Chiefs signing former Bucs LT Donovan Smith

[C.Biscuit97]

Their oline has taken a major step back this year. Bad OTs and now injuries in the interior. Combine that with their garbage WRs, it’s the season from hell for Mahomes. 

[FireChans]

13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

You are going off the rails a bit here, Hap.   Kincaid has basically the same yards per game as Knox had last year.  That's who he's replaced in the pecking order in 2023.   Shakir replaces the Crowder/McKenzie/Beasley in the slot.    But it's not as simple as that.   Diggs production is way down.   Davis is also down.    If you want to play that game you will go in circles because things have changed.   In part because Sherfield and Harty have not played to expectations.

 

So what we do know is that the Bills switched out veterans Crowder, McKenzie(and Kumerow if you wish) and brought in veterans Sherfield and Harty.........to some degree of fanfare......not just as special teams players and blockers.  And in Harty's case for significantly more money invested.

 

I mean, Sherfield didn't quit his job as the clear-cut WR3 in Miami to get paid near minimum wage to replace Kumerow as a 5th or 6th WR. 

 

He thought it was a better opportunity to advance his career with the Bills because they had a weaker 1-2 combo than the target hogging stud 1-2 Hill/Waddle grouping in Miami.    He might have even thought he could compete with Davis.........where he could not with either Hill and Waddle.      

 

What Sherfield found out is that having 2 studs in Miami actually provided him MORE opportunity.    They draw a lot of attention.  The Bills lack of a consistent WR2 type weapon has allowed defense's to distribute their attention more proportionately after Diggs.    

 

Where Kincaid fits into the equation at the time of the Sherfield and Sharty signings?    He did not exist in them. 

 

Because they had no idea they were going to have Kincaid.   In fact, most of the chatter/info was that WR was their hope to acquire in round 1........and they just pivoted with the WR's gone and Kincaid on the board.   

One correction. Sherfield was the 4 in Miami. Cedrick Wilson was paid a lot of money to be 3

[BADOLBILZ]

11 minutes ago, FireChans said:

One correction. Sherfield was the 4 in Miami. Cedrick Wilson was paid a lot of money to be 3

 

No he had clearly beaten Cedrick Wilson out in 2022.........it wasn't even close in terms of target share or production.   

 

Sherfield and Gesicki were neck and neck in targets at 51 and 52 but Sherfield was more productive per play and everyone knew Gesicki was leaving for somewhere they might use him more.

 

The Dolphins were shocked when Sherfield left his great gig to go to Buffalo.......and then when he said the reason was that he wanted to play with a great QB. 

 

And fwiw..........the Dolphins have not been able to replace Sherfield either.    It's Hill and Waddle and then a bunch of guys like Wilson with 200 or so yards. 

[FireChans]

16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

No he had clearly beaten Cedrick Wilson out in 2022.........it wasn't even close in terms of target share or production.   

 

Sherfield and Gesicki were neck and neck in targets at 51 and 52 but Sherfield was more productive per play and everyone knew Gesicki was leaving for somewhere they might use him more.

 

The Dolphins were shocked when Sherfield left his great gig to go to Buffalo.......and then when he said the reason was that he wanted to play with a great QB. 

 

And fwiw..........the Dolphins have not been able to replace Sherfield either.    It's Hill and Waddle and then a bunch of guys like Wilson with 200 or so yards. 

that’s true, but I think the Dolphins brass wanted Wilson to be #3 in targets this season, not Trent. Because of his price tag.

[BADOLBILZ]

28 minutes ago, FireChans said:

that’s true, but I think the Dolphins brass wanted Wilson to be #3 in targets this season, not Trent. Because of his price tag.

 

I think it was pretty clear by the end of last season that Cedrick Wilson wasn't going to be that guy.   I've seen all of their games and there hasn't been any concerted effort to get him regularly involved.  He has 381 total yards in his 2 seasons in Miami.  Sherfield had 417 last season alone and seemed to be trending up. (edit: and the money isn't THAT big with Cedrick it was basically a 2 year $12.5M guaranteed deal)

 

Sherfield leaving Miami for a $1.8M contract in Buffalo has turned into a seemingly terrible decision for him.   He had some helium in Miami in an offense that doesn't feature a TE,  didn't have much WR depth, had good passing weather, no state taxes....

