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Trump planted election fraud seeds in 2012 when Obama won his 2nd term.

 

He continued after he won the presidency with his failed election integrity commission. From what I recall, pre-election he was also screaming about it being rigged. He accused Cruz of cheating when Cruz won the Iowa caucus. 

 

We all saw what happened in 2020.

 

 

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SoCal Deek
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Yep! Next he’ll be calling his political opponents terrorist fascists while standing there with armed marines in the background. Shameful. 

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This thread is from the person who thought that the Bible is a pro-slavery fairy tale. You cannot make this stuff up! 😂😂

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Close but way worse. This is slow methodical march to make Christians into the next deplorable subset of Americans. These folks know exactly what they’re doing and they are not playing around.

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

This does not prove anything at all. I asked for proof that most of the immigrants were not seeking political asylum 

 

And I take it you are against allowing more immigrants to come in and do work. We need them 

 

 

 

Are you intent on making yourself look uninformed and foolish?

It seems so.

 

You first stated they were "fleeing for their lives."

That is idiotic.

 

Now you seem to have absolutely no idea of how "seeking political asylum," a phrase you just recently introduce, seems to work.

If they were "seeking political asylum," they would follow that process.

It is lunacy to think that is an issue with illegals.

 

Your last sentence, where you suggest regarding my view on legal immigration, is equally idiotic.

 

I am not interested in educating you, but having watched this thing for years, you have demonstrated absolutely no idea or even interest in the massive industry this is, and it has nothing to do with political asylum or fleeing for their lives.

 

I don't know where you get information that informs your views, but those views are sorely lacking and grossly uninformed.

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Really? That is in no way true at all 

Republicans don't 

And there ya go Tibs….right back into your partisan foxhole. What’s the point of participating on a political message board if you’re just going to cling to that entrenched attitude? Answer….there is no point. You officially become part of the problem. 

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47 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Are you intent on making yourself look uninformed and foolish?

 

 

I only read this. 

 

How is asking for proof doing that? You have made definitive statements but offered no proof at all except to say you are a super expert on the subject. 

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How is someone to "prove" this?

Are you at all aware of the asylum process?

 

If they were seeking political asylum do you think there might be evidence of this?

 

There isn't.

 

"Fleeing for their lives?"

 

No evidence of that either.

 

It is an industry that has been in place for decades, has prevented  domestic reform in the countries that are so ill-governed, and has recently accelerated as the US Gov exhibits gross negligence by not protecting our people from it.

 

It needs attention. It needs our gov moving in the best interests of our country, and it isn't happening for reasons that are grossly apparent.

 

You are apparently unaware of any of this.

You don't know the illegal systems and processes in place.

That is grossly apparent.

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12 minutes ago, sherpa said:

How is someone to "prove" this?

Are you at all aware of the asylum process?

 

If they were seeking political asylum do you think there might be evidence of this?

 

There isn't.

 

"Fleeing for their lives?"

 

No evidence of that either.

 

It is an industry that has been in place for decades, has prevented  domestic reform in the countries that are so ill-governed, and has recently accelerated as the US Gov exhibits gross negligence by not protecting our people from it.

 

It needs attention. It needs our gov moving in the best interests of our country, and it isn't happening for reasons that are grossly apparent.

 

You are apparently unaware of any of this.

You don't know the illegal systems and processes in place.

That is grossly apparent.

And down the rabbit hole ye shall go. Good luck getting out. We’ll leave the light on up here on the surface. Go towards the light!!

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1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

And down the rabbit hole ye shall go. Good luck getting out. We’ll leave the light on up here on the surface. Go towards the light!!

 

Thanks amigo.

I'll be OK, but goodness, how can someone be so ill informed of this?

Anyway, life jacket accepted.

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41 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Thanks amigo.

I'll be OK, but goodness, how can someone be so ill informed of this?

Anyway, life jacket accepted.

You’re making the mistake of thinking that everyone is pro-American. They are not. As I keep saying on here, you have to break a boatload of eggs to pull off the Fundamental Transformation of a Super Power. It’s best you learn that before you wear out your keyboard. 😉

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21 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Republicans, in general,  want zero immigration 

Where do you get this stuff?  

If you said republicans want secure borders and to curtail illegal immigration, you might be right.  Of course, all Americans should want that, but somehow, the people that control the dissemination of information have managed to convince non-critical thinkers that its for the best.

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34 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

How does your copying and pasting that tweet answer your question? Answer: It doesn’t. But thanks for playing. 🙄


It really bothers you that the face of MAGA is a white nationalists and a complete nut job.

 

 

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Says the guy who can’t stand the term gay MARRIAGE 

That’s actually TWO terms. I simply suggested that it would’ve been far more creative/efficient to come up with a single word for that type of union. And I stand by it. 

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Nope. Everyone here knows you’re a homophobe. 

