.  

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

He’s been a JAG the entirety of his career… why all of a sudden will that change now? 
 

All good though. People fall for this stuff every May/June/July/August and reality hits in September.

Maybe different definitions of JAGs?  Sherfield has been a rosterable player for years (never been cut) but hasnt been a game changer.  If thats a JAG for you then I agree.  I dont consider that a JAG and I dont think these reports are pumping him up to be the next Diggs but rather looking to be another weapon.

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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

Maybe Benford is just the real deal.  
 

I still believe it’s the tackling that separates him from Elam - at the moment.  
 

But it’s possible he’s just a better corner.   

 

I think if you could combine Benford and Elam you'd have a heckuva player. 

 

Elam is still getting "lost in space" in zone coverage.  He's still thinking about it and not just see-and-react, it makes him a step slow.  He can man up though.

 

Benford has the zone coverage down.  He understands what he's supposed to do and when and why.  He's got "zone eyes" (so does Dane).  But he's not gonna win against the top receivers in man coverage.

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14 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Elam is “clearly” better?  I think Benford might have something to say about this competition before it’s said and done. He missed a lot of time last year and also some good development opportunities. At this point, it completely reasonable that benford might be better than Elam. 

I thought Elam played better last year. Definitely made bigger plays to help this team out. Benford seen action in about 10 games and started over half. He seen the field more but never made as many stand out plays. 

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2 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Have heard Harty has a good release package (which aligns with this production on the outside in NO).  So yes all things equal (including release package) size matters, but Harty doesnt come in equal it appears. 

 

I hope you're right, and certainly the contract the Bills offered him makes it clear they think he's got more to offer there than McKenzie did.

 

But the problem we've historically faced with smurf players who have better skills than most opponents, is that when it comes to playoff football where the refs put their whistles away and "let the players play" (aka let the DBs mug the WR) they get neutralized.

 

2 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Maybe different definitions of JAGs?  Sherfield has been a rosterable player for years (never been cut) but hasnt been a game changer.  If thats a JAG for you then I agree.  I dont consider that a JAG and I dont think these reports are pumping him up to be the next Diggs but rather looking to be another weapon.

 

Early reports are that Sherfield is playing gunner on ST opposite Neal.   The question with Sherfield isn't "is he a game changer on offense?" but "has he shown himself to be a better offensive contributor - a better WR - than Kumerow was?"

 

The answer is pretty clearly "yes. Yes, he has."

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10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think if you could combine Benford and Elam you'd have a heckuva player. 

 

Elam is still getting "lost in space" in zone coverage.  He's still thinking about it and not just see-and-react, it makes him a step slow.  He can man up though.

 

Benford has the zone coverage down.  He understands what he's supposed to do and when and why.  He's got "zone eyes" (so does Dane).  But he's not gonna win against the top receivers in man coverage.

Excellent observations. The NFL is a matchup league. There will be times this year that having a guy like Elam will be beneficial. We have 2 games against Tyreek and Waddle and 2 games against Garrett Wilson. Allows the Bills to press a guy like Hill or Waddle and take them off their route, which was proven to be an Achilles heel to the Dolphin offense at times last year. 

 

Elam may win a starting spot or he may not...but I think he'll provide some plays when needed.

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5 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

Knox n Kincaid could be absolutely lethal.  Best duo since Gronk n Hernandez. 

The versatility n dimension this adds to our O is unreal. Can't believe we got Kincaid . Beane musta had a hard on when the trade went through

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32 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

 

 

Are you okay?  🤣

Evidently not 🤣

 

I have no idea how this happened, 

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