Kemp Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Nice pivot. Haven't voted for Trump nor do I plan to. I've always felt he lacked moral character and he continues to confirm that. That doesn't mean the left has to be the alternative. Not by a long shot. In fact, this banana republic shyt Biden and the left are doing is the most shameful thing I've experienced in American politics. Pivot? I was replying to a srecific statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pokebball Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It would make sense that Florida would do better during the pandemic at academics nothing replaces in person, teaching, and Florida didn’t handle the pandemic, the same as other states did As a whole whenever you don’t include the once in a lifetime world virus, Florida does not do as well as these other states As a whole, Florida actually does OK. But they're in the top five in almost every category of the standardized test scores today. And I think the "catch up" by others will take a decade. 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Congress passes election reform designed to ward off another Jan. 6 Letting everything Trump did slide would be the most shameful thing in American politics and will only invite Trump and others like him to do the same. F that and your feelings Billsy and party over country! That's OK, you'll make that history curriculum across the country. 9 minutes ago, Kemp said: Pivot? I was replying to a srecific statement. Regarding Trump rallies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: The free speech argument is dumber than the he really believed he won argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Nice pivot. Haven't voted for Trump nor do I plan to. I've always felt he lacked moral character and he continues to confirm that. That doesn't mean the left has to be the alternative. Not by a long shot. In fact, this banana republic shyt Biden and the left are doing is the most shameful thing I've experienced in American politics. That’s fair enough I am totally guessing so don’t take this wrong, but are you more of a Tim Scott guy 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The free speech argument is dumber than the he really believed he won argument The right takes that free speech thing, and wears is it like a cloak of protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Billsy and party over country! That's OK, you'll make that history curriculum across the country. Stop projecting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The right takes that free speech thing, and wears is it like a cloak of protection? Well, it’s helpful if your base will believe any lie you tell them. Right off the bat, the indictment states that Trump isn’t being indicted for his speech but for his actions. You look at the statutes he allegedly violated and the facts being alleged, and it’s clearly not about speech. But feelings are more important than facts. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: That’s fair enough I am totally guessing so don’t take this wrong, but are you more of a Tim Scott guy I have two concerns when determining who I'm going to support. Policy and personal character. I'll give up some of one of these for the other. I do reach a floor on personal character sooner. For the first time in my life I didn't cast a vote for POTUS in 2016. I felt strongly that Clinton had little to no moral or ethical character. I wasn't sure about Trump but didn't have a good feeling. In 2020 I knew I wasn't going to vote for Trump and felt I could vote for Biden if he selected a strong VP (frankly, I was concerned about his health). Kamala killed any chance of that consideration. So I passed in 2020 as well. You asked about Tim Scott. Scott is further to the right than I am but he seems to be a stand up guy. So I would consider him. I haven't written off any of the candidates on the right, at this time, with the exception of Trump. Tulsi's character impresses the shyt out of me. Her policy is pretty far the to the left, however. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat over Trump. 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Well, it’s helpful if your base will believe any lie you tell them. Right off the bat, the indictment states that Trump isn’t being indicted for his speech but for his actions. You look at the statutes he allegedly violated and the facts being alleged, and it’s clearly not about speech. But feelings are more important than facts. You protect free speech, you protect lies. Lies are usually pretty easy to prove wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) Lawyers, McCarthy or Tribe here? Will be the trial of the decade...I totally discount Turley cuz he's a shill. