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Last week we learned that Biden had retained classified documents in his phony baloney Penn Biden office and at his Wilmington residence.

 

We don’t know what the documents are or what they were doing there. We only know he shouldn’t have had them in his possession.

 

We await the kind of photographic spread the Department of Justice laid out for public consumption in the Trump case.

 

We know the documents were discovered by Biden’s lawyers, or so they have told us. Indeed, we only know what Biden’s lawyers have told us.

 

We don’t know how his lawyers happened to discover the documents or what they were looking for.

 

We don’t know why they all kept the discovery secret until the leak let the cat out of the bag.

 

We know that Biden takes classified documents seriously. We know because he has told us so. In other words, we don’t know it at all. He takes classified documents seriously but not literally, or something like that.

 

Late last week Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a Special Counsel to keep a lid on the matter. Now everyone who knows anything can cite the Special Counsel investigation to justify his or her silence.

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/01/lying-well-is-the-best-revenge.php

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

plagiarising Neil Kinnock was stupid and done a long time ago.  No one but biden was hurt.  It pales in comparison to lying 1000's of times while in office, including about the most deadly pandemic in our lifetime.  I doubt kinnock was that upset especially compared to critically ill people who initially had no idea what was making them sick.  On the other hand, his friends were happy to buy stock in zoom.  No comparison in character between biden and trump.

you know jill was his kids babysitter?

Biden has 50 years of lying and horrible votes and positions.  His Urban Jungle comment about segregated schools?  support and push to get votes for prison reform that put millions in prison for nonviolent and victimless crimes.

 

Trump is a thin-skinned narcissist. but only had 4 years of BS and was investigated many times.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

plagiarising Neil Kinnock was stupid and done a long time ago.  No one but biden was hurt.  It pales in comparison to lying 1000's of times while in office, including about the most deadly pandemic in our lifetime.  I doubt kinnock was that upset especially compared to critically ill people who initially had no idea what was making them sick.  On the other hand, his friends were happy to buy stock in zoom.  No comparison in character between biden and trump.

Do you believe that Biden is a good person?

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14 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

you know jill was his kids babysitter?

Biden has 50 years of lying and horrible votes and positions.  His Urban Jungle comment about segregated schools?  support and push to get votes for prison reform that put millions in prison for nonviolent and victimless crimes.

 

Trump is a thin-skinned narcissist. but only had 4 years of BS and was investigated many times.

 

 

context matters:  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/29/viral-image/biden-said-without-orderly-integration-his-childre/

Wasn't he a widower when he met Jill?  https://www.newsweek.com/does-photo-show-family-babysitter-jill-joe-biden-fact-check-1764609

 

I don't have to embellish criticisms of trump

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18 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

plagiarising Neil Kinnock was stupid and done a long time ago.  No one but biden was hurt.  It pales in comparison to lying 1000's of times while in office, including about the most deadly pandemic in our lifetime.  I doubt kinnock was that upset especially compared to critically ill people who initially had no idea what was making them sick.  On the other hand, his friends were happy to buy stock in zoom.  No comparison in character between biden and trump.

Trump is an awful individual. No argument there. By the same token Biden has yet to come across a lie he won’t tell, including truly heinous lies about the circumstances of his wife and daughter being killed. Why won’t Biden recognize his granddaughter? The guy has decades of abhorrent behavior on record for the world to see. No need to engage in whataboutism. They are both cretins. 

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3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Trump is an awful individual. No argument there. By the same token Biden has yet to come across a lie he won’t tell, including truly heinous lies about the circumstances of his wife and daughter being killed. Why won’t Biden recognize his granddaughter? The guy has decades of abhorrent behavior on record for the world to see. No need to engage in whataboutism. They are both cretins. 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/04/social-media-posts-are-making-claims-about-biden-f/

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from the PolitiFact link. Thank you for serving this up. Now tell us all why this is different. @redtail hawk
 

Investigators found that alcohol didn’t play a role in the crash, according to a 2008 News Journal story. Dunn, who died in 1999, was not charged. But, the paper reported, Biden has suggested that Dunn was intoxicated when the crash occurred. 

In 2007, Biden, then the vice presidential nominee, said that a "guy who allegedly … drank his lunch" drove the truck that collided with Neilia Biden’s car. A clip from 2001 showed Biden describing the incident and saying the driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."

 

36 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

plagiarising Neil Kinnock was stupid and done a long time ago.  No one but biden was hurt.  It pales in comparison to lying 1000's of times while in office, including about the most deadly pandemic in our lifetime.  I doubt kinnock was that upset especially compared to critically ill people who initially had no idea what was making them sick.  On the other hand, his friends were happy to buy stock in zoom.  No comparison in character between biden and trump.

A decent man would not respond like this. He’s a wretched creature of Washington so he’s got plenty of company. 
 

