Greg S Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (10) Ian Rapoport on Twitter: "From NFL Now: Among the issues set to be discussed by the Competition Committee is whether roughing the passer should be reviewable. https://t.co/NNt245HfvG" / Twitter That call in the 3rd quarter of the Dolphins-Chargers game was a joke. That was a normal hit/sack. I am all for player safety but some of these calls are wrong. I would hate for a game to be decided on a bad call especially if it would cost the Bills a game. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I am of the mindset that everything should be reviewable, but it must be clear and obvious to overturn. That call was terrible in hindsight but to an official being blocked it would be hard to tell. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Likely pointless, unless the NFL or someone not the refs are the ones to review it. Remember when PI was challengable? They refused to overturn even the most obvious calls. I don't see this being any different. 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) If they were to do this, it would have to be a New York call like they do for “easy call” corrections I’m real time. BTW, those have been great. If we leave it to the ref to admit he made a mistake, it’ll be the whole PI review thing all over again. They will never overturn a call they made. Like he said 👆 Edited December 14, 2022 by DaggersEOD Poster above made exact same point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Red King said: Likely pointless, unless the NFL or someone not the refs are the ones to review it. Remember when PI was challengable? They refused to overturn even the most obvious calls. I don't see this being any different. That was awful, and pretty much a protest by officials making a judgement call reviewable . It was terrible for the game. There are clear rules for hitting QBs and all too often they throw a flag if they think something happened. I’m not opposed to a review process as these are huge calls and defenses depend on pressuring the passer. PI is different because almost no crew calls it “ by the book” thank goodness- the game might be unwatchable if they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I am of the mindset that everything should be reviewable, but it must be clear and obvious to overturn. That call was terrible in hindsight but to an official being blocked it would be hard to tell. I don't like that honestly. We'll get what's going on in soccer. Touchdown happens, we can't celebrate because we have to wait until kickoff to find out if it's good or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I don’t get why almost every call isn’t reviewable. Coaches still have a limit of how many can be called and it still costs a timeout when they are wrong. Let’s say increasing the amount of challengeable calls results in an average of 2 more challenge per game. That would result in an additional 5-7 minutes of game time. Is this not worth getting things right??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I'm still surprised the NFL doesn't give coaches one single anything reviewable flag. 15 yard penalty if wrong but can be used for any penalty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 please no... It will be just like DPI: they'll uphold every call anyway, making it a moot point How about if in doubt keep the flag in your pocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, DaggersEOD said: If they were to do this, it would have to be a New York call like they do for “easy call” corrections I’m real time. BTW, those have been great. If we leave it to the ref to admit he made a mistake, it’ll be the whole PI review thing all over again. They will never overturn a call they made. Hockey does the same thing I believe. Don't they have people in their Toronto office that watch and review every game. They are the ones handling the reviews. I think they can even call into the officials working the game and tell them that a certain play needs to be reviewed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 No. If you write the rule correctly you shouldn't need review. The thing about putting all your weight on the Quarterback is ridiculous and needs to go. If the hit is egregiously late, low, or to the head call it roughing. Otherwise leave it alone. They are over-complicating it way too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Red King said: Likely pointless, unless the NFL or someone not the refs are the ones to review it. Remember when PI was challengable? They refused to overturn even the most obvious calls. I don't see this being any different. I think you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I hate it. Get rid of the entire review system, please. It's going to get to the point where you don't know what you just watched on any play. You'll have to wait for the review process to clear before you'll know if you should sad or happy. This crap kills sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I am of the mindset that everything should be reviewable, but it must be clear and obvious to overturn. That call was terrible in hindsight but to an official being blocked it would be hard to tell. That sounds great but it would quickly devolve into a giant mess. 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: No. If you write the rule correctly you shouldn't need review. The thing about putting all your weight on the Quarterback is ridiculous and needs to go. If the hit is egregiously late, low, or to the head call it roughing. Otherwise leave it alone. They are over-complicating it way too much. Has nothing to do with it. Calls are always subjective and as such, one referee will call something another won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Greg S said: That call in the 3rd quarter of the Dolphins-Chargers game was a joke. That was by rule a roughing call, it might not have been a big hit, but the way the rule is written with landing with your body weight that is a penalty. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Red King said: Likely pointless, unless the NFL or someone not the refs are the ones to review it. Remember when PI was challengable? They refused to overturn even the most obvious calls. I don't see this being any different. Make not overturning calls when obvious a suspendable offense. Then it is NFL oversight issue if they do not suspend referees, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Red King said: Likely pointless, unless the NFL or someone not the refs are the ones to review it. Remember when PI was challengable? They refused to overturn even the most obvious calls. I don't see this being any different. Didn't all those reviews go to one guy who seemed to refuse to overturn anything? I'm not sure the idea of reviewing was at fault there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: Hockey does the same thing I believe. Don't they have people in their Toronto office that watch and review every game. They are the ones handling the reviews. I think they can even call into the officials working the game and tell them that a certain play needs to be reviewed. That’s what I’m saying. Like a “pick up the flag” buzzer. Trying my best to think of what a counter-argument could be… …the only thing I can think of is that refs could argue that being overturned is embarrassing so having that potential “humiliation” on the line, they may decide to not throw a flag… ..Over time, that could lead to less penalties being called, therefore a more dangerous game? Then the “abundance of caution” (ie for no good reason) mindset could kick in… …but that’s stretching. The only resistance would be from ref egos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: That was by rule a roughing call, it might not have been a big hit, but the way the rule is written with landing with your body weight that is a penalty. 🤷♂️ We have all seen hits that were way worse, and nothing was called. I feel bad for the players in this spot. It makes it hard to play defense in today's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: That sounds great but it would quickly devolve into a giant mess. I will add once you get a challenge wrong then you lose the right to challenge, and the review process can not take more than 2 minutes. Clear and obvious means that frame by frame should not be needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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