hondo in seattle Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Benjamin Albright is reporting that the Bills are open to trading away Diggs. I'm not sure I believe him but if true, it's one more reason to get DHop. “I talked to some people in Buffalo on the condition of anonymity and they said that, ‘Publicly, we’re not moving him. Privately, we would consider it under the right circumstances.’” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 hours ago, 34-78-83 said: I wasn't really saying anything about Gabe. Just that Juju ain't it. I don't think Kincaid will quite get there to #2 status in year 1. I think Gabe is a fantastic #3. Gotta make it work by hitting the open man in this offense instead of opting deep all the time when there are underneath options. Knox will help too, That is also a good point... how they are utilized makes a difference. How many WR3's getting nearly 1000 yards (including playoffs) and 8 TDs last year? Also, only 14% of Allen's completions and 9% of his attempts resulted in catches over 20 yards. That's the vast majority of catches in the shorter range---and nothing like "going deep all the time". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 6/21/2023 at 9:12 AM, 4merper4mer said: He’s a Pats fan on a roll. Sounds like a recipe to cause an upset stomach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How many WR3's getting nearly 1000 yards (including playoffs) and 8 TDs last year? Also, only 14% of Allen's completions and 9% of his attempts resulted in catches over 20 yards. That's the vast majority of catches in the shorter range---and nothing like "going deep all the time". I think that's the point Davis's targets incredibly efficient, so having him at close to 1000yards is an anchor on your offense He needs to be a third option, w fewer targets and yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think that's the point Davis's targets incredibly efficient, so having him at close to 1000yards is an anchor on your offense He needs to be a third option, w fewer targets and yards So you want to change the personnel on one of the best offenses in the league??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 16 hours ago, Doc said: He doesn't really want to sign with the Cheaters or Titans. Otherwise he would have already. He may just have to if he's mostly interested in money. The longer this lingers the more I begin to wonder whether we may not be out on this after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, SWATeam said: So you want to change the personnel on one of the best offenses in the league??? Yes. That's how you improve, by getting better players Not changing what's working to accommodate limited ones as you propose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: Yes. That's how you improve, by getting better players Not changing what's working to accommodate limited ones as you propose I said nothing about changing anything to accommodate Davis. I simply would like to see a more consistent lower variance approach. Seems like our favorite play on 3rd and 2 was a 40 yard sideline bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, SWATeam said: I said nothing about changing anything to accommodate Davis. I simply would like to see a more consistent lower variance approach. Seems like our favorite play on 3rd and 2 was a 40 yard sideline bomb. Best in the league on third down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 22 hours ago, Doc said: Sherfield also had 14 fewer targets. Primarily because he had 2 really good WRs on the field at the same time. 21 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I guess a wash. McKenzie also had mainly 1 v 1 matchups. I think Sherfield will be a decent upgrade. I think Harty could be special. John Brown type #s. Ppl forget Brown went for over 1k yards 6 TDs in 2019. Could see Harty go for 800 and 8 TDs , because we have way more weapons now compared to 19. Also, Josh is light years better than he was in 19 14 hours ago, JerseyBills said: And so do we. Davis might not be Waddle. But considering our TEs vs Miami, playmaker wise.. I think it's pretty even And Sherfield the year before in SF? And the 3 years before that in AZ? To me Sherfield is an avg guy and a roster bubble-type player. Not an upgrade to the WR just a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, ngbills said: And Sherfield the year before in SF? And the 3 years before that in AZ? To me Sherfield is an avg guy and a roster bubble-type player. Not an upgrade to the WR just a replacement. Sherfield showed last year he can be a WR and contribute on ST, key being both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Benjamin Albright is reporting that the Bills are open to trading away Diggs. I'm not sure I believe him but if true, it's one more reason to get DHop. “I talked to some people in Buffalo on the condition of anonymity and they said that, ‘Publicly, we’re not moving him. Privately, we would consider it under the right circumstances.’” first of all the bills can't afford to trade him this year esp after the last restructure.... these reporters spewing out garbage like this is so stupid. cap hit this year would be 13.2 and next year would be over 31 mil... he's not going anywhere Edited June 22, 2023 by gordong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think that's the point Davis's targets incredibly efficient, so having him at close to 1000yards is an anchor on your offense He needs to be a third option, w fewer targets and yards Why would you want an incredibly efficient (42 of his 48 catches were for 1st downs or TDs) receiver to have fewer targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would you want an incredibly efficient (42 of his 48 catches were for 1st downs or TDs) receiver to have fewer targets? that should read inefficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: that should read inefficient it was correct the 1st printing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: it was correct the 1st printing. 50% catch rate passer rating of 80 when targeted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would you want an incredibly efficient (42 of his 48 catches were for 1st downs or TDs) receiver to have fewer targets? Because on third and forth down he was targeted 28 times and caught 12 passes. That’s 43% catch rate when we need a play to keep a drive moving. Thats terrible. That’s much below his average that was bad to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: 50% catch rate passer rating of 80 when targeted One can argue the drops are on him. All the other misses are not--Allen shares in that obviously...6 of his targets to Davis went to a Defender. 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: Because on third and forth down he was targeted 28 times and caught 12 passes. That’s 43% catch rate when we need a play to keep a drive moving. Thats terrible. That’s much below his average that was bad to begin with. How many 4th down targets did he get? What the average? Edited June 22, 2023 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 58 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Benjamin Albright is reporting that the Bills are open to trading away Diggs. I'm not sure I believe him but if true, it's one more reason to get DHop. “I talked to some people in Buffalo on the condition of anonymity and they said that, ‘Publicly, we’re not moving him. Privately, we would consider it under the right circumstances.’” Would be idiotic from a cap perspective. Diggs knows this . Part of the reason he’s being a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: One can argue the drops are on him. All the other misses are not--Allen shares in that obviously...6 of his targets to Davis went to a Defender. How many 4th down targets did he get? What the average? He got 1. So he was 12 of 27 on third down. Not much of difference but still proves he’s very unreliable Six of his targets went to defenders, some of which looked like miscommunications. We rarely see Allen and Diggs have these miscues but we do with Davis and Allen. 🤔 Edited June 22, 2023 by BananaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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