The granddaughter…can you mount a defense for this decent man?

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17 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

 

No, but you have no problem swallowing the lies made up out of thin air.

 

Trump has had his life and narcissistic personality on full display since the friggin 80's.  From the USFL....to the Apprentice..to his White House run...there's not a single person who didn't know what an outrageous boob Trump has always been.

 

But being a blowhard nitwit doesn't mean it's ok to spy on his campaign and make up ***** in a constant effort to take him down.

 

In other words you're allowed to be a unlikable blowhard a-hole and still run for President.  See Joe Biden.

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1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

Trump is a spiteful POS. You realize my quote was exactly what Biden said about Trump docs, right?  Uncle Joe normalized plagiarism for me. :)

I disagree with you on the relative POSedness comparing Biden to Trump and Trump to Biden.  At best, they are on equal footing in that department.  Trump leveraged his name and brand for self-aggrandizement, Biden leveraged the weight, power and worst tendencies of our system to target disadvantaged communities through legislation.  Trump b*nged supermodels and socialites, stating truthfully that some women allow certain things in certain situations.  Biden groped women for decades, was credibly accused of violent sexual assault, and when he ultimately apologized for his groping, he implied the women he harmed didn't understand he meant no harm.   

 

I believe Trump made a significant tactical error in holding on to those files, though I would bet it is pretty common (so far, Clinton and Biden have had similar issues with this sort of thing, and we've only really looked at three individuals).  His error was not recognizing when there is an all-out assault to destroy an individual, nothing is off the table.  He should not have had the files in the first place, and certainly should have understood that what followed likely would follow, and should have expected just about anything could happen.  

 

That said--Biden has been a member of the establishment class for decades.  He's been protected as such, he's run with white supremacists and notorious leches, lied, blustered, and become incredibly wealthy without much speculation on where and how his money was earned.   Remember, he ran in circles where a senator could drive off a bridge after a drunken binge, leave a woman to die in his car, disappear for 10 or 11 hours, make up an absurd story about his actions, and throughout multiple dalliances thereafter, was ultimately lionized as a great American statesman.  That sort of hero worship has to impact an individual on some level.  This is just who Biden is, why would he ever feel that something as innocuous as national security was something he needed to spend time fretting over?   "Throw that box over near the Valvoline, it'll be fine!". 

 

Trump, on the other hand, was under constant assault from the left and their supporters.  Russia was bs.  Ukraine was bs.  Media reporting on both ended up being a ton of bs.  The country rioted, cities burned, people died and Washington barely registered a raised eyebrow.  He watched as a decent and noble public servant was branded a serial sexual predator simply because the system allowed. 

 

So, Trump is Trump, and that's a fair part of the overall conversation as to trustworthiness and character.  Still, part of me thinks Trump took the files knowing full well the all-out assault would continue in perpetuity, and kept documents that might be useful to him later on.   In a perfect world of honorable individuals and a do-the-right thing frame of mind, that wouldn't be necessary.   Washington DC may be the farthest place from that Utopia imaginable. 

 

 

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Hilarious watching these idiots compare Trump and Biden.

 

Americans had a choice and picked the lesser of two evils.

 

The fat lady already sang.

 

The real question is - is anyone above the law?

 

Notice the freaks won’t touch that… because they victimize Jesus Trump.


 

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3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Hilarious watching these idiots compare Trump and Biden.

 

Americans had a choice and picked the lesser of two evils.

 

The fat lady already sang.

 

The real question is - is anyone above the law?

 

Notice the freaks won’t touch that… because they victimize Jesus Trump.


 

Trump should not be above the law, nor should Biden. 

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57 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Trump should not be above the law, nor should Biden. 

They are, though, Ten, and that existed long before Trump was elected to anything. 
 

The argument that somehow Biden was a “hold your nose” pick by people like BillSy  is hysterical.  

 

 He’s been a major player for decades, and offered a progressive agenda to his base.  There was nothing unknown about the guy, his ethical, emotional peccadilloes were well established and well accepted.  He was THE guy. 

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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

They are, though, Ten, and that existed long before Trump was elected to anything. 
 

The argument that somehow Biden was a “hold your nose” pick by people like BillSy  is hysterical.  

 

 He’s been a major player for decades, and offered a progressive agenda to his base.  There was nothing unknown about the guy, his ethical, emotional peccadilloes were well established and well accepted.  He was THE guy. 

More like he is the guy who climb the greasy pole. Survived the primary. He was running against Trump, so of course you vote for the guy who is obviously the much lesser evil. Much, much lesser 

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9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

They are, though, Ten, and that existed long before Trump was elected to anything. 
 

The argument that somehow Biden was a “hold your nose” pick by people like BillSy  is hysterical.  

 

 He’s been a major player for decades, and offered a progressive agenda to his base.  There was nothing unknown about the guy, his ethical, emotional peccadilloes were well established and well accepted.  He was THE guy. 


