Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: Zach Wison has physicay better tools than Mac... That's what she said. (Kid, either turn on the spellcheck, or proofread.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I think it's a good signing for them, tbh. Doesn't really change much in the scheme of the AFCE, but he should add something nice to their offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Are the Pats going to try him out at QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I like our TE's. I hope they use Morris more this coming season. He had a couple great plays in second half of season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 The first time he trips over his own feet and falls on his arse whiffing on a wham block Bill will have him consigned to the bench. 3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Knox would never have gotten $13 million a year on the open market. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The first time he trips over his own feet and falls on his arse whiffing on a wham block Bill will have him consigned to the bench. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. No team outside of Buffalo makes that deal for a guy who had struggled with drops. He makes more than Mark Andrews 🥴 Edited March 17, 2023 by Chicken Boo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9M for Gesicki? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: No team outside of Buffalo makes that deal for a guy who had struggled with drops. He makes more than Mark Andrews 🥴 Point 1 - he does NOT make more than Andrews. Andrews' deal is worth $1m more per year AAV. Point 2 - He hasn't struggled with drops really since his rookie year but every time he drops one now everyone immediately reverts to that. He had half of Mark Andrews drops last year and at a lower % too seeing as you mention him. Point 3 - Dawson Knox averages over 70% catch rate the last two years, is top 3 in TE touchdowns and per NextGen finished top 5 among the entire NFL in separation per route in 2022. Add to that among the top 10 or 12 tight ends in the league he is in the top 4 or 5 as a blocker. If Knox hit the market this offseason he would have got about what the Bills gave him. Hunter Henry (who we have already established is a reasonable statistical comparison in terms of receiving production) signed a year earlier for $12.5m and he can't hold Dawson's jock as a blocker. The only legit criticism of the Bills - Knox deal is they still haven't got the ball to him enough. That is a Dorsey problem (and maybe even an Allen one) but they have to get him the ball. He can be such a weapon for them. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He should have taken a 1-year deal with a better team, even if it was for less money. A 1-year deal is an audition for your next team and he won't maximize his next contract in Cheaterland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Point 1 - he does NOT make more than Andrews. Andrews' deal is worth $1m more per year AAV. Point 2 - He hasn't struggled with drops really since his rookie year but every time he drops one now everyone immediately reverts to that. He had half of Mark Andrews drops last year and at a lower % too seeing as you mention him. Point 3 - Dawson Knox averages over 70% catch rate the last two years, is top 3 in TE touchdowns and per NextGen finished top 5 among the entire NFL in separation per route in 2022. Add to that among the top 10 or 12 tight ends in the league he is in the top 4 or 5 as a blocker. If Knox hit the market this offseason he would have got about what the Bills gave him. Hunter Henry (who we have already established is a reasonable statistical comparison in terms of receiving production) signed a year earlier for $12.5m and he can't hold Dawson's jock as a blocker. The only legit criticism of the Bills - Knox deal is they still haven't got the ball to him enough. That is a Dorsey problem (and maybe even an Allen one) but they have to get him the ball. He can be such a weapon for them. Point 1 - He shouldn't be in the same realm as Andrews given their production at the position Point 2 - Andrews had twice the statistical production with Lamar being out for the last 5 weeks. Point 3 - With 49 and 48 receptions on the year, anything less would be pathetic. Hunter Henry? The guy who has 3 seasons under his belt better than Dawson's best to date? He has 9 drops for his career. Knox has 22. Edited March 17, 2023 by Chicken Boo 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 The guys an excellent receiver and match up problem. Going to the Pats who have not been able to work the TE’s in seems like a bad fit. As mentioned he’s the ultimate first down/garbage celebration king. Glad he’s no longer on Miami as they are a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Point 1 - He shouldn't be in the same realm as Andrews given their production at the position Point 2 - Andrews had twice the statistical production with Lamar being out for the last 5 weeks. Point 3 - With 49 and 48 receptions on the year, anything less would be pathetic. Hunter Henry? The guy who has 3 seasons under his belt better than Dawson's best to date? He has 9 drops for his career. Knox has 22. You know nothing about the tight end position. This is established. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) Where TEs go to die Edited March 18, 2023 by ßookie_tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I really wanted him. should be real good in ne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: He’s a beast of a WR when targeted, catches everything. But unlike Gronk he isn’t nearly as physical. He should do better than their last two FA TE acquisitions as far as being an offensive threat. Agreed. He's always been really productive against us. I guarantee that didn't escape Belichick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 We focus on Gronk and Kielce as pass catchers, but they are also both really great blockers. It adds to them as weapons because they can block and release and it’s believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: You know nothing about the tight end position. This is established. I'm not the one who thinks Dawson Knox is worth $13 million per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Patriots have emphasized TEs in their offense for years. Outside of Gronk, the rest of these guys have either murdered someone or faded into oblivion. I mean, Hunter Henry and Jonu Smith really turned that franchise around, right? At least we get to have fun watching this goofball frustrate the hell out of Belichick this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I'm not the one who thinks Dawson Knox is worth $13 million per season. No. The NFL thinks that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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