 

For it to turn out like it has for Sherfield has to be extremely frustrating.   He and Poona Ford both have really seen their careers come to a screeching halt on $1.7M deals in Buffalo this season.  Hasn't been much better for Rapp either.   3 guys whose status has diminished in Buffalo after taking cheap deals.

Edited December 26, 2023 by BADOLBILZ

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

One correction. Sherfield was the 4 in Miami. Cedrick Wilson was paid a lot of money to be 3

What does being paid have to do with Sherfield beating Wilson out and actually playing WR3 while Wilson was watching him from the sideline?  Sherfield WAS the Miami WR3 last season.  Wilson was the WR4 while getting paid to be the WR3.

 

sherfield played 57% of the snaps

wilson played 22%
 

[HappyDays]

39 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I think it was pretty clear by the end of last season that Cedrick Wilson wasn't going to be that guy.   I've seen all of their games and there hasn't been any concerted effort to get him regularly involved.  He has 381 total yards in his 2 seasons in Miami.  Sherfield had 417 last season alone and seemed to be trending up. (edit: and the money isn't THAT big with Cedrick it was basically a 2 year $12.5M guaranteed deal)

 

Sherfield leaving Miami for a $1.8M contract in Buffalo has turned into a seemingly terrible decision for him.   He had some helium in Miami in an offense that doesn't feature a TE,  didn't have much WR depth, had good passing weather, no state taxes....

 

I think Sherfield has had trouble learning our system. Too many instances this season, even late in the season when he should know better, of him not being where he's supposed to be or running the wrong route. It has made him an afterthought. The Shanahan system is known to be very player friendly. I never expected him to be a major contributor but I expected his floor to be near what he did in Miami.

 

I think Beane has done a poor job of scouting the intelligence of players he brings in. We've had a lot of dopes over the years. It's one thing to watch film of a player in a particular system. He and his staff need to do a better job of talking to these players and feeling out if they're smart enough to perform consistently at a high level.

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

What does being paid have to do with Sherfield beating Wilson out and actually playing WR3 while Wilson was watching him from the sideline?  Sherfield WAS the Miami WR3 last season.  Wilson was the WR4 while getting paid to be the WR3.

 

sherfield played 57% of the snaps

wilson played 22%
 

I guess I mispoke, I think Miami wanted Wilson to take over as #3 this season.

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I guess I mispoke, I think Miami wanted Wilson to take over as #3 this season.

Copy that.  

[BADOLBILZ]

31 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think Sherfield has had trouble learning our system. 

 

I think Beane has done a poor job of scouting the intelligence of players he brings in. 

 

 

Yeah I was going to expand into the highlighted with Hap but wanted to keep the response simpler since she was just missing the point.   Which was the Bills choice of which vets to replace the outgoing Lil' Dummy and Crowder with.   It was a swap in the similar sense to what KC did at the tackle spots and there were fans on here who bought into the Kool-aid/untapped potential angle like it was a sure thing.    

 

For $7M in guarantees they got Sharty and Sherfield and replaced 500 yards in production with a combined 200 yards so far.   While Dummy and Crowder had a $1.2 and a vet min cap hit($880K) and have outproduced them by about 30 yards or so while also vanishing from any relevance whatsoever.   It was $6M waste of cap space to shuffle deck chairs that has also seemed to injure everyone involved.

 

But yeah,  I think your point is the main reason Sherfield hasn't been productive.   Not going to get targets if not trusted to be where you are supposed to be.   Was it the KC game or the Philly game where he was supposed to run a post and basically ran the virtually extinct bang 9 route......straight into coverage.......and Allen threw the ball where he should have been for an almost sure TD?   That was maybe the most egregiously poor route of the season by a Bills WR.   No question whatsoever that was all on him.  Gabe has had some doozies but that one was a true ***** by Sherfield.

[CincyBillsFan]

5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Their oline has taken a major step back this year. Bad OTs and now injuries in the interior. Combine that with their garbage WRs, it’s the season from hell for Mahomes. 

Like Allen had last season when he had the worst Guard play in the league and the RT was a turnstile.  The WR group was so bad they had to bring Brown & Beasley back from their couches to play.  And yet Allen led the Bills to a 13 - 3 season had 5045 total yards and 42 total TD's.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

51 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Like Allen had last season when he had the worst Guard play in the league and the RT was a turnstile.  The WR group was so bad they had to bring Brown & Beasley back from their couches to play.  And yet Allen led the Bills to a 13 - 3 season had 5045 total yards and 42 total TD's.

