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20 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

 

 

So Ja, should we play this on draft day.

Absolutely! I love it!

 

Now, if we could just put Beane’s face under the helmet, it would be perfect…😉

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16 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

But there still exists some concerning areas of the roster. RT and slot WR are areas of concern on offense 

 

Beane seems to have more faith in Spencer Brown than you and many of the fans on this board do. He consistently defends him by saying that his having back surgery and missing all of the Offseason while being knicked up through the season was the root of his problems.

 

I'm sure he'll bring in another Tackle in FA or the mid rounds of the Draft to be competition for Brown and at least be our swing Tackle off the bench to replace David Quessenberry. But he's not going out and signing some big name guy to a big contract to be an outright replacement.

 

And Slot WR? If you'd have said a 3rd and 4th Outside WR, I'd agree. But Khalil Shakir showed to be our best Slot WR last season in limited action and is due for more reps. Deonte Harty also plays Slot. We have no need for another Slot WR. That's why McKenzie was released after we signed Harty to replace him.

 

Slot is covered. We need more guys who can play on the boundary. We can't be in a situation like we were last year where if Diggs or Davis is banged up, we put out Jake Kumerow.

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A scrambling GM kicking the can down the road, trying to correct the frivolous overspending on FAs, doesn’t make a top GM.  So far, he’s sitting back and watching the FA pool dry up. A seriously injured Hardy, a guard from Dallas and bringing back one our own FAs is going to close the gap on KC and Cinn. Maybe overpaying  the punter and a special teamer is his defining off-season move. Once again this guy is setting the stage for Josh to have to pull a rabbit out of his rear end for us remain competitive. Are we trying to win a championship or trying to mark time until we get the new stadium.

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6 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Absolutely! I love it!

 

Now, if we could just put Beane’s face under the helmet, it would be perfect…😉


Hilarious.  It’s funny when I hear that ominous song on the Empire I always think of BB and the Cheats when they had Brady.

 

Now I think of the Raiders as that stadium looks like the Death Star.

 

Can’t you just hear BB and he sounds like this..

 

 

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18 hours ago, Rigotz said:

Tre White is fully healthy

What is your source of information for this? What does fully healthy mean? Does that mean he will play at his 2020 level of play? Or his late 2022 level of play?

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First I will say Beane is far from a top GM. While the other teams are improving or fixing holes in their roster, so far he's done little to fix anything. 

 

Second, I don't get this fan base at all. Many seem to have the attitude of "just happy to be here". Meaning you're just happy to have a playoff contender year in, year out after missing the playoffs for so long. Same with the stadium, most are just happy the Bills are staying. This fan base should expect more. 

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2 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

A scrambling GM kicking the can down the road, trying to correct the frivolous overspending on FAs, doesn’t make a top GM.  So far, he’s sitting back and watching the FA pool dry up. A seriously injured Hardy, a guard from Dallas and bringing back one our own FAs is going to close the gap on KC and Cinn. Maybe overpaying  the punter and a special teamer is his defining off-season move. Once again this guy is setting the stage for Josh to have to pull a rabbit out of his rear end for us remain competitive. Are we trying to win a championship or trying to mark time until we get the new stadium.

 

3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

First I will say Beane is far from a top GM. While the other teams are improving or fixing holes in their roster, so far he's done little to fix anything. 

 

Second, I don't get this fan base at all. Many seem to have the attitude of "just happy to be here". Meaning you're just happy to have a playoff contender year in, year out after missing the playoffs for so long. Same with the stadium, most are just happy the Bills are staying. This fan base should expect more. 

Been a rough offseason this far. Hoping there are some moves still to be made. But the sense seems to be we can just this thing back with a lessor team banking on better luck this year. 
 

Last year at this point I would not hesitate to put money down on a Bills Super Bowl. Now I am not sure we can win the East, let alone a Super Bowl. 

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1 minute ago, ngbills said:

 

Been a rough offseason this far. Hoping there are some moves still to be made. But the sense seems to be we can just this thing back with a lessor team banking on better luck this year. 
 

Last year at this point I would not hesitate to put money down on a Bills Super Bowl. Now I am not sure we can win the East, let alone a Super Bowl. 

That feeling is starting to get a lot of traction. The shame is Josh is being exposed to injury if he has to the offense.

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1 hour ago, Chaos said:

What is your source of information for this? What does fully healthy mean? Does that mean he will play at his 2020 level of play? Or his late 2022 level of play?

 

Yea fully healthy isn't the issue. Does he play like he is scared to commit as he did last year? If so he is the worst value player on the roster. If we get the old Tre back he is one of the best 4 players on the roster. At the moment it feels 50/50 to me.

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

 

Been a rough offseason this far. Hoping there are some moves still to be made. But the sense seems to be we can just this thing back with a lessor team banking on better luck this year. 
 

Last year at this point I would not hesitate to put money down on a Bills Super Bowl. Now I am not sure we can win the East, let alone a Super Bowl. 

 

We will still win the East as long as Josh is healthy. We are still the best team. I am very confident of that. 

 

But we are further away from a Superbowl than we felt a year ago. It sucks that 2022 was so injury affected because it really was the optimum year to do it. That said, a year ago lots were predicting a down year of sorts for KC but they nailed another draft their 2nd year players took another step and they ended up winning it all. So while I agree the offseason has been uninspiring thus far I am not pressing the panic button yet.

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1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

First I will say Beane is far from a top GM. While the other teams are improving or fixing holes in their roster, so far he's done little to fix anything. 

