Bills at Lions - Post Game Thread

[CincyBillsFan]

56 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Josh almost never looks Shakir’s way. Whether that’s Shakir’s fault for not getting open, I don’t know, I don’t have the All-22. It’s almost exclusively, Diggs, Davis, and (insert running back here). Knox only gets a couple looks himself.

Don't forget McKenzie.  When a team puts a guy that's a mismatch covering McK Allen will exploit the hell out of the situation like he did last year against NE and to an extent yesterday.  The evidence is overwhelming that if a guy is consistently getting open Allen will throw hm the ball.  To me the fault is with Shakir for not getting consistently open or worse running the poor patterns.

 

 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, Mynamemike said:

I was on the road traveling during the first half yesterday.  How did Tre look back in action?  Didn’t see him out there much late in the game

 

He only played the first 2 series, about 15 plays and was on a pitch count. McD said the plan is he will get more time next game as they ramp him back up.

He wasn't noticeable which was a good thing I guess? Lions went 3 and out there first series.

[wjag]

I know there were many aspects of the last three weeks that have changed perceptions on the team, but I would like to put away the worry beads for a day and just appreciate what we have been treated to, and yes, I mean treated to.

 

Buffalo has a QB with a dinged wing

Buffalo has a M*A*S*H unit playing on the OLINE

Buffalo lost a day of practice to sickness

Buffalo lost a day of practice due to a freak snow storm

Buffalo had to figure out a way to travel to Detroit with 24 hours notice in the middle of said freak storm

Buffalo had to fly back home and continue the dig out and then turn around and fly back four days later all the while installing a game plan

Buffalo played 3 games in 12 days with all of that going on and 4 games in 19 days.

Buffalo lost starts from Morse, Miller, Epenesa, Rousseau, Elam, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, Dawkins during that stretch (incredible to type that)

Buffalo played 3 of 4 on the road and next week it will be 4 of 5

 

And having said all that, every game has been competitive.  Buffalo lost a couple, but if it wasn't for that crazy sequence vs Minnesota, they would be 3-1 during that stretch.  Seriously, how many teams in the NFL could go through that stretch, be in every game and still be 2-2?  Every Bills game, and I mean every Bills game is now must see TV.  

Edited November 25, 2022 by wjag

[stevewin]

17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

This angle makes it even more impressive- looking left the whole first part of the play then just launches it down the middle to where Stef will be.  Crazy

[muppy]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

The Chargers are ALWAYS seen as a playoff team yet NEVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! There probably isn’t a more overrated team in the league, and the Chiefs barely beat them. I am not saying the Lions are a playoff team but at this point in the season they are a more dangerous team than the Chargers are 

There is likely not another single team in the NFL as despised by their original fanbase than the "Los Angeles Chaagaahs" I hope the non playoff appearance carries on. It is SWEET Karma after what they did to the people of Americas Finest city. SMH Pathetic. Vent/

Edited November 25, 2022 by muppy

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

The Chargers are ALWAYS seen as a playoff team yet NEVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! There probably isn’t a more overrated team in the league, and the Chiefs barely beat them. I am not saying the Lions are a playoff team but at this point in the season they are a more dangerous team than the Chargers are 

Be careful what you ask for. The Chargers might very well play the Bills in a playoff game. Also, there is no way in hell that the Lions are a more dangerous team than the Chargers. Allen and Williams are getting healthy. Herbert is moons better than Geoff and Eckler is explosive. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league. 

[newcam2012]

4 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Thank God we have you to tell us what reality is.

 

Without you I'd foolishly think that we are still an elite team dealing with lot of unluck and adversity.

Just view me as a voice of reason to all this unrealistic optimism. For example, week after week people here predict Bills blowouts despite all the injuries. Lions game because defense is bad, Browns game because defense is bad, Vikings game because they haven't beaten anyone, Jets game because Wilson stinks, etc...This week how many will be predicting a Bills blowout vs NE? Jones noodle arm can't beat the Bills. 

 

Bills 41

NE 10. 

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Be careful what you ask for. The Chargers might very well play the Bills in a playoff game. Also, there is no way in hell that the Lions are a more dangerous team than the Chargers. Allen and Williams are getting healthy. Herbert is moons better than Geoff and Eckler is explosive. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league. 

Williams literally got re-injured on his first catch against the Chiefs. 
 

Chargers are talented. Tons of injuries.  
 

Something is off with them/Herbert.  Herbert can make the Allen throws, but when your QB slides in big moments, one yard short of the first down, I don’t know … Might be a microcosm of why they don’t seem to have “it”. 

[buffblue]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Williams literally got re-injured on his first catch against the Chiefs. 
 

Chargers are talented. Tons of injuries.  
 

Something is off with them/Herbert.  Herbert can make the Allen throws, but when your QB slides in big moments, one yard short of the first down, I don’t know … Might be a microcosm of why they don’t seem to have “it”. 

They don't scare me in the slightest. Staley is one of the worst coaches in the league. The Chargers have a collection of individual talent, and that's it

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, Process said:

Knox's lack of involvement in this offense is definitely one of the biggest disappointments this season. $13M is a lot to pay for a blocking TE.

I am interested to see how his involvement goes the rest of this season, and next, but if his lack of targets continues as it has been through 10 games, it is a contract that never should have been offered to him.  I've said it multiple times, the GM and coaches need to be on the same page.  If the coaches don't want him to be a focal point of the offense, than that message should have been relayed to Beane.

[Ya Digg?]

11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Be careful what you ask for. The Chargers might very well play the Bills in a playoff game. Also, there is no way in hell that the Lions are a more dangerous team than the Chargers. Allen and Williams are getting healthy. Herbert is moons better than Geoff and Eckler is explosive. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league. 