 

 

The common thing here seems to be we know how to find defensive players, but offensive players is a problem in free agency
 

They should address that

[Bermuda Triangle]

On 12/25/2023 at 5:05 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

This is nothing compared to Zerovoltz starting a thread talking about the Bills need worse receivers because the Chiefs won a SB without them(not realizing how important a do-everything-well receiver who caught nearly 80% of targets Juju Smith-Schuster was for them). 

 

You can always tell that someone has no clue about talent evaluation when part of their description of a player is "he can't be worse than" so-and-so.

 

Common sense could tell you that Brown was better than Taylor.   Common sense could tell you Smith was washed.    

 

In fairness,  we had a lot of people claiming Sherfield and Sharty were big upgrades over what the Bills got rid of...........and as I said then.......the truth was always that Crowder and McKenzie clearly had been better NFL players in their careers.    Sherfield and Harty weren't actually likely to be more productive players.    Sure enough, Crowder and McKenzie put up 500 yards in 2022........and the Bills have only gotten 200 from Sherfield and Sharty.

 

 

Crowder put up a whopping 60 receiving yards in 2022 (and predictably got hurt), so the balance of that 500 yards came from McKenzie (the same guy who have a corny, derisive nickname for....like "Sharty").  Both Sherfield and Harty this year have outproduced 2022 Crowder, which is admittedly a very low bar to clear.  Nobody has replaced  McKenzie's production from 2022, but he's a dummy, or whatever you repeatedly call him

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Crowder put up a whopping 60 receiving yards in 2022 (and predictably got hurt), so the balance of that 500 yards came from McKenzie (the same guy who have a corny, derisive nickname for....like "Sharty").  Both Sherfield and Harty this year have outproduced 2022 Crowder, which is admittedly a very low bar to clear.  Nobody has replaced  McKenzie's production from 2022, but he's a dummy, or whatever you repeatedly call him

 

 

So I posted the stats......and you.........thought I didn't know the stats?  

 

You're a little lost, Bermuda.

 

The point is that Bills fans thought it was a big upgrade adding Sharty and Sherfield.......like the Chiefs did with the OT's.......the subject of this thread.

 

It's just the nature of uninformed and/or unrealistic fans to expect the near best possible results..........even though the rule of thumb with free agency has always been that it usually(at least in year 1) hurts the team that loses the player more than it helps the team that acquires the player.

 

But fwiw........Crowder has more receiving yardage than any of the other 3 this season as he circles the drain in what is probably his last year in the league.   As I said later in this thread.........the shuffling of the washed up Crowder and the 3 other nobodies has not benefitted ANYONE.     

 

As for the name-fluid receiver recently known as Deonte Harris..........what's wrong with a tweak so that WR's 3-6 all have last names that start with "Sh"?    The HuSH brothers were going to quiet the doubters like me.  Teamwork makes the dreamwork.    

[Bermuda Triangle]

13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So I posted the stats......and you.........thought I didn't know the stats?  

 

You're a little lost, Bermuda.

 

The point is that Bills fans thought it was a big upgrade adding Sharty and Sherfield.......like the Chiefs did with the OT's.......the subject of this thread.

 

It's just the nature of uninformed and/or unrealistic fans to expect the near best possible results..........even though the rule of thumb with free agency has always been that it usually(at least in year 1) hurts the team that loses the player more than it helps the team that acquires the player.

 

But fwiw........Crowder has more receiving yardage than any of the other 3 this season as he circles the drain in what is probably his last year in the league.   As I said later in this thread.........the shuffling of the washed up Crowder and the 3 other nobodies has not benefitted ANYONE.     

 

As for the name-fluid receiver recently known as Deonte Harris..........what's wrong with a tweak so that WR's 3-6 all have last names that start with "Sh"?    The HuSH brothers were going to quiet the doubters like me.  Teamwork makes the dreamwork.    

So if you know the stats, then you know that the  production of the "HuSH brothers", as you call them, through 15 games in 2023, has exceeded that of the McKenzie/Crowder/Shakir trio in 2022.  So it has been an upgrade, albeit a relatively minor one.

[FireChans]

17 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

The common thing here seems to be we know how to find defensive players, but offensive players is a problem in free agency
 

They should address that

My hot take is really that last year was an AWFUL FA class by Beane, probably the worst of his regime from a results standpoint.

