Is it just me or do we always let offenses convert 3rd downs on us?

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:36 PM, HOUSE said:

We are not good on critical down and distance. Personally, I think it has a lot to do with no Micha Hyde

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The loss of Micah and Von has affected this defense more than we'll ever know.  Also when you run a soft nickel zone, teams can easily find seams.

[cgg716]

It happens every game, even yesterday, which was one of the D’S better outings. It’s a fraiser thing, has been for years. It’s why I’m highly critical of him

[Boatdrinks]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:55 PM, cgg716 said:

It happens every game, even yesterday, which was one of the D’S better outings. It’s a fraiser thing, has been for years. It’s why I’m highly critical of him

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So overall ppg allowed and overall 3rd down defense aren’t that important to you, but some third and 10+ conversions are ? 

[stevestojan]

Nope, you’re just like me and finally used to a team that is competent. So, stopping a team on third down just seems like the thing they should do every time. 
 

And therefore when they don’t stop them (which happens to every team and every defense) it really stands out in our minds. 

[GunnerBill]

6th best in the NFL and 4/16 yesterday. The Bills are good on 3rd down. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

What everyone is feeling is that this team gives up probably a higher percentage of third and fourth and long conversions than is normal. 
 

I kind of wonder if it is almost harder for them to be in that third and long situation—  it is similar to playing prevent. You are almost playing too much on your heels. 

[cgg716]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:59 PM, Boatdrinks said:

So overall ppg allowed and overall 3rd down defense aren’t that important to you, but some third and 10+ conversions are ? 

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In every big loss it creeps up, I don’t care how often they stop Mac Jones. Minnesota it was laughably bad, Miami scored on 3rd and 22. It gets glossed over in wins, but happened multiple times yesterday too, and asi said, that was one of their better games

[GunnerBill]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:59 PM, Boatdrinks said:

So overall ppg allowed and overall 3rd down defense aren’t that important to you, but some third and 10+ conversions are ? 

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Forget facts. It's 2023. Feelings are king. 

[HOUSE]

  On 1/16/2023 at 6:05 PM, GunnerBill said:

6th best in the NFL and 4/16 yesterday. The Bills are good on 3rd down. 

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5th would be better

[FireChans]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:55 PM, cgg716 said:

It happens every game, even yesterday, which was one of the D’S better outings. It’s a fraiser thing, has been for years. It’s why I’m highly critical of him

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[GolfandBills]

They’ve given up quite a bit of 3rd and longs but overall they rank fairly high in 3rd down defense 

Edited January 16, 2023 by GolfandBills

[GunnerBill]

  On 1/16/2023 at 6:06 PM, HOUSE said:

5th would be better

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"We're gonna be number 1 in defense, I can guarantee you that."

[stevestojan]

  On 1/16/2023 at 6:09 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

"We're gonna be number 1 in defense, I can guarantee you that."

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Ugh, was that Rex Ryan?

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:36 PM, HOUSE said:

We are not good on critical down and distance. Personally, I think it has a lot to do with no Micha Hyde

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But... that isn't a clever quip... 

 

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:50 PM, HOUSE said:

This is a jersey color issue and the main reason it is posted every Wednesday 

 

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That's better. I thought maybe you hadn't put the whiskey in your coffee this morning.

 

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:52 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Only when it's over 15 yards.  Under that we don't bother, we just stop them.  The long ones we like to give them.

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So... Bills opponents... should actually try losing yardage on 1st and 2nd down?

 

😊

 

 

[zow2]

When you watch the other games, you realize a lot of teams give up 3rd and longs,,it's not unique to the Bills.

[Green Lightning]

  On 1/16/2023 at 5:41 PM, Ramza86 said:

 

I guess this makes more sense to what im feeling. 

Its always a big 3rd down that gets converted and just kills me. lol

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Unless it's 3rd and long. Like to see a stat on hiw many 3rd and more than 12 yards we give up. 

[Boatdrinks]

  On 1/16/2023 at 6:16 PM, zow2 said:

When you watch the other games, you realize a lot of teams give up 3rd and longs,,it's not unique to the Bills.

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Chalk it up to other teams have NFL players and they make plays vs the Bills sometimes too, just not a lot of ‘em. 

[cgg716]

  On 1/16/2023 at 6:07 PM, FireChans said:

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And they still gave up a 3rd and 19, and 2nd and 18, which was responsible for 10 pts… still happened, even in a pretty good outing for them. But I look forward to the D giving up 40 next week, and you blaming Josh for it

[pigpen65]

The 4th and 8 they converted on the missed Milano tackle then the missed Edmunds tackle was weak

[FireChans]

  On 1/16/2023 at 6:22 PM, cgg716 said:

And they still gave up a 3rd and 19, and 2nd and 18, which was responsible for 10 pts… still happened, even in a pretty good outing for them. But I look forward to the D giving up 40 next week, and you blaming Josh for it

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If Josh has 2 picks and 3 fumbles, one of them for 6, I will blame him for it.

 

Incredible that 2 picks and 3 fumbles are handwaved and 4/16 is handwaved.  It's fun living in an alternative reality, huh