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/legal-experts-slam-jack-smith-lousy-case-trump-disinformation-indictment Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Pokebball said: You protect free speech, you protect lies. Lies are usually pretty easy to prove wrong. We’ll I guess it’s good thing he isn’t being indicted for the lies he espouses, which have been proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 44 minutes ago, BillStime said: it'd been nice if he was ethical before his ex boss' prospects went south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: it'd been nice if he was ethical before his ex boss' prospects went south. He was pretty run of the mill conservative in his first stint as AG. Big proponent of the unitary executive but that’s not that far out of the mainstream for conservatives. Edited August 3, 2023 by ChiGoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: He was pretty run of the mill conservative in his first stint as AG. Big proponent of the unitary executive but that’s not that out of the mainstream for conservatives. He publicly interpreted the Mueller report in an extremely biased manner, favoring his boss. Left out the whole Russian interference piece. Follow the motivation (money usually). Isn't that what lw enforcement investigators normally do. Btw, watching Fox for shites and giggles. Hunter, hunter, Hunter. No defense of trump charges. Very little discussion of the indictment. Host just said something like "trump being indicted for questioning the validity of the election" in passing. Talk about playbook. I wonder how many copies were sent. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: He publicly interpreted the Mueller report in an extremely biased manner, favoring his boss. Left out the whole Russian interference piece. Follow the motivation (money usually). Isn't that what lw enforcement investigators normally do. Btw, watching Fox for shites and giggles. Hunter, hunter, Hunter. No defense of trump charges. Very little discussion of the indictment. Host just said something like "trump being indicted for questioning the validity of the election" in passing. Talk about playbook. I wonder how many copies were sent. Fox knows that they have to be very careful $800 million doesn’t grow on trees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: He publicly interpreted the Mueller report in an extremely biased manner, favoring his boss. Left out the whole Russian interference piece. Follow the motivation (money usually). Isn't that what lw enforcement investigators normally do. I honestly believe that those lies were less about Trump and more about enshrining the unitary executive belief that the president is basically a king. The idea that the president is capable of committing crimes is laughable if you believe all power is vested in the president. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I honestly believe that those lies were less about Trump and more about enshrining the unitary executive belief that the president is basically a king. The idea that the president is capable of committing crimes is laughable if you believe all power is vested in the president. He's still a fat ass shyster imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: He's still a fat ass shyster imo. Agreed and all of the backtracking and things that he is saying about Trump now do not change the fact that he did what he did regarding the Mueller report. I will never forgive him for that. That is the definition of a useful idiot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) The cognitive dissonance going on in this thread, is off the charts. Edited August 3, 2023 by Chris farley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Chris farley said: The cognitive dissidence going on in this thread, is off the charts. dissonance....sllllllow. a tension or clash resulting from the combination of two disharmonious or unsuitable elements. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Agreed and all of the backtracking and things that he is saying about Trump now do not change the fact that he did what he did regarding the Mueller report. I will never forgive him for that. That is the definition of a useful idiot just watched some clips of Barr's interview w Caitlin. Extremely damning of trump and convincingly argued. but then when asked who he'd vote for if biden vs trump, he demurs. fat ass shyster hedging his bets.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Spoiler alert for those wondering what becomes of billstime 30 years from now. He becomes redhawk. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Spoiler alert for those wondering what becomes of billstime 30 years from now. He becomes redhawk. we're both from Lewiston so not all that surprising. Similar, happy upbringing I suspect...but I also suspect we are very different people in daily life. Viva la difference! https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-indictment-insurrection-act-co-conspirators-rcna97773 This is truly chilling if unsurprising. The scumbags were planning a coup and violence was/is on the table. Do you see these actions as defensible? reasonable? According to the indictment, Philbin repeatedly discouraged Trump and his loyalists from trying to stay in the White House beyond the end of his term. In December, he allegedly told Trump, “There is no world, there is no option in which you do not leave the White House [o]n January 20th.” Then on the afternoon of Jan. 3, Philbin apparently tried to dissuade “Co-Conspirator 4” from trying to assume the role of acting attorney general as part of a reported bid to overturn the election results with Trump. He allegedly told that person that “there had not been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that if the Defendant [Trump] remained in office nonetheless, there would be ‘riots in every major city in the United States.’” The indictment alleges that Clark responded, “Well ... that’s why there’s an Insurrection Act.” Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: we're both from Lewiston so not all that surprising. Similar, happy upbringing I suspect...but I also suspect we are very different people in daily life. Viva la difference! https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-indictment-insurrection-act-co-conspirators-rcna97773 This is truly chhilling if unsurprising. The scumbags were planning a coup and violence was/is on the table. Do you see these actions as defensible? reasonable? Speaks well for neither the educational system nor the water supply in Lewiston. Edited August 3, 2023 by JDHillFan Grammar. 