Speaker Pelosi's Home Has Been Attacked

[Doc]

10 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

At this point, with the known facts and authorities, the absolutely most likely scenario is that a crazy person broke into the Pelosi’s house looking for Nancy Pelosi and ended up assaulting her husband.

 

If you think there is some other scenario that is more likely than that, you are just telling on yourself. You are announcing to the world that you are a gullible and unserious person who will throw facts to the wind in the service of emotions and vibes. 
 

You can claim that you’re just being skeptical, but you’re not.  True skepticism requires grounding in reality. You’re just taking feelings over facts and pretending it makes you superior. You’re not a skeptic, you are a mark and a fool. 

 

Then that's all that should have been reported/commented on.  Instead the left went down the "MAGA's want to..." path and invited speculation on the numerous oddities of the case.  And if you don't acknowledge there are many oddities, you're a mark and a fool.   Which is just how they want you.

 

[Sundancer]

7 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

So you believe it is coincidence that the police spokesman just happened to hit on the fact that he was nudist? You act like they don't have a working knowledge of who the guys is when the spokesperson speaks. 

You said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

But that’s not what happened. 
 

You lied. Got caught. 

[Orlando Tim]

56 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

You said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

But that’s not what happened. 
 

You lied. Got caught. 

They knew who he was and did not tell people who he was.  Listen for yourself since your reading comprehension is poor, they had a working knowledge of who he is 

 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[Sundancer]

20 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

They knew who he was and did not tell people who he was.  Listen for yourself since your reading comprehension is poor, they had a working knowledge of who he is 

 

 

It's funny to keep quoting what you said vs what the voice in that video is saying. You lied. 

 

You said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

It's funny to keep quoting what you said vs what the voice in that video is saying. You lied. 

 

You said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

Since they had a working knowledge of who the guy was due to all of his run ins with the police, why do you think they did not announce it early on?

[Doc]

Anyone been fired over "incompetence" yet?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Anyone been fired over "incompetence" yet?

Interesting question.  Here’s an opinion piece posted to the Fox News website:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-blasted-critics-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-report-questions-persist-done-damage
 

 

Lots of speculation on the reporting, including how NBC could have gotten it so wrong (assuming they got it wrong), why the story was allowed to air to begin with, what actually happened in the house, and why journalists aren’t out seeking clarification.  
 

All fair questions in my opinion.  In a nod to Chi and Sunny D, it could have just been one large, systemic f/u where professional reporters, editors and producers simply got confused and produced a story over the course of a week and then published a fabricated version of events from unsubstantiated sources.   Or, they’re part of Team Conspiracy.  
 

I would think Miguel A. and his producers would be terminated on a screw up this big, if indeed it was shoddy reporting. 

 

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Interesting question.  Here’s an opinion piece posted to the Fox News website:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-blasted-critics-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-report-questions-persist-done-damage
 

 

Lots of speculation on the reporting, including how NBC could have gotten it so wrong (assuming they got it wrong), why the story was allowed to air to begin with, what actually happened in the house, and why journalists aren’t out seeking clarification.  
 

All fair questions in my opinion.  In a nod to Chi and Sunny D, it could have just been one large, systemic f/u where professional reporters, editors and producers simply got confused and produced a story over the course of a week and then published a fabricated version of events from unsubstantiated sources.   Or, they’re part of Team Conspiracy.  
 

I would think Miguel A. and his producers would be terminated on a screw up this big, if indeed it was shoddy reporting.

 

The more logical conclusion is they took their time gathering and verifying the information (considering the report came out a week later) but after airing it got major push back from Nan and they had to take it down. 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

The more logical conclusion is they took their time gathering and verifying the information (considering the report came out a week later) but after airing it got major push back from Nan and they had to take it down. 

Pay attention qDoc - you have new talking points to download:

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

On 11/7/2022 at 12:52 PM, Sundancer said:

 

It's funny to keep quoting what you said vs what the voice in that video is saying. You lied. 

 

You said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

Since they had a working knowledge of who the guy was due to all of his run ins with the police, why do you think they did not announce it early on?

 

[Chef Jim]

31 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

He owes the Speaker an apology not the public.  You “freaks” are never satisfied. 

[OrangeBills]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

 

Quite the world we've turned this into, where a "public", often insincere apology, is more "acceptable" than a sincere, private apology.

 

*** obviously I haven't seen the private apology to assess its veracity

 

But this is the Liberal world and how they want it.  It's pathetic, frankly

[Sundancer]

12 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

Since they had a working knowledge of who the guy was due to all of his run ins with the police, why do you think they did not announce it early on?

 

 

This is one pet theory of yours that has nothing to do with your lie about what the police said. Just admit it. You fabricated that story. 

9 hours ago, OrangeBills said:

 

Quite the world we've turned this into, where a "public", often insincere apology, is more "acceptable" than a sincere, private apology.

