All_Pro_Bills Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 35 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Residing over DOJ that really threw him under the bus yesterday And I’m not saying the DOJ is wrong either on Biden I think they presented it in the best possible way by demonstrating they performed a credible investigation while making some remarks and observations to show a degree of balance and objectivity. Personally, I had no expectation of anything else. I'm not a big fan of these document classification issues. Annually the US government classifies around 34 million documents as secret or confidential. I wonder who they're hiding all this info from. I think it's us. Edited February 9 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 29 minutes ago, Chaos said: Hang your hat on believing that. Bank Robbers don't avoid charges by returning the money. Except that’s not how any of this works Trump would not have been charged if he just would’ve returned the documents when asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 On 1/10/2023 at 8:27 AM, Tiberius said: Kudos to you for this prescient take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 13 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Kudos to you for this prescient take. Thanks for that. The nothingburger is a staple food around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Democrats Spun Biden’s Classified Docs As ‘Six Items,’ But Special Counsel Report Reveals It Was 300-Plus by Margot Cleveland Thursday’s bombshell report by Special Counsel Robert Hur concluded that “President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.” And though the material concerned “issues of national security and foreign policy implicating sensitive intelligence sources and methods,” and presented “serious risks to national security,” Hur recommended against charging Biden in his 380-plus-page report, saying it would be “difficult to convince a jury” to convict such “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” https://thefederalist.com/2024/02/09/democrats-spun-bidens-classified-docs-as-six-items-but-special-counsel-report-reveals-it-was-300-plus/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Thanks for that. The nothingburger is a staple food around here He's senile=nothing burger? Bury you head deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 56 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: It is. That's why the left's only defense (mechanism) is to (laughably) claim he didn't know he had the classified materials. But they know he knew he had the materials all along and never gave them back. You want a case study in denial, this is it. Edited February 11 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) BTW, I see the left is trying to gaslight everyone by claiming Trump is as senile as Joke. Then again, if they succeed, that means Trump can't be tried for the documents, right? Right? Edited February 11 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Spillage from a SCIF... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: shocking! The Hur report is the powers that be signaling its time for Biden to go. Look no further than outlets like NBC calling out the dementia and keeping classified docs in his home after ignoring these issues previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/9/2024 at 5:10 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: I think they presented it in the best possible way by demonstrating they performed a credible investigation while making some remarks and observations to show a degree of balance and objectivity. Personally, I had no expectation of anything else. I'm not a big fan of these document classification issues. Annually the US government classifies around 34 million documents as secret or confidential. I wonder who they're hiding all this info from. I think it's us. As someone who worked with those documents all the way up to the highest level, it’s not the amount of the documents. That’s the problem it’s what level of classification may have been lying around. For instance, I saw top-secret SCI cover pages in those documents that were found at Trump’s place you don’t want those laying around at all as matter fact I shouldn’t be anywhere, but in a skiff To be fair in all of this, we didn’t get to see what the classification was of the documents that were in Biden’s possession you could assume that they were probably classified at near or the highest level For instance, confidential would not be as damaging as secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: To be fair in all of this, we didn’t get to see what the classification was of the documents that were in Biden’s possession you could assume that they were probably classified at near or the highest level On several occasions you pretended that you read the report. You must have skipped over the part about classification level. A painful report for Biden: Hur laid out in detail how Biden mishandled classified materials, writing that FBI agents discovered materials from “the garage, offices, and basement den in Mr. Biden’s Wilmington, Delaware, home.” The materials included classified documents, including some marked at the highest top secret/sensitive compartmented information level, related to military and foreign policy in Afghanistan, as well as notebooks containing Biden's handwriting. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-classified-documents-report-02-08-24/index.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: On several occasions you pretended that you read the report. You must have skipped over the part about classification level. A painful report for Biden: Hur laid out in detail how Biden mishandled classified materials, writing that FBI agents discovered materials from “the garage, offices, and basement den in Mr. Biden’s Wilmington, Delaware, home.” The materials included classified documents, including some marked at the highest top secret/sensitive compartmented information level, related to military and foreign policy in Afghanistan, as well as notebooks containing Biden's handwriting. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-classified-documents-report-02-08-24/index.html Citing the report itself isn't fair to JFR or any other useful idiot. How dare you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: shocking! It didn't obscure it: they're still maintaining that he had no idea he had the documents and/or has been senile since at least 2017 and thus couldn't remember he had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Doc said: It didn't obscure it: they're still maintaining that he had no idea he had the documents and/or has been senile since at least 2017 and thus couldn't remember he had them. 91-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 He gave them all back when asked. All good. Here’s the single most important piece of evidence in Hur’s report: In a recording made by the ghostwriter in February 2017 — a month after Biden left the vice-presidency — Biden says he had “just found all the classified stuff downstairs.” That, folks, is the needle-scratch moment. Up until last week, the party line has essentially been, “Hey, classified documents are strewn all around the White House, a bunch of boxes got moved around, transition is chaotic, documents end up in various places; big mistake, whoops, sorry.” Now we know that’s untrue. Indeed, for the past year, the president and his mouthpieces have doggedly denied intentionality. Biden’s attorney declared in January 2023, as the scandal broke, that “documents were inadvertently misplaced.” Wrong. It wasn’t “inadvertent”: Biden possessed at least some of the papers knowingly and on purpose. