The Walls be Closing

[SectionC3]

3 hours ago, Irv said:

Go squirt a few, you pansy.

 

 

I’ll borrow from Winston Churchill.  At the end of today, I’ll be sober and you’ll still be a MAGA slob.  

[The Frankish Reich]

10 minutes ago, Irv said:

Od course he lied

What did he lie about? I've seen the argument that Pence was too cautious (Trump called him weak), but where's the lie? He said he was convinced, after seeking the advice of his counsel, that he lacked authority to reject electoral slates. Are you saying that's a lie? Then I guess his counsel is a liar too. I guess Trump is the last honest man in America. Including you.

[49er Fan]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

I’ll borrow from Winston Churchill.  At the end of today, I’ll be sober and you’ll still be a MAGA slob.  

I think Albert Watkins, the lawyer for Jacob Chansley (the “QAnon Shaman”) said it best:  “…these defendants—and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully—but they’re all f—king short-bus people. These are people with brain damage, they’re f—king ######ed, they’re on the g-d—n spectrum.”

[BillsFanNC]

^^^^

 

I'll take four consecutive useful idiot posts for $1000, Alex.

[Westside]

1 minute ago, 49er Fan said:

I think Albert Watkins, the lawyer for Jacob Chansley (the “QAnon Shaman”) said it best:  “…these defendants—and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully—but they’re all f—king short-bus people. These are people with brain damage, they’re f—king ######ed, they’re on the g-d—n spectrum.”

Sounds a lot like the dems on this board.

 

[BillsFanNC]

You'd think leftists wouldn't bring up the shaman considering the video the government hid for so long that exonerated him and resulted in his release from the gulag. 

 

But useful idiots being useful idiots...

[Irv]

13 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Do you hold Trump to the same standard of lying? Is he also a phony?

 

Where have you been?  Of course, he is. He's a politician.  Only bigger liar, is that dope we have in the WH now.  What a mess.   

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

I think Albert Watkins, the lawyer for Jacob Chansley (the “QAnon Shaman”) said it best:  “…these defendants—and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully—but they’re all f—king short-bus people. These are people with brain damage, they’re f—king ######ed, they’re on the g-d—n spectrum.”

To these you may also add Ashlii (sic) Babbit, the official Martyr (from the AP)

 

Her Twitter account, which was taken down after her death, was rife with references to the QAnon conspiracy theory, which centers on the baseless belief that Trump has secretly battled deep-state enemies and a cabal of Satan-worshiping cannibals that includes prominent Democrats who operate a child sex trafficking ring.

“Nothing will stop us,” Babbitt tweeted Jan. 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!”

Among Q followers, “The Storm” refers to the predicted day Trump would finally unmask the pedophile cabal, arrest and execute those deemed traitors and restore America to greatness.

 

And the favorite Twitter monkey of some posters here, the legendary Jack Posobiec of Pizzagate fame. You know, where the child sex slaves were held in the basement of a pizza join? The one that actually didn't even have a basement? (from his wikipedia page)

 

Posobiec has promoted many falsehoods,[34] leading to Philadelphia calling him the "King of Fake News" in 2017.[23] He was one of the most prominent promoters on social media of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, which falsely claimed that high-ranking officials were involved in a child-sex ring centered at a Washington, D.C., pizzeria.[23][19] He live-streamed an investigation of the pizzeria and was asked to leave after attempting to broadcast a child's birthday party being held in a back room.[65] Posobiec later said he had always thought the Pizzagate theory was "stupid" and had filmed his visit to debunk it.[23]

Posobiec attempted to discredit anti-Trump protesters in November 2016 by planting a sign at a protest reading "Rape Melania".[66][67][68] Posobiec denied his involvement to BuzzFeed News, but the same phone number was used in his contact with the website and the text messages he reportedly sent.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, Chris farley said:

Representative government of who?  PACS? Lobbyist?  Corps?  the all-powerful state?  The statist? the fascist? Donors?

 

 

 

 

corporations are composed of Americans.  The government is composed of Americans including those duly elected.  PAC's were greatly empowered by R's.  Arte you a socialist?  Marxist?  Just not get a big enuf piece of the pie?

[Irv]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

corporations are composed of Americans.  The government is composed of Americans including those duly elected.  PAC's were greatly empowered by R's.  Arte you a socialist?  Marxist?  Just not get a big enuf piece of the pie?