 

This year has been mediocre, with the crummy WR's being predictably crummy and being targeted for strange reasons, but the LG and edge rusher additions have been homeruns.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

So if you know the stats, then you know that the  production of the "HuSH brothers", as you call them, through 15 games in 2023, has exceeded that of the McKenzie/Crowder/Shakir trio in 2022.  So it has been an upgrade, albeit a relatively minor one.

?????????

[FireChans]

2022: McK, Shakir, Crowder: 699 yards, 6 TDs

 

2023: Shakir, Harty, Sherfield: 667 yards, 3 TD's

 

Money well spent lmao. Shakir ended up doing the heavy lifting anyway.

[Bermuda Triangle]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

2022: McK, Shakir, Crowder: 699 yards, 6 TDs

 

2023: Shakir, Harty, Sherfield: 667 yards, 3 TD's

 

Money well spent lmao. Shakir ended up doing the heavy lifting anyway.

Yeah, that's not accurate.  

 

For context, the 2023 Bills have thrown the ball less, and have run the ball more, than the 2022 Bills.  And 2023 stats are through 15 games, while 2022 stats are for 16 games.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Yeah, that's not accurate.  

 

For context, the 2023 Bills have thrown the ball less, and have run the ball more, than the 2022 Bills.  And 2023 stats are through 15 games, while 2022 stats are for 16 games.

That's what PFR says:

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2022.htm

[Bermuda Triangle]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

That's what PFR says:

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2022.htm

423 (McKenzie) + 161 (Shakir) + 60 (Crowder) = 644

[FireChans]

Just now, Bermuda Triangle said:

423 (McKenzie) + 161 (Shakir) + 60 (Crowder) = 644

You’re missing rushing. That counts as production. 
 

Although in Harry’s case (4 carries for 0 yards), it doesn’t really. Lol

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

You’re missing rushing. That counts as production. 
 

Although in Harry’s case (4 carries for 0 yards), it doesn’t really. Lol

lol, you can have the rushing yards.

 

2022 receiving for McKenzie/Shakir/Crowder, 98 targets for 644 yards, in 16 games in addition to rushing yards on end arounds

 

2023 receiving for Shakir/Harty/Sherfield, 70 targets for 667 yards, in 15 games.

 

so...congrats?

[FireChans]

23 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

lol, you can have the rushing yards.

 

2022 receiving for McKenzie/Shakir/Crowder, 98 targets for 644 yards, in 16 games in addition to rushing yards on end arounds

 

2023 receiving for Shakir/Harty/Sherfield, 70 targets for 667 yards, in 15 games.

 

so...congrats?

Yeah you aren’t adding them for 2022 which is why it’s wrong.

 

Harty and Sherfield have 200 yards on the year. For $5.5M against the cap. Just a brutal investment.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

So if you know the stats, then you know that the  production of the "HuSH brothers", as you call them, through 15 games in 2023, has exceeded that of the McKenzie/Crowder/Shakir trio in 2022.  So it has been an upgrade, albeit a relatively minor one.

 

You clearly don't understand the subject of this thread.

 

KC fans thought they were getting upgrades at OT.......because they expected those players talents to be optimized........because it was THEIR team.

 

Bills fans had the same kind thoughts about the veteran replacements in the WR room........they were certain to be upgrades..........even though the more LIKELY outcome was that they would produce closer to or less than their career norms........which for Sherfield and Sharty were VERY poor numbers.

 

You for some reason want to cherry pick players who have been constants and add them randomly to some equation that's irrelevant to the topic.   And isn't the least bit enlightening because you aren't mentioning that the other constants/incumbents are all having down years.    The Bills passing game has gotten worse.......Diggs and Davis are having down years........but that isn't the topic.   Understand?

 

   

[FilthyBeast]

On 12/26/2023 at 7:54 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Their oline has taken a major step back this year. Bad OTs and now injuries in the interior. Combine that with their garbage WRs, it’s the season from hell for Mahomes. 

 

When healthy they still have the best interior oline in the NFL, including the best center and future HOF in Creed Humphrey.

[SWATeam]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

When healthy they still have the best interior oline in the NFL, including the best center and future HOF in Creed Humphrey.

That's why both KC and MIA were going undefeated this year!!!