👆🤣😂🤣😂🤣 - Nonsense.

 

Absolute fn nonsense

This was nothing more than a lesser of two evils pick and Trump lost in a landslide.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Doc said:

This Admin has been the disaster most of us knew it would be.  Many people might have thought they were voting for the lesser of 2 evils, but they got the far greater one.

Disaster? What, the low unemployment numbers are a bad thing? Putin being checked? Democracy saved at home and abroad? 

 

Just terrible! 

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30 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Disaster? What, the low unemployment numbers are a bad thing? Putin being checked? Democracy saved at home and abroad? 

 

Just terrible! 

Ya gotta love this. Trump is President for FOUR YEARS and Putin attacks nobody. Biden is President for a little over a year and Putin attacks a sovereign country….and somehow it’s Biden that’s keeping “Putin checked”? Okie Dokie 

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1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Ya gotta love this. Trump is President for FOUR YEARS and Putin attacks nobody. Biden is President for a little over a year and Putin attacks a sovereign country….and somehow it’s Biden that’s keeping “Putin checked”? Okie Dokie 

And Putin gets defeated. Putin loved Trump, he wasn't going to upset the apple cart with him there. So ya, good thing we had Biden

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

More like he is the guy who climb the greasy pole. Survived the primary. He was running against Trump, so of course you vote for the guy who is obviously the much lesser evil. Much, much lesser 

Tibs, your thought's on  Biden's greasy pole is your business. 

 

All I can tell you is people vote their best interests, and the leadership of the party generally puts the candidate up that they feel inspires their voter base.  Clearly, the base was energized in spite of the fact that Biden's worst tendencies as a politician actually mirror the complaints you have about Trump as an individual.  

 

It's ok that you wanted him, you owe no one an explanation. 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

And Putin gets defeated. Putin loved Trump, he wasn't going to upset the apple cart with him there. So ya, good thing we had Biden

If you think that makes any sense at all then you’ve officially lost your mind. (Must be the lack of wings and eggs. 😉)

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2 hours ago, BillStime said:


👆🤣😂🤣😂🤣 - Nonsense.

 

Absolute fn nonsense

This was nothing more than a lesser of two evils pick and Trump lost in a landslide.

 

 

BillSy, you're punching at shadows in the night.  If you feel compelled to explain your thought process to me, you lack intestinal fortitude in a major way.  You voted for who you wanted, who really cares?  I support your right to choose the agenda that enhances your life. 

 

I will say, however, it's not uncommon for folks to reimagine why they voted the way they voted when faced their own hypocrisy.  You're against "stop the steal", you're for  allegations of "illegitimate elections".  You're against tyranny and overreach, you're for doors getting kicked in.   

 

The way I see it, all of you chumps trying to reinvent reasons you 'Rode with Joe' probably thought the game was over--because after Trump gets his doors kicked in and Biden gets on his soapbox, it would be almost inconceivable that Biden would have 4 count 'em 4 count 'em 4 separate incidents of illegally handling top secret material.  All you needed to do was pay attention, BillSy, this is classic Joe, and that you're surprised by it speak volumes about your intellect. 

 

Btw, when he completely &*^%ed up the most basic duty of an American leader-----your Landslide President became your Mudslide President, sh*tting all over the chumps who thought they were above justifying illegal behavior.  It's awesome. 

 

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1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

BillSy, you're punching at shadows in the night.  If you feel compelled to explain your thought process to me, you lack intestinal fortitude in a major way.  You voted for who you wanted, who really cares?  I support your right to choose the agenda that enhances your life. 

 

I will say, however, it's not uncommon for folks to reimagine why they voted the way they voted when faced their own hypocrisy.  You're against "stop the steal", you're for  allegations of "illegitimate elections".  You're against tyranny and overreach, you're for doors getting kicked in.   

 

The way I see it, all of you chumps trying to reinvent reasons you 'Rode with Joe' probably thought the game was over--because after Trump gets his doors kicked in and Biden gets on his soapbox, it would be almost inconceivable that Biden would have 4 count 'em 4 count 'em 4 separate incidents of illegally handling top secret material.  All you needed to do was pay attention, BillSy, this is classic Joe, and that you're surprised by it speak volumes about your intellect. 

 

Btw, when he completely &*^%ed up the most basic duty of an American leader-----your Landslide President became your Mudslide President, sh*tting all over the chumps who thought they were above justifying illegal behavior.  It's awesome. 

 

:w00t:


You just can’t stomach what a truly horrible human Donald Trump is and want so badly for the world to hate Biden as much as they *really* do hate Trump.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BillStime said:


You just can’t stomach what a truly horrible human Donald Trump is and want so badly for the world to hate Biden as much as they *really* do hate Trump.

