Beane again showing why he is a top GM

[GunnerBill]

36 minutes ago, Chaos said:

We will win the east. However even if we go 17-0, we won't know if any improvements made matter until the divisional round of the playoffs. 17-0 would be a blast, but it will take patience to get to the real answer. 

 

Yea I don't buy you either win it all or everything is failure. Of course the target should be winning it all. But it takes so much coming together to produce a Superbowl Champion. Including lady luck shining on you at key moments. 

[cwater10]

This "Beane Is A Bum" mentality is truly bizarre.  We are coming off of our 3rd division straight division title and 3rd straight year of winning at least 1 playoff game.  Fans are upset with the lack of transformation of the roster that accomplished this and we are just 4 days into free agency.  I look around and yes I do see division rivals making moves.  Personally, I am glad that we are not the team that feels compelled to take some of those risks.  I find it natural that the team that won its division by FIVE games would be looking for lesser change, than their rivals trying to make up for that sizable gap.  

 

Let the Jets roll the dice on the prospect of Rodgers having a good trip this year.  For Aaron, last year's trip didn't seem too euphoric for anyone with fortunes closely tied to it.  Let Miami take on Jalen Ramsey.  He's been a real difference maker vs Josh hasn't he?  Last year, their big move was to add "Bills Killer" Tyreek Hill.  And they still lost 2 of 3 to Buffalo including playoff elimination for their efforts.  Let them figure out what to do at QB if Tua works out, or if he doesn't.  They are screwed either way.  If they pay Tua, what do they have to sacrifice among Hill, Waddle (who will want to be paid big $) Chubb, Ramsey, Jalen Phillips, Wilkins etc...  The point being that all of our division rivals would trade places with us, no questions asked. Our future is simply brighter than theirs, and they would love nothing more than to see us panic and start making wholesale changes.  And I am very OK with a secondary of Poyer, Hyde, White, Elam and Jackson.  C'mon man... Back away from the disappointment of the playoff loss and get real.

 

Cincinnati?  Now there is an offseason to be concerned with.  They have lost both safeties.  They have swapped one unhappy LT for a more expensive malcontent.  They have lost Hayden Hurst and they still haven't even begun to deal with Burrow or T Higgins.  And their ownership group isn't know for throwing around even well deserved extensions.  They just signed CODY FORD.  Must be good times ahead in the jungle there.  Their window will be short.  

 

And the reality of KC is that life is going to be easier for them as long as they have 15, just like is was for NE when the had 12.  That doesn't mean we need to panic.  We have held our own competing with them.  It doesn't get easier, but that doesn't make Beane a bum for failing to have a magic wand to erase that reality.

 

Wake up.  This is NFL 2023.  There is no football entitlement.  

[balln]

So, I’m all on the everything must go to the offense this year - train 

 

BUT who’s playing DL this year ?

it’s Oliver , settle , and DQ. And a bunch of fringe roster guys 

 

AjE , groot, boogie , and a bunch of fringe roster guys ( Kingsley , Mike love ect) 

 

they have Von as LB on bills site but can’t count on his return until really late 

 

one of three things have to happen :

1) we are COMPLETELY changing our scheme / style on D 

2) we are rolling w fringe guys and DRAFTING SOME PPL this year

3) we are signing an Ingram , Dunlap , jjp ?

[Figster]

45 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I don't buy you either win it all or everything is failure. Of course the target should be winning it all. But it takes so much coming together to produce a Superbowl Champion. Including lady luck shining on you at key moments. 

I get that @GunnerBill

 

Josh Allen is an elite QB and while I realize how much goes into winning a Championship. I think its imperative the Buffalo Bills do everything possible known to mankind to win a Championship now while Josh Allen is in his prime IMO. Playoffs takes you up aginst the best O gurus in the league by way of coaching. Bills OC Ken Dorsey might be the weak link IMO.

 

Hopefully GM Beane is taking this under consideration...