Aren't you the guy that knowingly misgenders men as women?  What's that saying about glass houses?

And I don't think he is a homophobe at all.  I think you may be though. 

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Nope. Everyone here knows you’re a homophobe. 

Hardly. You can hunker in down there in your protected bunker claiming everyone else is afraid of everything but those living up here on the surface of the planet know otherwise. You really ought to come up for air once in a while. You’ll find that the vast majority of people to be really, really nice. Come on, you can do it. Here kitty, kitty, kitty it’s going to be OK. 

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4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Hardly. You can hunker in down there in your protected bunker claiming everyone else is afraid of everything but those living up here on the surface of the planet know otherwise. You really ought to come up for air once in a while. You’ll find that the vast majority of people to be really, really nice. Come on, you can do it. Here kitty, kitty, kitty it’s going to be OK. 


You’re the one sitting in a bunker demanding special treatment… smfh

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On 9/26/2022 at 12:00 PM, Tiberius said:

I mean we have a first amendment, so WTF is this? 

 

Well this country use to be a country that had it's moral values in line the things written in the bible were used as their outline of how to create laws that would resemble those that are written as the christian base line to follow as a moral guide but that has long since went straight to hell !!

 

This is a society now that doesn't see that having any kind of moral structure is a good thing in all walks of life & it shows from the gov't as our leaders on down to the people . It seems as if most just want a lawless society which has been shown more so in the last 3 years than i have ever seen in my lifetime .

 

The defund the police thing & allowing criminals to have more rights than the law abiding people is just a start . I don't know that i have ever seen a time when the criminals or the families of criminals get rewarded more for being bad or are made to look as if they were the ones wronged & the lawful looked to be the bad guy .

 

There are many many examples of it in the past but just like this post by Tibs & it's heading as we have seen in his past reply's common sense is not one of his strong points & is more the problem than the solution . Stupid is as stupid does .

 

If you don't know the answer to the heading posted that is a truly sad thing !! I'm truly afraid for the future if not just for this country but the world in general.

 

The US use to be the shining light of how things should be done the right way but the power given to those put in the position to lead has taken advantage of the positions given and they have shown how it is easier to vote them selves to be in a good light rather than truly stand for the right or moral thing to do by & for the people .

 

Morals are no longer the map for Washington in general if you have ever been there Biblical verses were carved on a lot of the buildings to remind us of where the building blocks of this country came from but are now just looked over to be nothing but a old verses out of a old book for fools .

 

S**T roles down hill & the people for the most part are following suit as shown by the leaders of this country & as we are led . If we wonder why this country has gone to total S**T &  are asked the questions as posed in this headline of this post there is no need to wonder why the country & it's people have become what it has . GO FIGURE !! 

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On 9/30/2022 at 11:40 AM, Tiberius said:

Republicans, in general,  want zero immigration 

 

No i don't believe it i believe they just want LEGAL immigration the way it was meant to be not just a open door policy like this president wants & has proven he wants by ignoring what he has caused .

 

He ships immigrants all over the US but when a republican loads those same "Undocumented immigrants" that he allows in the country & ships them to his or what those that support as "sanctuary cities" all of then sudden those poor people are being used as a pawn yet they are doing the same thing as they are just not the way they want it to be .

 

They just don't want a open door policy because weather you believe so or not all that costs money oh sure they can just keep printing though right ?? So no problem here just more inflation !! 

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https://www.prri.org/spotlight/prri-2022-american-values-atlas-religious-affiliation-updates-and-trends/

 

 

This group feels besieged because they are losing ground. “The newly-released 2022 supplement to the PRRI Census of American Religion — based on over 40,000 interviews conducted last year — confirms that the decline of white Christians (Americans who identify as white, non-Hispanic and Christian of any kind) as a proportion of the population continues unabated,” writes Robert P. Jones, president of the Public Religion Research Institute. “As recently as 2008, when our first Black president was elected, the U.S. was a majority (54%) white Christian country.” By 2014 the number had dropped to 47 percent, and in 2022 it stood at 42 percent.

The group that has declined the most is at the core of the MAGA movement, the group most devoted to Christian nationalism. “White evangelical Protestants have experienced the steepest decline. As recently as 2006, white evangelical Protestants comprised nearly one-quarter of Americans (23%). By the time of Trump’s rise to power, their numbers had dipped to 16.8%,” Jones explains. “Today, white evangelical Protestants comprise only 13.6% of Americans.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

Instead, White evangelicals might look at former “customers” who are abandoning organized religion in droves. “Nearly four in ten Americans ages 18-29 (38%) are religiously unaffiliated, an increase from 34% in 2021," the PRRI census said. "As the cohorts age, the growth in religiously unaffiliated Americans has started to show up more in the 30-49 age category, which is up to 32% unaffiliated from 26% in 2016.”

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