 

 

I don't hate, son, it's really not in my DNA.  I don't hate Joe Biden, but I know his history.  I don't hate Trump, but I understand why you and others might.  

 

All I can tell you is that of you pay attention, you don't find yourself tangled up in a knot explaining why keeping top secret intelligence on the garage floor just because own a classic Corvette makes it safe.  

 

What Joe Biden did was completely predictable, and your defense of him was as well. That's the funny part.  

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5 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

plagiarising Neil Kinnock was stupid and done a long time ago.  No one but biden was hurt.  It pales in comparison to lying 1000's of times while in office, including about the most deadly pandemic in our lifetime.  I doubt kinnock was that upset especially compared to critically ill people who initially had no idea what was making them sick.  On the other hand, his friends were happy to buy stock in zoom.  No comparison in character between biden and trump.

The fact that you feel Biden is a good guy tells me that you need some intelligent friends. No one with an ounce of awareness argues he is a high character guy, or an honest guy, they simply argue he is better than Trump. I disagree but Trump is not a good guy either.

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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I don't hate, son, it's really not in my DNA.  I don't hate Joe Biden, but I know his history.  I don't hate Trump, but I understand why you and others might.  

 

All I can tell you is that of you pay attention, you don't find yourself tangled up in a knot explaining why keeping top secret intelligence on the garage floor just because own a classic Corvette makes it safe.  

 

What Joe Biden did was completely predictable, and your defense of him was as well. That's the funny part.  


I’m not defending Biden on this issue so please go back to substantiate where I am…

 

It is nice to see you finally admit the national security risks of Trump storing 300+ classified documents in his pedo motel frequented by trash and Chinese nationalists.


Keep trying precious 

 

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2 minutes ago, BillStime said:


I’m not defending Biden on this issue so please go back to substantiate where I am…

 

It is nice to see you finally admit the national security risks of Trump storing 300+ classified documents in his pedo motel frequented by trash and Chinese nationalists.


Keep trying precious 

 

Sure you are, but you can reimagine that too.  Lots of people do that!  

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59 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The fact that you feel Biden is a good guy tells me that you need some intelligent friends. No one with an ounce of awareness argues he is a high character guy, or an honest guy, they simply argue he is better than Trump. I disagree but Trump is not a good guy either.


Joke’s fooled many people for decades. 

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7 hours ago, B-Man said:

We don’t know how his lawyers happened to discover the documents or what they were looking for.

 

This is a question I have and have not seen addressed anywhere.  Why were his private attorneys sifting through all his belongings?  Why would anyone do that?

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7 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

 

I thought Joe always commuted by Amtrak.

 

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"I was still commuting back and forth to Washington, usually by car, sometimes on Amtrak, and occasionally on the forty-minute flight from Washington National to the airport in Wilmington.

 

"This particular Friday, March 7, I saw in the airport terminal a newly mounted ad campaign for the New Castle County Park system; it was beauty shots of the county parks, with the same girl in a few of the photographs.

 

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10 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Geography matters, too.   I’m torn between pity for an aging man who after a full, exciting and occasionally tragic life simply lost track of where/when/how his son died, and thinking it would be just like Joe Biden to embellish a tragic story of personal loss for political purposes.  
https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/biden-wrongly-says-late-son-beau-lost-his-life-in-iraq/

 

“American soldiers of the 10th Mountain Division scaled that 1,800-foot cliff at night, caught the Germans by surprise, captured key positions, and broke through the German defense line at a pivotal point in the war,” the president said. “Just imagine — I mean it sincerely — I say this as a father of a man who won the Bronze Star, the Conspicuous Service Medal, and lost his life in Iraq. Imagine the courage, the daring, and the genuine sacrifice — genuine sacrifice they all made.”

 

 

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3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

From the link:

 

But the dogged efforts by Republican lawmakers and conservative media to demonize Biden’s son, Hunter, for his foreign business deals strike at Biden’s political brand, which is built on integrity. Biden promised to raise the standards of transparency and ethics at the White House. 
 

Actions of relatives complicate Biden’s high standard

 

A guy that has spent 5 decades lying through his teeth about everything imaginable has a brand built on integrity! Is that supposed to be satire?
 

As to the second bolded selection, these things just happen to Joe. He’s just a bystander that had nothing to do with fostering this behavior. Poor Joe.
 

Now, about the matter of this decent man refusing to acknowledge his own young granddaughter…

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:lol:

 

What absolute frauds the media are...

 

So in this piece they quote experts that call the Biden case "classified spillage"

 

Now if that isn't hilarious enough....what image do they use when they're explaining "classified spillage"?

 

They use the friggin leaked photo from Mar a lago of classified folders laid out on the floor!

 

So we're only left to conclude that's classified spillage too, right?

 

:lol:

 

What complete clown world frauds.

 

 

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