 

Second, I don't get this fan base at all. Many seem to have the attitude of "just happy to be here". Meaning you're just happy to have a playoff contender year in, year out after missing the playoffs for so long. Same with the stadium, most are just happy the Bills are staying. This fan base should expect more. 

 

I'm not like that.  I lived through the '90's, somehow.  I won't die with any sense of peace unless we get a title.

 

I'm curious what your expectations were for this FA. We started way over cap. We cleared space, but we've spent what we created on a starting guard and a WR who will contribute, and maybe we have enough left for another mid-level starter or depth.

 

Would you have rather used that money on one player who was at more of an elite level?  I'm not sure how much more Beane could have done here.  My expectations were low, because we made a big splash last offseason, and I knew we didn't have cash.

 

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7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea fully healthy isn't the issue. Does he play like he is scared to commit as he did last year? If so he is the worst value player on the roster. If we get the old Tre back he is one of the best 4 players on the roster. At the moment it feels 50/50 to me.

 

We will still win the East as long as Josh is healthy. We are still the best team. I am very confident of that. 

 

But we are further away from a Superbowl than we felt a year ago. It sucks that 2022 was so injury affected because it really was the optimum year to do it. That said, a year ago lots were predicting a down year of sorts for KC but they nailed another draft their 2nd year players took another step and they ended up winning it all. So while I agree the offseason has been uninspiring thus far I am not pressing the panic button yet.

We need a draft like KC had last year. 

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3 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

A scrambling GM kicking the can down the road, trying to correct the frivolous overspending on FAs, doesn’t make a top GM.  So far, he’s sitting back and watching the FA pool dry up. A seriously injured Hardy, a guard from Dallas and bringing back one our own FAs is going to close the gap on KC and Cinn. Maybe overpaying  the punter and a special teamer is his defining off-season move. Once again this guy is setting the stage for Josh to have to pull a rabbit out of his rear end for us remain competitive. Are we trying to win a championship or trying to mark time until we get the new stadium.

Perfectly said 

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Again. I’m going to go back to beanes end of year presser. You could sense / it was a completely diff tone /vibe he gave off Writing was on the wall. The Super Bowl window run was :13 kc. They got hot at the right time w Allen and daboll. And mcdermott / Frazier defense and special teams choked it away

 

last year Von hurt and a lot of bad stuff happened. But they were going to lose to cincy even if Von played. 
 

I wasn’t expecting anything this FA. This is a talent acquisition business. He must HIT on the draft. And he must HIT on flyer / diamond in the rough players. 
 

so far McGovern and Harty are exactly the start to the latter process. Not signing edmunds was the RIGHT move.

 

they better have a player in Bernard 

 

it’s gonna take this and next years draft AND to absolutely crush it 

 

and Allen has to ascend to mahommes mvp level. That’s it. There’s no secret here 

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33 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea fully healthy isn't the issue. Does he play like he is scared to commit as he did last year? If so he is the worst value player on the roster. If we get the old Tre back he is one of the best 4 players on the roster. At the moment it feels 50/50 to me.

 

We will still win the East as long as Josh is healthy. We are still the best team. I am very confident of that. 

 

But we are further away from a Superbowl than we felt a year ago. It sucks that 2022 was so injury affected because it really was the optimum year to do it. That said, a year ago lots were predicting a down year of sorts for KC but they nailed another draft their 2nd year players took another step and they ended up winning it all. So while I agree the offseason has been uninspiring thus far I am not pressing the panic button yet.

We will win the east. However even if we go 17-0, we won't know if any improvements made matter until the divisional round of the playoffs. 17-0 would be a blast, but it will take patience to get to the real answer. 

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Inner thought. Not sure if I believe this, but…

 

Damar injury changed the mindset of this team and coaching staff. How many times did we hear stuff like this is just a game, there things more important than football, etc. We heard way more of that than win for Damar or similar. So the question is did this team lose an edge? Is the commitment to winning less important than life and family? 
Diggs has publicly said he is not sure he handled the Damar situation right. He was the one person saying the game must go on. He left the locker room alone in what seemed awkward. Did that cause a divide? Is that the root of issues with the team? Is he questioning the desire to win?

Couple this with Kim Pegula. Is the organization as a whole less concerned about winning? Had an awakening that winning us not everything? 
While all true not great for a fan hoping to have his team win a Super Bowl. Everyone just seems down and without saying it that a Super Bowl is no longer goal 1. 

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11 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Inner thought. Not sure if I believe this, but…

 

Damar injury changed the mindset of this team and coaching staff. How many times did we hear stuff like this is just a game, there things more important than football, etc. We heard way more of that than win for Damar or similar. So the question is did this team lose an edge? Is the commitment to winning less important than life and family? 
Diggs has publicly said he is not sure he handled the Damar situation right. He was the one person saying the game must go on. He left the locker room alone in what seemed awkward. Did that cause a divide? Is that the root of issues with the team? Is he questioning the desire to win?

Couple this with Kim Pegula. Is the organization as a whole less concerned about winning? Had an awakening that winning us not everything? 
While all true not great for a fan hoping to have his team win a Super Bowl. Everyone just seems down and without saying it that a Super Bowl is no longer goal 1. 

Yea I mean it was REAL shhit / atypical off-field and on field tragedies. 
 

diggs did just force his way/ had to prove who he said he was thru security  into the UCincy hospital after the game to be bedside tho. 

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