 

 

[ngbills]

15 minutes ago, Figster said:

I get that @GunnerBill

 

Josh Allen is an elite QB and while I realize how much goes into winning a Championship. I think its imperative the Buffalo Bills do everything possible known to mankind to win a Championship now while Josh Allen is in his prime IMO. Playoffs takes you up aginst the best O gurus in the league by way of coaching. Bills OC Ken Dorsey might be the weak link IMO.

 

Hopefully GM Beane is taking this under consideration...

 

 

This. Can’t bank on having an elite qb forever. Bills fans should know this. You have to do what it takes to win when you do. 

[Chaos]

48 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

Wake up.  This is NFL 2023.  There is no football entitlement.

Except for Brandon's Beane's entitlement to rest on the laurels of the brilliant Josh Allen pick forever apparently. 

[Niagara]

On 3/15/2023 at 6:41 PM, Einstein said:

 

I understand that you have to sign some of your own, but the unfortunate part is that we do not have enough cap space to get new players.

 

Of our 2 new players, 1 has never made it through a full football season and has been on IR at some point for 2 of the last 3 seasons. The other was the 68th ranked free agent, according to NFL.com

It is hard paying one player 40-50 million, and expect a good team.

Edited March 18 by Niagara

[ngbills]

9 minutes ago, Niagara said:

It is hard paying one player 40-50 million, and expect a good team.

Who is that player? Our highest is under $20m I believe. 

[cwater10]

45 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Except for Brandon's Beane's entitlement to rest on the laurels of the brilliant Josh Allen pick forever apparently. 

S Diggs just unfollowed you.

[Niagara]

10 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Who is that player? Our highest is under $20m I believe. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-25102/#:~:text=Current Contract&text=In 2023%2C Allen will earn,dead cap value of %2471%2C289%2C124.

 

Josh Allen signed a 6 year, $258,034,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $16,500,000 signing bonus, $150,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $43,005,667.

[Chaos]

18 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

S Diggs just unfollowed you.

Without Allen, Diggs doesn't matter in the decision making for Beane.  

[Paup 1995MVP]

On 3/17/2023 at 2:56 PM, Eastport bills said:

You must be toughened up living in enemy territory. Those fools in Miami think they will be the big dogs in the AFCE now. Living down there is everyone’s dream. Sounds like a great situation you have and a Bills fan to boot. Nicely done.

Thank you.  I appreciate that.  My girlfriend suggested Fort Lauderdale two years ago to move to part time.  (our kids are grown)  We went down there to check out places and lucked into an apartment on the 42nd floor of a really cool high rise.  Amazing balcony view looking east about 2 and a half miles from the ocean right next to the New River.  Get to see boats going by our building all day long.  And there are plenty of flights nonstop between Atlanta and Fort Lauderdale everyday on Delta.  And pretty reasonably priced too.    

 

The Miami fans don't have much to say.  Because they know we have pretty much owned them for the last many years.  And seriously, how can you bash Josh Allen regardless of who you root for?!  And there are a lot of transplanted Buffalo fans in S Florida.  (the backup TE for the Dolphins Durham Smyth lives in my building.  Met him in the elevator one day.  One tall dude)   

[Chaos]

24 minutes ago, Niagara said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-25102/#:~:text=Current Contract&text=In 2023%2C Allen will earn,dead cap value of %2471%2C289%2C124.

 

Josh Allen signed a 6 year, $258,034,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $16,500,000 signing bonus, $150,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $43,005,667.

Beane has wizarded the cap hit for josh down the road. 47 mil next year, 56 the following. Only 18 this year. 

Edited March 18 by Chaos

[ngbills]

39 minutes ago, Niagara said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-25102/#:~:text=Current Contract&text=In 2023%2C Allen will earn,dead cap value of %2471%2C289%2C124.

 

Josh Allen signed a 6 year, $258,034,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $16,500,000 signing bonus, $150,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $43,005,667.

Avg means jack. The fact the hit goes up in future years makes spending more now important. Lots of guys have been getting one year or short deals. 
 

and some how Mahomes with a bigger contract are still able to add $20m per players. 