 

Members of the NRA are Americans.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

29 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

The sand called.  It misses your head.  Dude is running against Trump. Of course he lied.  No way does the Biden DOJ go after him.  He's their asset.  Two-tiered system.  What a mess.   

 

 

He's polling at what, 5%.  No chance in hell.  And he's going to perjure himself to the feds for a slim to none chance.  Remember, he's much smarter than you.  put yourself in his shoes.  or try to imagine that.

[BillsFanNC]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

You'd think leftists wouldn't bring up the shaman considering the video the government hid for so long that exonerated him and resulted in his release from the gulag. 

 

But useful idiots being useful idiots...

 

For the useful idiots who almost certainly have never seen the video because their masters won't show them.

 

I know, it still doesn't matter.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, Irv said:

 

Members of the NRA are Americans.  

Except when they're Russians!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Irv said:

 

Members of the NRA are Americans.  

Yup.  We are well aware.  And we are aware of their needs for semi automatics...good luck with that.  That happens, the only people that win are those that leave before it starts...

[Irv]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

He's polling at what, 5%.  No chance in hell.  And he's going to perjure himself to the feds for a slim to none chance.  Remember, he's much smarter than you.  put yourself in his shoes.  or try to imagine that.

 

The sand misses your head too.  Did you forget who runs the DOJ?   

[Joe Ferguson forever]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9870875/trump-indictment-highlights-election-jan-6/

 

2:20Trump’s ‘lies’ fuelled Jan. 6 riot, special counsel Jack Smith says

 

Those he raged against included Mike Pence, his otherwise loyal vice-president who Trump, according to the indictment, accusing of being “too honest” for not going along with a scheme to obstruct the certification of President Joe Biden’s victory on Jan. 6, 2021 — a scheme Trump’s own co-conspirators admitted was not lawful, the indictment alleges.

 

Prosecutors working for special counsel Jack Smith detailed several other allegations against not just Trump but also six unnamed co-conspirators, who are quoted at length allegedly shrugging off suggestions their actions will lead to violent protests and doubling down on false claims of election fraud, 

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[49er Fan]

18 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

You'd think leftists wouldn't bring up the shaman considering the video the government hid for so long that exonerated him and resulted in his release from the gulag. 

 

But useful idiots being useful idiots...

“Exonerated?” Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison - and he served that time.  The “video” you reference was laughed out of court by the judge when Chansley tried to withdraw his guilty plea: 

 

“These videos are decidedly not exculpatory.  Such footage, conveniently omitted by the [Fox News] program, shows nearly all of Mr. Chansley’s actions that day, including: carrying a six-foot-long pole armed with a spearhead, unlawfully entering the Capitol through a broken door, disobeying orders from law enforcement on more than a half-dozen occasions, screaming obscenities, entering the Senate chamber, climbing onto the Senate dais, sitting in the Vice President’s chair, and leaving a threatening message for the Vice President. That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

Edited August 2, 2023 by 49er Fan

[Roundybout]

30 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

The awake among us have known for quite awhile.

 

 

Are crimes “new categories of political conduct?”

[Westside]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Are crimes “new categories of political conduct?”

Ask joke bribem.

[Roundybout]

Just now, Westside said:

Ask joke bribem.

Whataboutism is the most common logical fallacy 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

49 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that Trump's poll numbers go up....again.

 

 

And you think that's a good sign for the future of the country?  That many Americans now believe that crime pays and is perfectly acceptable?  The party of law and order?  Give me a f'in break...bunch of rag tag rioters and insurrectionists.

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

4 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

“Exonerated?” Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison.

 - and he served that time.  The “video” you reference was laughed out of court by the judge when Chansley tried to withdraw his guilty plea: 

 

“These videos are decidedly not exculpatory.  Such footage, conveniently omitted by the [Fox News] program, shows nearly all of Mr. Chansley’s actions that day, including: carrying a six-foot-long pole armed with a spearhead, unlawfully entering the Capitol through a broken door, disobeying orders from law enforcement on more than a half-dozen occasions, screaming obscenities, entering the Senate chamber, climbing onto the Senate dais, sitting in the Vice President’s chair, and leaving a threatening message for the Vice President. That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

A commie judge said commie things? No way!

 

I don't give a ***** about any of that.

 

Because I'm a sensible human being who can take in visual data, interpret it and make my own conclusions.