What have the Chargers shown at all this season that makes them a playoff team? They have 1 win this season by more than 1 score, but have a couple of losses by over 10 points. Allen and Williams can never stay healthy, and as talented as Herbert is, I do think right now he is overrated. He can make some great throws but I have pretty much zero confidence that he could win a game like Josh did yesterday. I would love for a healthy Bills team to see them in the playoffs.

 

And what I’m saying is that right now, the Lions are a more dangerous team. Yes the defense is bad but their offense is clicking much better than the Chargers are 

[Chandler#81]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

We won.

 

We shouldn't give a F what any pundit thinks. These games are difficult. We lost Von Miller most likely for the rest of the year. Oh well. Gotta carry on. Next man up type steez.

 

Keep grinding it out. These wins are gonna be ugly from here on out. We really do have the toughest schedule and obstacles this year.

 

 

Says who? He walked out of the locker room without a boot.

[LabattBlue]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

I tried watching Shakir on a couple of routes (as well as you can until he’s out of the screen) and it looks like he struggles to get separation. That being said on Josh’s touchdown when he dropped the snap, Shakir made a nice move to get wide open, I wonder if the play was designed to go to him

Unless it is zone or a broken coverage, how often does a WR get that much separation on any given play?  It is the QB's job to fit the ball into tight spaces.

[Ta111]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Williams literally got re-injured on his first catch against the Chiefs. 
 

Chargers are talented. Tons of injuries.  
 

Something is off with them/Herbert.  Herbert can make the Allen throws, but when your QB slides in big moments, one yard short of the first down, I don’t know … Might be a microcosm of why they don’t seem to have “it”. 

Main difference is Allen will run through a brick wall to win a game, Herbert not so much. Talent is one thing but you also need a certain amount of intestinal fortitude.

[newcam2012]

10 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Very strange way of looking at this.  I think you can do better.  Let me help 😃

 

The Lions are not as mediocre as their record.  They do have a really really good offense and lost some very close games. Sometimes the ball just bounces that way.

 

The Bills, also banged up on both sides of the ball including QB are finding ways to still win.  While also losing a home game, having 1 practice per week the last two weeks and a QB that doesnt throw in practice at all.

 

I think most of these players are going to be back by the playoffs and the Bills just need to find ways to win until then.  There are no style points with the injuries we have.  Just keep winning.

 

If anything its a credit to this coaching staff, the depth Beane put together, and the resillience of our players getting to 8-3.

 

You're welcome friend.

That's very fair. However, this season the injuries just keep mounting and seemingly won't stop. Now, add in Von Miller to the mix. Just seems like the football gods have spoken. 

 

Allen is hurt and who knows if he will fully recover this season. It seems like the kind of injury that will linger until the season is over. Hope I'm wrong there because the Bills need a heathly Allen to make a deep run. This version on Allen just won't cut it.

 

Agree about the Bills wins. They deserve credit for winning despite the extreme negative circumstances and injuries. Coaching has been sub par but winning certainly over shadows their mistakes. I'd add it's more difficult to win with your back ups. So maybe the coaches deserve some slack. Dorsey seems to be learning on the job and Fraizer has been pretty solid the last 2 games with his adjustments. Stopping Chubb shouldn't go unnoticed and he put more pressure on Geoff towards the end of the game.  However, let's take a step back and look at their last 2 wins. The Browns just aren't that good. They find ways to lose. The Lions defense is one of the worst in the league and they played without twi starting Oline man and their best CB. They are the classic example of a young talented team that finds ways to lose. The Bill played most of yesterday's game looking flat, spent, and going through the motions. I was watching and hoping the Bills with Allen could generate a win somehow someway. My prayers were answered. The Bills gutted our a win that they probably should have lost. That does say a lot about the team and the coaches. Good teams find ways to win and vice versa. Yesterday was a classic example if that. 

 

With that said, a healthy Bills team is extremely dangerous. I'd argue they would be the team to beat. The unknown answer is how heathly will they be? 

[newcam2012]

25 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

What have the Chargers shown at all this season that makes them a playoff team? They have 1 win this season by more than 1 score, but have a couple of losses by over 10 points. Allen and Williams can never stay healthy, and as talented as Herbert is, I do think right now he is overrated. He can make some great throws but I have pretty much zero confidence that he could win a game like Josh did yesterday. I would love for a healthy Bills team to see them in the playoffs.

 

And what I’m saying is that right now, the Lions are a more dangerous team. Yes the defense is bad but their offense is clicking much better than the Chargers are 

So you just casually dismiss the game the Chargers played vs the Chiefs who are arguably the best team in the league. Get out of here.

 

I compared Herbert to Geoff not Allen. No way in hell are the Lions more dangerous than the Chargers. You can spin it any way you like. I disagree and I'll leave it at that. Sometimes it's ok to say you exgerrated or was wrong. I've admitted my wrongdoings several times. 

 

 

[fan_in_tx]

1 hour ago, stevewin said:

This angle makes it even more impressive- looking left the whole first part of the play then just launches it down the middle to where Stef will be.  Crazy

Agree... Watching on TV I wondered why he didn't go to Gabe as it looked like he could have taken it to the EZ.  This angle shows the safety coming over top preventing any deep downfield throw for Davis..   Couldn't see that on the TV angle. 

[LabattBlue]

Anyone notice our great "ST only guys" Neal & Jones both whiff on the punt returner near the end of the 3rd quarter which led to the Lions go ahead TD at the time?  Good thing they are both gifted roster spots because of their outstanding abilities on ST.  

[muppy]

I just saw this and thought it was very well done and cute 🙂

 

 

[CNYfan]

100% for Klein

  14% for Dodson

   0% for T. Brenard   

 

That is sad.