 

*** obviously I haven't seen the private apology to assess its veracity

 

But this is the Liberal world and how they want it.  It's pathetic, frankly

 

Insulting people from a stage/social media but not to their face (see PPP and Trump, Donald) is part of this world too. 

 

Not a D/R thing. Just a thing.

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

This is one pet theory of yours that has nothing to do with your lie about what the police said. Just admit it. You fabricated that story. 

Listen to the video, the police spokesman says at the end, " we have a working knowledge of who he is" hence not a theory or a lie. Your pride in remaining ignorant of anything not reported by MSM is odd 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

12 hours ago, OrangeBills said:

 

Quite the world we've turned this into, where a "public", often insincere apology, is more "acceptable" than a sincere, private apology.

 

*** obviously I haven't seen the private apology to assess its veracity

 

But this is the Liberal world and how they want it.  It's pathetic, frankly

If you walked by a Jennifer Rubin raging at Glenn Youngkin for not publicly apologizing while she was chomping on three slices of Sbarro meat-lover pizza at the local mall, would you stop and engage?   Take a minute to explain why a handwritten note is sufficient to apologize to the offended party?  Remind her that people devoted to a life of public service make mistakes, too?  
 

No, more than likely, you would shake your head, catch the eye of another shopper and both shake your head at the crazy woman making a fool of herself. 
 

Who cares? 
 

 

[OrangeBills]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

If you walked by a Jennifer Rubin raging at Glenn Youngkin for not publicly apologizing while she was chomping on three slices of Sbarro meat-lover pizza at the local mall, would you stop and engage?   Take a minute to explain why a handwritten note is sufficient to apologize to the offended party?  Remind her that people devoted to a life of public service make mistakes, too?  
 

No, more than likely, you would shake your head, catch the eye of another shopper and both shake your head at the crazy woman making a fool of herself. 
 

Who cares? 
 

 

 

You're right, I don't care in the least, end of the day

[Sundancer]

2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

Listen to the video, the police spokesman says at the end, " we have a working knowledge of who he is" hence not a theory or a lie. Your pride in remaining ignorant of anything not reported by MSM is odd 

 

You're underwater. If you'd said you have a pet theory based on some guy's voice in a video, that would have been one thing. 

 

But you said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

[ChiGoose]

I see we're still playing the insanity game. Maybe I'll just join in the fun.

 

Something is fishy about Trump's relationship with Ivanka. They seem a bit *too* close, if you get what I'm saying. Corporatist media isn't looking into it, but does this look normal?

 

[Orlando Tim]

5 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

You're underwater. If you'd said you have a pet theory based on some guy's voice in a video, that would have been one thing. 

 

But you said, “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

So which part of the statement is untrue? Did the police know who he was or was the perception at the time something other then he was right winger? Those are the two parts of the statement- which is not true?

[ChiGoose]

Just now, Orlando Tim said:

So which part of the statement is untrue? Did the police know who he was or was the perception at the time something other then he was right winger? Those are the two parts of the statement- which is not true?

 

And why would Trump allow Ivanka to marry a (((globalist))) like Kushner? Was it because of his wealthy dad? Or was it because she agreed to keep their relationship going even after she got married?

[Sundancer]

Just now, Orlando Tim said:

So which part of the statement is untrue? Did the police know who he was or was the perception at the time something other then he was right winger? Those are the two parts of the statement- which is not true?

 

This part: “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

Police did not say "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger."

 

Police did not say "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien."

 

Police did not say, "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist."

 

What some voice on the video did say: "Hey so is this the dude that is a former nudist dude?...Yea okay, is it okay to say any of that stuff? ... Nope?"

[ChiGoose]

3 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

This part: “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

Police did not say "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger."

 

Police did not say "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien."

 

Police did not say, "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist."

 

What some voice on the video did say: "Hey so is this the dude that is a former nudist dude?...Yea okay, is it okay to say any of that stuff? ... Nope?"

 

And another question I have is, why would Ivanka want to be in such a relationship? It's creepy and according to Stormy Daniels, he's not working with much downstairs. But then I remembered that picture and maybe he's groomed her for it and she either doesn't realize it's wrong or she feels trapped at this point.

 

Just asking questions, but it makes you think.

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Orlando Tim said:

Thank you for admitting that what I wrote is true and you can't dispute it. Your entire point is that I did not quote him verbatim, and you intentionally ignored the quote about "having the working knowledge". But if I am wrong what is correct? 

 

Wasn't it weird when Trump called his daughter hot? That's not a word normally used in a father-daughter relationship. But it is used in other types of relationships.

 

Makes you think, right?

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Wasn't it weird when Trump called his daughter hot? That's not a word normally used in a father-daughter relationship. But it is used in other types of relationships.

 

Makes you think, right?

Well you know they showered together since she was a little girl. Oh wait, that was Biden who showered with the young girls, never mind.