[Billl]

On 12/26/2023 at 9:19 AM, NewEra said:

Thanks

 

 

when she going gets tough, the @Billl gets gone.  R you really have nothing to say about your boys guy?  You’ve always been so quick to defend them.  Now you log in, read the pain and log off without defense.  Is the Taylor Swift merch as expensive as the SB merch?

What’s the question here?  Smith has been hurt, but he’s been worth a 1 year, $3,000,000 contract while Morris has been developed.  It sounds like the bigger question is about the Chiefs in general.  They’re a mess at the moment, but they’re 9-6 and nearly a lock to win the division for the 8th straight time with 3 weeks to figure it out before the playoffs.  

 

The Taylor Swift thing is still great.  Travis’s house is walking distance from the house I grew up in, and my mom excitedly told me about bumping into him at Trader Joe’s this weekend.  Doesn’t sound like there will be any new Super Bowl merch to buy this season, but who knows?  3 trips in the last 4 seasons while still being the defending champs in the meantime is still pretty fun, though.

On 12/25/2023 at 3:14 PM, NewEra said:

You’ve got the same record as Kansas City due to an offensive Offside call.  Raise a banner, I guess.

[NewEra]

On 12/25/2023 at 1:04 PM, NewEra said:

 

 

 

@Billl @Zerovoltz

Who’s worse now?  Brown/wylie or smith/taylor? Taylor might be the worst RT in the league.  I’d rather pay David Quessenberry 10M per year than pay Taylor 20M.  
 

22.8 ppg…… before this beating at the hands of the raiders D.  Down from a league leading 29.2

 

How’s that young WR unit working out?  Rice looks great.  Toney and Moore on par with Juwaanawoman Taylor.  Just awful.  
 

The inferior (to the chiefs) Bills OL and WRs certainly aren’t looking inferior to KC in December.  Or maybe they are inferior…..and Josh allen is just a better QB.  

 

Merry Christmas 🎁 

 

18 minutes ago, Billl said:

What’s the question here?  Smith has been hurt, but he’s been worth a 1 year, $3,000,000 contract while Morris has been developed.  It sounds like the bigger question is about the Chiefs in general.  They’re a mess at the moment, but they’re 9-6 and nearly a lock to win the division for the 8th straight time with 3 weeks to figure it out before the playoffs.  

 

The Taylor Swift thing is still great.  Travis’s house is walking distance from the house I grew up in, and my mom excitedly told me about bumping into him at Trader Joe’s this weekend.  Doesn’t sound like there will be any new Super Bowl merch to buy this season, but who knows?  3 trips in the last 4 seasons while still being the defending champs in the meantime is still pretty fun, though.

You’ve got the same record as Kansas City due to an offensive Offside call.  Raise a banner, I guess.

Just read.  Here’s a hint.  There’s these things called question marks ❓They help you decipher questions from statements.  
 

your offensive line, which has been heavily invested in, has been on par with your WR unit.  The OTs have been a major issue.  There’s no chance you would’ve won the SB last year with this tandem up bozos.

 

we’re also a 59 yard fg in the rain, a 12 men on the field penalty, a mac jones looking like Tom Brady TD drive, a london game playing against a team that had been there for 2 weeks away from being a few games ahead of you.  Every team has games in which one terrible play changed the outcome of the game.  It happens to us every game.  Your WR lined up offside.  Toney is an idiot.  You lose.  Let’s not act like it wasn’t an obvious penalty.  The flag was thrown seconds before the pass was even thrown.  
 

your d looks great though.  Sneed about to make 23M+

[Billl]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

 

Just read.  Here’s a hint.  There’s these things called question marks ❓They help you decipher questions from statements.  
 

your offensive line, which has been heavily invested in, has been on par with your WR unit.  The OTs have been a major issue.  There’s no chance you would’ve won the SB last year with this tandem up bozos.

 

we’re also a 59 yard fg in the rain, a 12 men on the field penalty, a mac jones looking like Tom Brady TD drive, a london game playing against a team that had been there for 2 weeks away from being a few games ahead of you.  Every team has games in which one terrible play changed the outcome of the game.  It happens to us every game.  Your WR lined up offside.  Toney is an idiot.  You lose.  Let’s not act like it wasn’t an obvious penalty.  The flag was thrown seconds before the pass was even thrown.  
 

your d looks great though.  Sneed about to make 23M+

Okay.  So you’re 9-6 and the Chiefs are 9-6.  Neither look like legit contenders this season.  It makes me glad that we’ve banked 2 Super Bowls in the past 4 seasons, especially given the fact that last season was supposed to be a rebuilding year with the 2024 season in mind.  2022’s win was a complete bonus.  We’re in a great spot cap-wise to compete going forward.  Chris Jones will bring a comp pick and Sneed will either do the same or be tagged/traded.