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre saidBiden did not know that classified documents were in his home or office and had no idea what they contained. False and false. Biden himself said he was “surprised to learn there were any government records that were taken there to that office” in Washington D.C. This is misdirection at best. Perhaps Biden was surprised that classified documents wound up at that specific location, but he sure as hell knew (and omitted) that he had classified documents elsewhere, at his home (“downstairs,” to be specific). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The excuse of why not to prosecute Joe Biden sounds eerily familiar to the excuse they gave about why not to prosecute Hillary Clinton… If you recall, both were found to have committed many crimes, but the authorities didn’t “feel” a jury would convict… Ummm, why don’t we let a jury decide, instead of deciding for them? Crazy concept, I know… Meanwhile Trump is prosecuted at every turn…Now, he may or may not be guilty of the crimes he’s being charged with, but clearly, the authorities have no problem going after him, regardless, unlike the other politicians who have done similar things… I remember late in W. Bush’s second term, there was serious contemplation on whether or not to impeach him, on the grounds of war crimes because of his torture program…Obviously, the government opted not to, because the Establishment wanted the next guy to continue that very same torture program… So the optics clearly appear to be that the Establishment protects the Establishment…And if you don’t go along with the Deep State agenda, the entire “machine” will come for you… 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Do as I say not as I do, because I’m a confused old man: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, US Egg said: Do as I say not as I do, because I’m a confused old man: Except he wasn't President when he stole his classified documents. Edited February 19 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 19 hours ago, JaCrispy said: The excuse of why not to prosecute Joe Biden sounds eerily familiar to the excuse they gave about why not to prosecute Hillary Clinton… I remember late in W. Bush’s second term, there was serious contemplation on whether or not to impeach him, on the grounds of war crimes because of his torture program…Obviously, the government opted not to, because the Establishment wanted the next guy to continue that very same torture program… Any impeachment process using enhanced interrogation as a focus would have been squashed the second that Congressional Intel oversight Committees figured out that if was attempted, records of their complicity would have exposed. They were briefed, though some denied it. In fact, she, Nancy Pelosi, used the same excuse Biden did. "It wasn't me. I didn't know. It was my staff." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Doc said: Except he wasn't President when he stole his classified documents. He wanted them to back stab Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, US Egg said: He wanted them to back stab Obama. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 👆 these idiots NEVER EVER THINK - lmao 👆 As president, Trump approved a law increasing penalties for mishandling classified info. It could come back to bite him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Doc said: How so? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 91-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 If they go ahead with the documents case against Trump, then the R's will impeach Biden. Then we'll see if the Senate has the sack to convict him of an obvious crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 But Trump had boxes out in the open at Mar a Lago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: But Trump had boxes out in the open at Mar a Lago! Yeah but that's different because he gave it back as soon as he knew... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 These clowns don’t have a thread of integrity in their body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Seems pretty typical Biden behavior to me. What Biden Did With Aides Connected to Classified Docs After Hur Report Release Is Raising Big Questions By Nick Arama One of the things that has been most shameful about Joe Biden's classified documents scandal was how he said he didn't have any idea how the docs got all over his house and in his offices. He has tried to blame his staff, including during his interview with Special Counsel Robert Hur's team. That's just ridiculous as an excuse -- the documents were all over his house and his offices, even his garage. Not to mention that he had material from when he was in the Senate. So this has been going on for decades. Plus, he had notes with some of the classified documents, and he told his ghostwriter about the classified documents in 2017. The common element there is Joe Biden. Not some staffer. But it's typical Joe Biden who never wants to take responsibility for anything he does wrong and there were all kinds of problems with his actions here. It turns out that within 24 hours of the release of Special Counsel Robert Hur's report, Joe Biden promoted two of the aides whose names came up in regard to the classified documents. What a coincidence. https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/03/16/biden-promotes-aides-connected-to-movement-of-classified-docs-n2171476 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I’m assuming that the people who still think Biden committed a crime with his possession of documents also agree that Trump committed way worse crimes in his documents case. I mean, given the facts of the cases, to believe that Biden committed crimes but Trump didn’t would require being completely divorced from reality… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I’m assuming that the people who still think Biden committed a crime with his possession of documents also agree that Trump committed way worse crimes in his documents case. I mean, given the facts of the cases, to believe that Biden committed crimes but Trump didn’t would require being completely divorced from reality… I want consistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I want consistency Well, you’ve got it. Elected officials who take things that don’t belong to them but return them when asked don’t get prosecuted. Elected officials who take things that don’t belong to them but refuse to return them when asked to return them get prosecuted. Easy-peasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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