 

Unlike useful idiots who have been rendered incapable of such activity. Like yourself.

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

“Exonerated?” Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison.

 - and he served that time.  The “video” you reference was laughed out of court by the judge when Chansley tried to withdraw his guilty plea: 

 

“These videos are decidedly not exculpatory.  Such footage, conveniently omitted by the [Fox News] program, shows nearly all of Mr. Chansley’s actions that day, including: carrying a six-foot-long pole armed with a spearhead, unlawfully entering the Capitol through a broken door, disobeying orders from law enforcement on more than a half-dozen occasions, screaming obscenities, entering the Senate chamber, climbing onto the Senate dais, sitting in the Vice President’s chair, and leaving a threatening message for the Vice President. That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

The theory seems to be that Chansley wasn't beaten or shot, hence his entry was authorized.

Of course if you've already broken in and then you proceed to try to break through an interior door into the Speaker's office, and are shot and killed when confronted by law enforcement, you were murdered.

Such is the logic of the January 6 apologists.

[BillsFanNC]

This part from the commie judge is particularly rich:

 

That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

 

Impede his progress? Irrelevant.

 

How about law enforcement officers  escorting him inside the friggin Senate chamber? How "irrelevant" is that?

 

***** off with impeding progress.

 

Or the NINE "outnumbered officers"  who allowed Chansley, by himself, to walk right past them inside?

 

Useful.

 

Idiots.

Edited August 2, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[Joe Ferguson forever]

11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

This part from the commie judge is particularly rich:

 

That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

 

Impede his progress? Irrelevant.

 

How about law enforcement officers  escorting him inside the friggin Senate chamber? How "irrelevant" is that?

 

***** off with impeding progress.

 

Or the NINE "outnumbered officers"  who allowed Chansley, by himself, to walk right past them inside?

 

Useful.

 

Idiots.

as opposed to useless or even harmful idiots?  I'd pick useful every time.

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

 

[SCBills]

If this is where we’re at, so be it….

 

This needs to be investigated and Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff etc., should face potential prison time. 
 

 

[49er Fan]

16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

This part from the commie judge is particularly rich:

 

That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

 

Impede his progress? Irrelevant.

 

How about law enforcement officers  escorting him inside the friggin Senate chamber? How "irrelevant" is that?

 

***** off with impeding progress.

 

Or the NINE "outnumbered officers"  who allowed Chansley, by himself, to walk right past them inside?

 

Useful.

 

Idiots.

Why is all of this so hard for you to understand?  Just being IN the Capitol during a government proceeding without authorization is a crime.  It doesn’t matter if a Capitol police officer invites you in because he’s afraid of getting stomped by a larger, incoming mob,  or any other reason.  They had no legal right to be inside - period.
 

Try to educate yourself about why  hundreds of people were arrested because of their actions on 1/6 - and don’t forget their ringleader - Trump.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If this is where we’re at, so be it….

 

This needs to be investigated and Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff etc., should face potential prison time. 
 

 

probably wasting my time but it's hot out and gotta wait for a while for chores...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-the-mueller-report-a-sophisticated-russian-interference-campaign

[Kemp]

2 hours ago, Irv said:

 

Yeah.  Real great guy.  Did you forget - he's a politician who is getting his hind end slapped in the polls by Trump?  Big Phony.  Will lie/say anything.   What a mess.

 

 

 

Logic fail for you.

If you judge whose a great guy by who's electable, you must think Biden's the greatest guy in America.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, 49er Fan said:

Why is all of this so hard for you to understand?  Just being IN the Capitol during a government proceeding without authorization is a crime.  It doesn’t matter if a Capitol police officer invites you in because he’s afraid of getting stomped by a larger, incoming mob,  or any other reason.  They had no legal right to be inside - period.
 

Try to educate yourself about why  hundreds of people were arrested because of their actions on 1/6 - and don’t forget their ringleader - Trump.

they don't want to understand or they do and don't care.

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that Trump's poll numbers go up....again.

 

 

 

His overall numbers will remain unaffected.

Isn't that obvious, yet?

1 hour ago, Irv said:

 

The sand called.  It misses your head.  Dude is running against Trump. Of course he lied.  No way does the Biden DOJ go after him.  He's their asset.  Two-tiered system.  What a mess.   

 

 

 

After a short hiatus, Irv has returned to the sandbox.