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

Well you know they showered together since she was a little girl. Oh wait, that was Biden who showered with the young girls, never mind.

 

Interesting. What if it was a Trump-Ivanka-Biden love triangle? While all three are life-long Dems, Ivanka is much more liberal than her father, maybe she saw something in Joe. That might explain Trumps seeming hatred of Biden, he sees him as a rival not just professionally, but romantically. 

[Orlando Tim]

6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Wasn't it weird when Trump called his daughter hot? That's not a word normally used in a father-daughter relationship. But it is used in other types of relationships.

 

Makes you think, right?

Trump is not my guy- he is simply better than anyone the Dems have put up nationally in quite a while. I have never voted for him in a primary and never will most likely. Most Dem attacks on him are stupid though.

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Interesting. What if it was a Trump-Ivanka-Biden love triangle? While all three are life-long Dems, Ivanka is much more liberal than her father, maybe she saw something in Joe. That might explain Trumps seeming hatred of Biden, he sees him as a rival not just professionally, but romantically. 

By gosh you might be onto something here. And what if Paul Pelosi knew about this and all three of them hired DePape to take him out?

[ChiGoose]

Just now, wnyguy said:

By gosh you might be onto something here. And what if Paul Pelosi knew about this and all three of them hired DePape to take him out?

 

Well there's a thought. Hire a crazy person with a crunchy granola history who had more recently bought into QAnon type conspiracies to take out the witness. That way, liberals will blame him as a right wing crazy person and conservatives will say he was a left wing hippie and nobody will be talking about who hired him to take out Pelosi.

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

This part: “Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

Police did not say "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger."

 

Police did not say "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien."

 

Police did not say, "they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist."

 

What some voice on the video did say: "Hey so is this the dude that is a former nudist dude?...Yea okay, is it okay to say any of that stuff? ... Nope?"

I am asking specifically for which part is untrue with my logic:

1) Spokesperson says he is a nudist and they have a working knowledge of him, which means police know who he is and that he is an illegal alien and generally a liberal.

2) the belief at that time being pushed around by the majority of the press was that the guy was a right winger and the Spokesperson could have killed that narrative but was told not to discuss it. 

Those two statements sum up my original statement, so which one of these two is untrue?

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Well there's a thought. Hire a crazy person with a crunchy granola history who had more recently bought into QAnon type conspiracies to take out the witness. That way, liberals will blame him as a right wing crazy person and conservatives will say he was a left wing hippie and nobody will be talking about who hired him to take out Pelosi.

Exactly.

[Sundancer]

2 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I am asking specifically for which part is untrue with my logic:

1) Spokesperson says he is a nudist and they have a working knowledge of him, which means police know who he is and that he is an illegal alien and generally a liberal.

2) the belief at that time being pushed around by the majority of the press was that the guy was a right winger and the Spokesperson could have killed that narrative but was told not to discuss it. 

Those two statements sum up my original statement, so which one of these two is untrue?

 

You continue to conflate your personal theory vs what that voice in the video said. At best, you could say the voice in the video said he was a nudist and was told by someone on the phone not to say that in the press conference (yet). That's it.  

 

You said, "Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

Last time: The police said. No. Such. Thing. 

 

 

 

[Doc]

35 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Well you know they showered together since she was a little girl. Oh wait, that was Biden who showered with the young girls, never mind.

 

You beat me to it.  The little girl being his daughter.

[wnyguy]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You beat me to it.  The little girl being his daughter.

Please, please, we have already swept that little story under the rug.

[Doc]

Just now, wnyguy said:

Please, please, we have already swept that little story under the rug.

 

Well, they have, Hunter Biden style.

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

You continue to conflate your personal theory vs what that voice in the video said. At best, you could say the voice in the video said he was a nudist and was told by someone on the phone not to say that in the press conference (yet). That's it.  

 

You said, "Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

Last time: The police said. No. Such. Thing. 

 

 

 

I will make this my last point on this and then let you respond if you like, but I do appreciate you recognizing that nothing I said was factually incorrect and I love the fact that you refuse to comment on why they did not state "they have a working knowledge of him" because you know why. 

[Sundancer]

28 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I will make this my last point on this and then let you respond if you like, but I do appreciate you recognizing that nothing I said was factually incorrect and I love the fact that you refuse to comment on why they did not state "they have a working knowledge of him" because you know why. 

Another lie. “I do appreciate you recognizing that nothing I said was factually incorrect….”

 

I didn’t respond to your other stupid points because you were trying to escape your first lie and I wouldn’t let you get out of it. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/nbc-news-reporter-suspended-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-story/amp/
 

So, the reporter has been suspended for this report.   Yet another odd domino to fall in this story.  No comment on whether his producer or editor has been suspended. It seems unlikely this story would not have been vetted by upper management at the station. 
 

This would be a great story for another media outlet to report on.