Edited March 18 by ngbills

[Eastport bills]

13 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Thank you.  I appreciate that.  My girlfriend suggested Fort Lauderdale two years ago to move to part time.  (our kids are grown)  We went down there to check out places and lucked into an apartment on the 42nd floor of a really cool high rise.  Amazing balcony view looking east about 2 and a half miles from the ocean right next to the New River.  Get to see boats going by our building all day long.  And there are plenty of flights nonstop between Atlanta and Fort Lauderdale everyday on Delta.  And pretty reasonably priced too.    

 

The Miami fans don't have much to say.  Because they know we have pretty much owned them for the last many years.  And seriously, how can you bash Josh Allen regardless of who you root for?!  And there are a lot of transplanted Buffalo fans in S Florida.  (the backup TE for the Dolphins Durham Smyth lives in my building.  Met him in the elevator one day.  One tall dude)   

Nicely orchestrated by a couple great Bills fans. Just imagining watching the Bills with my favorite beverage with boats passing in the background. Not too bad. Little concerned with the lack of activity in FA with Rogers and an improved Dolphins team in the AFCE. 

[Araiza Curse]

13 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Avg means jack. The fact the hit goes up in future years makes spending more now important. Lots of guys have been getting one year or short deals. 
 

and some how Mahomes with a bigger contract are still able to add $20m per players. 

This. We likely have 1-2 years to get this right. We need to do everything in our power to get a 1B WR to pair next to Diggs. If that means trading Ed or someone else to make that happen, you do it. This is the year to do it. We have to find ways to out gun Cinci and KC. 

[Shanahan's Horseshoe]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I don't buy you either win it all or everything is failure. Of course the target should be winning it all. But it takes so much coming together to produce a Superbowl Champion. Including lady luck shining on you at key moments. 

YAY!  Let’s play for meaningless AFCE titles! It’s been 4 years.  The only aim should be a SB.  Good lord 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

YAY!  Let’s play for meaningless AFCE titles! It’s been 4 years.  The only aim should be a SB.  Good lord 

 

The only aim should be. I agree. But the idea that anything short of that should be classified as failure.... I mean I just don't think 31 teams fail each year. It isn't realistic.

[Shanahan's Horseshoe]

16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The only aim should be. I agree. But the idea that anything short of that should be classified as failure.... I mean I just don't think 31 teams fail each year. It isn't realistic.

Well it depends on how you fail.  If you have a bunch of injuries across the DL and all the guys you drafted in the 1st and 2nd rounds to get to the QB can’t sniff him I think that’s failure.  If you’ve only drafted 1 starting OL in 4 years and he’s horrible, that’s failure.  If your idea of giving Josh the best weapons to succeed is settling for Singletary, a FA RB, who is getting zero attention on the open market I think that’s failure. We’ve been to 1 AFCG in the last 4 years and got blown out.  That’s failure IMO

Edited March 18 by Shanahan's Horseshoe

[Chaos]

21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The only aim should be. I agree. But the idea that anything short of that should be classified as failure.... I mean I just don't think 31 teams fail each year. It isn't realistic.

Success for most sports fans is against expectations. For example, I am a big St. Bonnies basketball fan.  An A-10 title and/or a trip to the NCAA's is a successful season.  A bid to the NCAA tournament is not a successful year for North Carolina or Kentucky though. 

Its a bit different in the NFL.  Texans fan's are not going into next season expecting to win a super bowl.  Nor were Bills fans 10 years ago.   Its kudos to the McBeane regime that the have rasied the bar.  But the bar is raised. After the 2020 season, no one expected a regression to losing in the divisional round of the playoffs.  But due to 13 seconds we finished further back in 2021 season than the 2020 season.  However most fans were expecting at least a return to the championship game in 2022, and we fell well short of that goal, getting spanked in the divisional round.   The bar has been somewhat lowered now, most Bills fans will be happy to get to the AFC Championship game next year, and will consider a super bowl appearance a great season.   I think people start looking being upset with sports managements when they are realistically need to lower thier expectations in the near future.  So 31 teams don't feel.   Without reviewing the results, I would guess about 8 teams a year exceed expectations enough to consider the season a success.  

Edited March 18 by Chaos