[BillsFanNC]

8 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

Why is all of this so hard for you to understand?  Just being IN the Capitol during a government proceeding without authorization is a crime.  It doesn’t matter if a Capitol police officer invites you in because he’s afraid of getting stomped by a larger, incoming mob,  or any other reason.  They had no legal right to be inside - period.
 

Try to educate yourself about why  hundreds of people were arrested because of their actions on 1/6 - and don’t forget their ringleader - Trump.

 

No *****. Anyone who entered the Capitol and wasn't violent should be charged.

 

With trespassing.

 

Not to four years in federal prison.

 

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

 

I know why.

 

Because youve been told to believe in a fairytale narrative.

 

And you dutifully swallow. Deep.

 

Because you're a useful idiot.

Edited August 2, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Pence is the rare Christian in politics who actually believes his oath, sworn on the Bible, means something.

According to some, Pence is a horrible human being bent of personally destroying lives and is innately evil.  He’ll be political fodder for a bit as he’s positioned as a decent and just man by those who hated him before, hate him now, and will hate him in the future. 
 

I think he’s a politician who navigates the bumpy and tumultuous  road between his values and what he needs to do to stay relevant in the political landscape. 
 

Be that as it may, he did the right thing at the right time, and for that, he should be commended. 

 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

probably wasting my time but it's hot out and gotta wait for a while for chores...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-the-mueller-report-a-sophisticated-russian-interference-campaign

Do you believe, after all these indictments of Trump, that Hillary Clinton should not have faced indictments as well?

 

Do you believe, after Jack Smith files indictments alleging “disregarding the truth”, that Adam Schiff should get off with no repercussions, when he - along with former Intel officials - knowingly pushed a false story (Intel officials again with the Biden laptop story) to take down a President and/or affect an election?

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

You'd think leftists wouldn't bring up the shaman considering the video the government hid for so long that exonerated him and resulted in his release from the gulag. 

 

But useful idiots being useful idiots...

 

He was released because he served the normal term for the charges levied and was then sent to a halfway house.

He was NEVER EXONERATED.

Do you really not understand this stuff?

[Pokebball]

Just now, SCBills said:

Do you believe, after all these indictments of Trump, that Hillary Clinton should not have faced indictments as well?

 

Do you believe, after Jack Smith files indictments alleging “disregarding the truth”, that Adam Schiff should get off with no repercussions, when he - along with former Intel officials - knowingly pushed a false story (Intel officials again with the Biden laptop story) to take down a President and/or affect an election?

The real issue here, for a lot of America, is the selective (partisan) application of justice. I didn't vote for Trump either time and certainly won't be in 2024. But this banana republic shyt is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime in DC politics. It's disgusting and history will look down on the Biden and the Dem party more than it does on Trump, and that is saying a lot.

[BillsFanNC]

Just now, Pokebball said:

The real issue here, for a lot of America, is the selective (partisan) application of justice. I didn't vote for Trump either time and certainly won't be in 2024. But this banana republic shyt is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime in DC politics. It's disgusting and history will look down on the Biden and the Dem party more than it does on Trump, and that is saying a lot.

 

Not if they win. Then they write ALL the history. 

[Tommy Callahan]

53 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Are crimes “new categories of political conduct?”

LOL. due process. innocent till proven guilty.

 

and the ones yelling guilty, have a nice record of being wrong about this topic.

 

but this time the farm and MSM got him.

 

Ham sandwiches can no longer be indicted.

 

 

[SCBills]

Just now, Pokebball said:

The real issue here, for a lot of America, is the selective (partisan) application of justice. I didn't vote for Trump either time and certainly won't be in 2024. But this banana republic shyt is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime in DC politics. It's disgusting and history will look down on the Biden and the Dem party more than it does on Trump, and that is saying a lot.

Agreed.  Trump certainly didn’t do himself any favors, and in knowing they wanted to come after him, seemed to do everything in his power to ensure they would.  Mainly due to his brazen incompetence.  
 

However, to see Biden lie about his involvement in his sons foreign business dealings, to see Adam Schiff mislead the public for years, to see Intel officials lie in order to affect an election, to see social media companies pressured to censor content that could affect an election, to see Hillary Clinton do much of the same stuff Trump has done - both with documents and election denial - and then see this ultra-aggressive attempt to take down one man for sins committed by many is Black Mirror territory …. And I don’t know how we come back from this.