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11 minutes ago, teef said:

says the guy who was convinced there was a CIA level cover up at OBD yesterday.

 

I honestly think he should change his name to Rocky.  He's definitely relentless.  Gets lit up yesterday, comes right back this morning.

I see this GIF in my head every time I see him post now.  Just keeps coming!

 

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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I honestly think he should change his name to Rocky.  He's definitely relentless.  Gets lit up yesterday, comes right back this morning.

I see this GIF in my head every time I see him post now.  Just keeps coming!

 

When a fool argues with an expert, they often think the expert is getting lit up.

 

I am used to being the expert.

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18 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The Daboll information was sent to Flores before the Giants ever interviewed Daboll.

 

So in your mind, the Giants had already decided they wanted to hire Daboll before ever interviewing him, and therefore decided to conduct a sham interview with Flores, and part of their scheme to conduct this sham interview with Flores, they pretended that Daboll (who they already decided to hire before ever interviewing him) would be open to making a lateral move that he wasn't actually willing to make?

 

That makes sense to you?

 

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I'm too lazy to dig up all this times in the past few seasons that McD said we need more balance, he talked to Daboll etc over the years. It was perfectly apparent that they didn't see eye to eye and had different visions of the offense. I am sure of some searched this board there will be plenty of topics oflver the past couple years on it. 

 

It certainly did feel like at some point Daboll was leaving for an HC job or even when his contract expired. I suppose it even could have been Frazier like and stepping away. 

 

Equating unhappiness in your job in real industries and having it known vs in a professional league with a handful of people, word travels fast. I'm fairly certain most assistants and most coordinators know who is happy and who is not. Just like teams know which UFAs are leaving and which will re-sign with their team. 

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1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

I'm too lazy to dig up all this times in the past few seasons that McD said we need more balance, he talked to Daboll etc over the years. It was perfectly apparent that they didn't see eye to eye and had different visions of the offense. I am sure of some searched this board there will be plenty of topics oflver the past couple years on it. 

 

It certainly did feel like at some point Daboll was leaving for an HC job or even when his contract expired. I suppose it even could have been Frazier like and stepping away. . 

 

Yeah I mean the writing was on the wall and it was pretty obvious. I have no idea why certain posters are arguing this point.

 

The leaked text from the Giants director of player personnel was just icing on the cake.

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18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I honestly think he should change his name to Rocky.  He's definitely relentless.  Gets lit up yesterday, comes right back this morning.

I see this GIF in my head every time I see him post now.  Just keeps coming!

 

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will you be my apollo creed?

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12 minutes ago, Einstein said:

The Daboll information was sent to Flores before the Giants ever interviewed Daboll.

 

So in your mind, the Giants had already decided they wanted to hire Daboll before ever interviewing him, and therefore decided to conduct a sham interview with Flores, and part of their scheme to conduct this sham interview with Flores, they pretended that Daboll (who they already decided to hire before ever interviewing him) would be open to making a lateral move that he wasn't actually willing to make?

 

That makes sense to you?

 

LOL!  You know that former Bills AGM Joe Schoen was hired as the Giants' GM and Daboll was always going to be the HC, right?

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2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  You know that former Bills AGM Joe Schoen was hired as the Giants' GM and Daboll was always going to be the HC, right?

It was done before the KC game.  Daboll left work early (I believe) the day Schoen was hired to smoke cigars to celebrate. 

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1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

not sure what/why all the talk about daboll to giants.

 

 Anyway, why did the Bills cancel day 3 of mandatory camp??! 

Because they felt like it.  Happens often around the league.  Jets canceled the full week.

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5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  You know that former Bills AGM Joe Schoen was hired as the Giants' GM and Daboll was always going to be the HC, right?

 

Schoen was hired by the Giants as GM, weeks after the text message about Daboll wanting to leave Buffalo.

 

Again, the timeline doesnt fit.

 

What fits is what @Reed83HOF said. Daboll wanted away from McD. It wasn't a secret.

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4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Yeah I mean the writing was on the wall and it was pretty obvious. I have no idea why certain posters are arguing this point.

 

The leaked text from the Giants director of player personnel was just icing on the cake.

That certainly increased the odds to signs pointing he was on his way out. It is also very unlikely that the person from the Giants was the only one who knew this. A reasonable assumption is that it was widely known in league circles. 

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4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

It was done before the KC game.  Daboll left work early (I believe) the day Schoen was hired to smoke cigars to celebrate. 

 

That timeline makes sense.

 

The info about Daboll wanting to leave McDermott (even in a lateral move) was shared on Jan 11.  Schoen didnt even have his 1st interview with the Giants until AFTER that.

 

@Doc's theory is that the Giants had already decided they wanted to hire Schoen (before ever interviewing him), and Schoen gave them information that he wanted Daboll (before ever interviewing him) and therefore decided to conduct a sham interview with Flores, and part of their scheme to conduct this sham interview with Flores, they pretended that Daboll (who they already decided to hire before ever interviewing him based on their decision to already hire Schoen who they also hadn't ever interviewed yet) would be open to making a lateral move that he wasn't actually willing to make.

 

Quite the mental gymnastics to get around the fact that Daboll wanted away from McD.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Einstein said:

Schoen was hired by the Giants as GM, weeks after the text message about Daboll wanting to leave Buffalo.

 

Again, the timeline doesnt fit.

 

What fits is what @Reed83HOF said. Daboll wanted away from McD. It wasn't a secret.

 

If the Giants could mislead Flores about his chances as HC, they could easily mislead him about Daboll's alleged unhappiness with the Bills to get around tampering rules and pry him away from the Bills.  

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29 minutes ago, Einstein said:

When a fool argues with an expert, they often think the expert is getting lit up.

 

I am used to being the expert.

 

One thing you are not is an NBA player because you keep getting dunked on.  BOOOO YAAAA!  🤣 🔥

 

Also, what exactly makes you an "NFL Expert"?  I'm sure you're dying to post your credentials...

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