 

Rice has already proven himself to be what the Bills hope Kincaid will someday.  Morris is already a capable LT, and our secondary is stacked with young talent.  Don’t you worry about the Chiefs.  As much as I appreciate your concern for our dynasty, your time would be better spent hoping the Bills can make the playoffs in the final season before they have to tear it down.

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, Billl said:

Okay.  So you’re 9-6 and the Chiefs are 9-6.  Neither look like legit contenders this season.  It makes me glad that we’ve banked 2 Super Bowls in the past 4 seasons, especially given the fact that last season was supposed to be a rebuilding year with the 2024 season in mind.  2022’s win was a complete bonus.  We’re in a great spot cap-wise to compete going forward.  Chris Jones will bring a comp pick and Sneed will either do the same or be tagged/traded.

 

Rice has already proven himself to be what the Bills hope Kincaid will someday.  Morris is already a capable LT, and our secondary is stacked with young talent.  Don’t you worry about the Chiefs.  As much as I appreciate your concern for our dynasty, your time would be better spent hoping the Bills can make the playoffs in the final season before they have to tear it down.

We are now 10-6. It’s probably bad karma to say you’re gonna be 9-7.

 

Oh well.

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, Billl said:

Okay.  So you’re 9-6 and the Chiefs are 9-6.  Neither look like legit contenders this season.  It makes me glad that we’ve banked 2 Super Bowls in the past 4 seasons, especially given the fact that last season was supposed to be a rebuilding year with the 2024 season in mind.  2022’s win was a complete bonus.  We’re in a great spot cap-wise to compete going forward.  Chris Jones will bring a comp pick and Sneed will either do the same or be tagged/traded.

 

Rice has already proven himself to be what the Bills hope Kincaid will someday.  Morris is already a capable LT, and our secondary is stacked with young talent.  Don’t you worry about the Chiefs.  As much as I appreciate your concern for our dynasty, your time would be better spent hoping the Bills can make the playoffs in the final season before they have to tear it down.

And you didn’t answer anything I’ve asked. Thanks.  I was just asking your opinion but all you did was beat around the bush, as expected
 

I don’t worry about the chiefs…..don’t you worry.  
 

edit;  I stand corrected. I do worry about the chiefs getting beaten by a backup this deep into the season

Edited December 31, 2023 by NewEra

[Billl]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

And you didn’t answer anything I’ve asked. Thanks.  I was just asking your opinion but all you did was beat around the bush, as expected
 

I don’t worry about the chiefs…..don’t you worry.  
 

edit;  I stand corrected. I do worry about the chiefs getting beaten by a backup this deep into the season

Cool.  We’re a week away from finishing up a “disappointing” regular season 11-6 and winning 8 straight division titles and a home playoff game. The last time the Ravens got the 1 seed, we won the Super Bowl.  Maybe history will repeat itself.  If not, flags fly forever.  Sometimes we win Super Bowls.  Sometimes we don’t.  Either way, I’m not going to freak out over regular season wins and losses.  

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

We are now 10-6. It’s probably bad karma to say you’re gonna be 9-7.

 

Oh well.

Cheers, so are we.

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, Billl said:

Cool.  We’re a week away from finishing up a “disappointing” regular season 11-6 and winning 8 straight division titles and a home playoff game. The last time the Ravens got the 1 seed, we won the Super Bowl.  Maybe history will repeat itself.  If not, flags fly forever.  Sometimes we win Super Bowls.  Sometimes we don’t.  Either way, I’m not going to freak out over regular season wins and losses.  

Cheers, so are we.

I knew it was a mistake the second I posted it!

[Dablitzkrieg]

On 12/27/2023 at 11:44 AM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

You clearly don't understand the subject of this thread.

 

KC fans thought they were getting upgrades at OT.......because they expected those players talents to be optimized........because it was THEIR team.

 

Bills fans had the same kind thoughts about the veteran replacements in the WR room........they were certain to be upgrades..........even though the more LIKELY outcome was that they would produce closer to or less than their career norms........which for Sherfield and Sharty were VERY poor numbers.

