BillsShredder83 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, boyst said: And after the reports are there being nearly a mutiny in the locker room over McDermott not practicing what he preached. ... Yeah. ***** him Whats this about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, ren1701 said: He's Marv Levy - a ton of talent without the ability to win it and by the time it gets figured out, we will have wasted the prime years of a QB that is generational. I like Mcdermit but like the 90's, if a Parcels or Gibbs was the HC, the Bills have a few Lombardi's. The cycle continues, ask yourself, if Reid or (and I even hate saying this) Belliches was the HC - the Bills probably already have the parade route ready, Just my take Neither Kelly or Josh are generational. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I do question some things about McD, but what has Beane done in the draft besides drafting Allen? The homegrown talent on defense and offense is questionable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Sweet, let's go and gamble on a Matt Ruhle just because the grass is always greener. Hell, let's make Rex the head coach again. Frazier. No. You don't gamble on this. You lay out a plan. You have a formula. After McDermott has shown several times he is not the answer over the last 6 years you have a redundancy plan. That redundancy plan is another coach in the wing to move up. It's a pack of dynamite to start over. Blowing it up now is better than having don Shula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Mcclappy and Beane ruined their shot with 13 seconds Retooling both lines is gonna be some work It wouldn't be if they had identified this 5 years ago. Josh has had a garbage OL forever. We've been begging for drafting better Olineman around Josh. Instead McD insists on drafting failed DE's. If you're all content with Marty Schottenheimer, guess what you got him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, boyst said: He's not wrong. McDermott has had piss poor excuses for poor leadership since he came here. Poor decisions all over the place. 2017: The San Diego game where they started Peterman and the entire team revolted in the locker room to nearly having a fight? The entire team was pissed and messaging during the game how pissed they were. 2021: Chiefs game where he preached accountability and the defense failed and he didn't say *****. Then the special teams didn't coordinate with his direction and he refused to take credit? Meanwhile the offense and defense about coming to blows int he locker room - Hughes being shunned by the team because of his leadership disagreement with McD? I'm not going to let you run down a new member when you don't know what you're talking about. have never heard any of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Every single coach on this team deserves this!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: It wouldn't be if they had identified this 5 years ago. Josh has had a garbage OL forever. We've been begging for drafting better Olineman around Josh. Instead McD insists on drafting failed DE's. If you're all content with Marty Schottenheimer, guess what you got him. I’d like to know how much of the draft falls on Beane vs McD, because the drafts have been bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I haven’t done this all year, but I’m thinking of logging into the WGR website to listen to callers. Need some levelheaded opinions on this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, ren1701 said: He's Marv Levy - a ton of talent without the ability to win it and by the time it gets figured out, we will have wasted the prime years of a QB that is generational. I like Mcdermit but like the 90's, if a Parcels or Gibbs was the HC, the Bills have a few Lombardi's. The cycle continues, ask yourself, if Reid or (and I even hate saying this) Belliches was the HC - the Bills probably already have the parade route ready, Just my take 100% true. Most people here are in denial about it but we will never win anything here with McD. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 12/6/2022 at 11:13 AM, Success said: That's it. I'm not even sure this is worth a thread, but after watching coaching all season, and particularly this past weekend and last night - it's pretty clear we have a good one in McD. ALL coaches make mistakes and have moments you can point to that are sub-par, but on balance, this coaching staff is well-prepared, gameplans well & makes good adjustments. Around the rest of the league, the coaching is just bad. There are obviously some good ones, but it's a pretty small group. I'd put McDermott in the top 5 right now. McD is out coached on a regular basis, his game time play calling and adjustments are very bad. We have arguably the worst group on offensive coaches in the NFL. Best case scenario is Frazer and Dorsey being signed as HC’s. Both will fail miserably as HC’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, boyst said: No. You don't gamble on this. You lay out a plan. You have a formula. After McDermott has shown several times he is not the answer over the last 6 years you have a redundancy plan. That redundancy plan is another coach in the wing to move up. It's a pack of dynamite to start over. Blowing it up now is better than having don Shula. He's the answer to me. Who do you want as a replacement? How do you get players to buy in to completely blowing it up again? Diggs is basically gone if you do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren1701 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Neither Kelly or Josh are generational. You joking or for real? Cause one has a nice HOF bust and the other is on his way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Whats this about? I think he's talking about the aftermath of the 13 seconds game. McD preaches taking ownership of your own mistakes and it all has to start with yourself, etc...but he totally dodged every bullet he could after the 13 second game. He didn't own up to the utter failure of the whole thing at all at the post game PC, and then they fired the special teams coordinator, using him as the scapegoat. I'd be willing to bet the guy is nothing like what he publicly appears to be, but I don't know. I don't know him at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Neither Kelly or Josh are generational. here we go with this nonsense. Josh was dragging this stupid team to win today. They let him down. Edited January 22, 2023 by Roundybout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: 100% true. Most people here are in denial about it but we will never win anything here with McD. Agreed. I haven't looked him since day one. All this culture and family BS only get you so far. Eventually you need to out X and O a guy in a big game. When is the last time we have done that? Just now, Roundybout said: He's the answer to me. Who do you want as a replacement? How do you get players to buy in to completely blowing it up again? Diggs is basically gone if you do that. Diggs can go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, ren1701 said: He's Marv Levy - a ton of talent without the ability to win it and by the time it gets figured out, we will have wasted the prime years of a QB that is generational. I like Mcdermit but like the 90's, if a Parcels or Gibbs was the HC, the Bills have a few Lombardi's. The cycle continues, ask yourself, if Reid or (and I even hate saying this) Belliches was the HC - the Bills probably already have the parade route ready, Just my take Marv is 100% the reason we lost SB 25. Thurman Thomas: 135 yards rushing. On FIFTEEN touches. Give him the all 25 times, hell, 20!, and we win. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: here we go with this nonsense. They aren't. Neither of them were even the best QB of their respective eras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 McD = Marty Schottenheimer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Agreed. I haven't looked him since day one. All this culture and family BS only get you so far. Eventually you need to out X and O a guy in a big game. When is the last time we have done that? Diggs can go. You people have brain worms. "Our top-3 stud receiver who Josh loves can just leave." Absolute insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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