🤦♂️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Does not speak well for neither the educational system nor the water supply in Lewiston. nobody from little Lewiston ever succeeds in life😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Lewiston,_New_York btw, double negatives were frowned upon at Lewiston schools. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: nobody from little Lewiston ever succeeds in life😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Lewiston,_New_York The only impressive one on that entire list is the mob boss. He lived right next door to my grandmother! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: The only impressive one on that entire list is the mob boss. He lived right next door to my grandmother! 😁 Moose Johnston sucked in the NFL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: Moose Johnston sucked in the NFL... I like him better as a broadcaster. He always dresses sharp. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I like him better as a broadcaster. He always dresses sharp. 😉 By rumor, we almost had Frank Sinatra as a resident. There's a house on the escarpment he was supposedly interested in. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: By rumor, we almost had Frank Sinatra as a resident. There's a house on the escapement he was supposedly interested in. And HIS house is just a few doors down the street from a friend of mine’s in Palm Springs. Classic mid-century modern architecture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: nobody from little Lewiston ever succeeds in life😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Lewiston,_New_York btw, double negatives were frowned upon at Lewiston schools. This list is a reflection of the personal insecurities Lewiston natives are known for. James Fenimore Cooper and Rick Dudley are no more from Lewiston than Mark Levin and Donald Trump are. Wait long enough and Joe Biden will claim he grew up or practiced law there if he thinks it will get him somewhere. So you will have that going for you at some point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: And HIS house is just a few doors down the street from a friend of mine’s in Palm Springs. Classic mid-century modern architecture. this house was mid century modern as well. On NF country club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: This list is a reflection of the personal insecurities Lewiston natives are known for. James Fenimore Cooper and Rick Dudley are no more from Lewiston than Mark Levin and Donald Trump are. Wait long enough and Joe Biden will claim he grew up or practiced law there if he thinks it will get him somewhere. So you will have that going for you at some point. Many of my classmates are now just your average professionals or executives. It's an above average gene pool. So I guess you're correct. But insecurity was never a prevalent attitude among my friends. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: dissonance....sllllllow. a tension or clash resulting from the combination of two disharmonious or unsuitable elements. Damn. if you ever need a side hustle, you can replace the auto correct on my device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Many of my classmates are now just your average professionals or executives. So I guess you're correct. But insecurity was never a prevalent attitude among my friends. It’s frequently masked as pomposity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: It’s frequently masked as pomposity. yes, in a Brett Kavanaugh kind of way...with the booze but without the sexual misconduct (i mean there was some but not by me) or the radical right ideology. nobody's perfect. it was a competitive place. the opposite of communism or socialism and that's good, right? Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Damn. if you ever need a side hustle, you can replace the auto correct on my device. As I’ve said….the autocorrect is something that REALLY needs to be reworked. I get some sentences that are astonishingly odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: As I’ve said….the autocorrect is something that REALLY needs to be reworked. I get some sentences that are astonishingly odd. I got an IT friend that still tries to use talk to text. I get some doozies from him. And I have seen him use it. he usually has to make several attempts before hitting send. you would think the programs would have some kind of AI to see what words you use more often and stop correcting them. It's a real pain in the Ars if when it's an industry related message as it tries to correct everything and every acronym. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: Spoiler alert for those wondering what becomes of billstime 30 years from now. He becomes redhawk. Billstime was correct about the Big Lie failing bigly, right? I mean Trump might go to jail over that lie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Billstime was correct about the Big Lie failing bigly, right? I mean Trump might go to jail over that lie And you want to live in a country where politicians are put in prison for lying? We’re gonna be in short supply of politicians! 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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