 

You for some reason want to cherry pick players who have been constants and add them randomly to some equation that's irrelevant to the topic.   And isn't the least bit enlightening because you aren't mentioning that the other constants/incumbents are all having down years.    The Bills passing game has gotten worse.......Diggs and Davis are having down years........but that isn't the topic.   Understand?

 

   

Use commas instead of repeating dots.  Please and thank you

[HappyDays]

7 hours ago, Billl said:

What’s the question here?  Smith has been hurt, but he’s been worth a 1 year, $3,000,000 contract while Morris has been developed.  It sounds like the bigger question is about the Chiefs in general.  They’re a mess at the moment, but they’re 9-6 and nearly a lock to win the division for the 8th straight time with 3 weeks to figure it out before the playoffs.  

 

The Taylor Swift thing is still great.  Travis’s house is walking distance from the house I grew up in, and my mom excitedly told me about bumping into him at Trader Joe’s this weekend.  Doesn’t sound like there will be any new Super Bowl merch to buy this season, but who knows?  3 trips in the last 4 seasons while still being the defending champs in the meantime is still pretty fun, though.

You’ve got the same record as Kansas City due to an offensive Offside call.  Raise a banner, I guess.

 

Bad look, man. Some of your takes on the Chiefs' investments on offense were flat out wrong. You would look better just standing up and admitting it. I remember a post of yours earlier in the season where you said "this is the best Chiefs team I've ever seen." Still feeling that way?

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Use commas instead of repeating dots.  Please and thank you

 

No.

 

But if you are going to try to be a punctuation Nazi(in addition to your other glorifications of The Third Reich).........you could begin by knowing that it's not called "repeating dots" ..........it's called an ellipsis.    Also, be sure to use periods at the end of all of your sentences so that you don't look hypocritical or hilariously ignorant.........or both.    

 

You're welcome. 

[Billl]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Bad look, man. Some of your takes on the Chiefs' investments on offense were flat out wrong. You would look better just standing up and admitting it. I remember a post of yours earlier in the season where you said "this is the best Chiefs team I've ever seen." Still feeling that way?

I didn’t say that.  I said it was the most talented, and yes it is.  Kansas City has the youngest defense in the league while giving up the fewest points.  There’s a difference between that and being the best.  The 2020 Chiefs team was the best team of this dynasty, but they lost to the Bengals in the AFCCG.  I didn’t expect Smith to be an upgrade to Brown.  I liked the signing (and still do) because we got a serviceable LT for $3,000,000 a year.  Taylor has been a bust, but he’s still an upgrade over Wylie.  Truth be told, Taylor’s actual play has been solid.  It’s his penalties that have been a disaster.  I didn’t love the signing at the time, but I understood the rationale.  In retrospect, it looks like a mistake.  Then again, the book hasn’t been written.

 

Chiefs fans hated Brown last season, but he was the starting LT on a Super Bowl champion that didn’t give up a sack to the team who led the league in sacks.  I actually liked him more than most Chiefs fans (@Zerovoltz for example hated him), but he was absolute garbage today, and I’m glad he was wearing orange instead of red.

 

Regardless of how the season ends, it’s pretty funny that the Chiefs are in line for the 2 seed in the playoffs in a “down year” following a Super Bowl win and posters here are acting like there’s some shame in that.  Y’all should be so lucky.

 

 

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, Billl said:

I said it was the most talented, and yes it is.

 

Yeah, sure, whatever you say.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

Cool.  We’re a week away from finishing up a “disappointing” regular season 11-6 and winning 8 straight division titles and a home playoff game. The last time the Ravens got the 1 seed, we won the Super Bowl.  Maybe history will repeat itself.  If not, flags fly forever.  Sometimes we win Super Bowls.  Sometimes we don’t.  Either way, I’m not going to freak out over regular season wins and losses.  

Cheers, so are we.

Huge win.  Good to see the defensive investment worked out today.  We need all the help we can get

[Dablitzkrieg]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

No.

 

But if you are going to try to be a punctuation Nazi(in addition to your other glorifications of The Third Reich).........you could begin by knowing that it's not called "repeating dots" ..........it's called an ellipsis.    Also, be sure to use periods at the end of all of your sentences so that you don't look hypocritical or hilariously ignorant.........or both.    

 

You're welcome. 

I think an ellipsis has 3 or 4 dots, not 76.  It's just annoying to me.   Nothing personal kid