New "ironclad" Stadium deal reached

[Gugny]

12 minutes ago, mrags said:

Of course it is. They are just increasing their ST price points now so that when the new stadium is built and they double the tix prices again it’s a huge gain for them. 

 

I haven't ruled out heading out to Orchard Park to tailgate with you f*ckers and just watching the game on TV in the lot.  It's actually pretty likely.

[mrags]

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

So club seat STH will be given a choice of seating at the new stadium over anyone in the regular seating areas, regardless of seniority?

More or less. Yes 

[Beast]

3 hours ago, mrags said:

Easier said than done. Haven’t we all learned that we’re basically a beaten and battered girlfriend in an abusive relationship? 

What have the Pegula’s done to anyone besides save the franchise from moving and putting a winner on the field?

[mrags]

6 minutes ago, Beast said:

What have the Pegula’s done to anyone besides save the franchise from moving and putting a winner on the field?

Well. They did make us have to deal with Rex Ryan for 2 seasons. They still kinda owe us for that one n

[LabattBlue]

52 minutes ago, mrags said:

More or less. Yes 

If I was a long time STH(I’m not) in the regular seating areas, and found out someone in the clubs who just became a STH in the last couple years, has seating dibs in the new stadium over me, I would tell the Bills to F off. 

[mrags]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

If I was a long time STH(I’m not) in the regular seating areas, and found out someone in the clubs who just became a STH in the last couple years, has seating dibs in the new stadium over me, I would tell the Bills to F off. 

Sent you a PM. But that is the decision some of us will have to make 

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Like poloncarz didn't want to have a new stadium built along with the thousands of bills fans in WNY.

 

And all the businesses that are going to get jobs from the construction and maintenance of the stadium.

 

And all the sponsors that are going to want to have their name on a shiny new stadium.

 

None of them wanted it built.  Only Pegula.  

 

Got it.

 

On August 2 2021, it was first reported that PSE was asking for 1.5 billion from the Erie and the state for a new stadium and upgrades at KeyBank center.  Do you have a link prior to that reporting that Poloncarz or the County wanted a new stadium built for the Bills?

 

Yes there will be temporary construction jobs.  After that, one can assume the current stadium management staff would resume work in the new stadium.

 

The sponsors that currently advertise in Hymark will no doubt continue to advertise in the shiny new stadium.

 

 

[The Wiz]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

On August 2 2021, it was first reported that PSE was asking for 1.5 billion from the Erie and the state for a new stadium and upgrades at KeyBank center.  Do you have a link prior to that reporting that Poloncarz or the County wanted a new stadium built for the Bills?

 

Yes there will be temporary construction jobs.  After that, one can assume the current stadium management staff would resume work in the new stadium.

 

The sponsors that currently advertise in Hymark will no doubt continue to advertise in the shiny new stadium.

 

 

You said Pegula demanded, now it's asked.

 

Do I have poloncarz saying he wanted one, no.  But him denying it would be political suicide in Erie county.

 

Assumptions.  Ass u me.

 

The current sponsors are contracted to highmark.  That means nothing once the new stadium is built.  Again, assumption.

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

You said Pegula demanded, now it's asked.

 

Do I have poloncarz saying he wanted one, no.  But him denying it would be political suicide in Erie county.

 

Assumptions.  Ass u me.

 

The current sponsors are contracted to highmark.  That means nothing once the new stadium is built.  Again, assumption.

 

Erie County lawmakers voted approval of the stadium funding.  Poloncarz didn't veto it. 

 

Poloncarz's acquiescence to a threat isn't quite the same as him personally  "wanting a new stadium".

 

The same article mentioned reports of the PSE threatening to move the team (PSE would later say  the same) if they didn't get what they want.  In most circles, that's not an "ask".  You understand this.

 

Yes, the new stadium will have sponsors.  Not sure what your point is there.  Are you intimating that there is a whole other cadre of potential Bills stadium sponsors advertisers that have been holding back sponsorship dollars, for decades, waiting for a new stadium?

 

Yeah that makes no sense.  The vast majority of the in stadium advertisers/sponsors will be (the same) local/regional businesses, as always.

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Erie County lawmakers voted approval of the stadium funding.  Poloncarz didn't veto it. 

 

Poloncarz's acquiescence to a threat isn't quite the same as him personally  "wanting a new stadium".

 

The same article mentioned reports of the PSE threatening to move the team (PSE would later say  the same) if they didn't get what they want.  In most circles, that's not an "ask".  You understand this.

 

Yes, the new stadium will have sponsors.  Not sure what your point is there.  Are you intimating that there is a whole other cadre of potential Bills stadium sponsors advertisers that have been holding back sponsorship dollars, for decades, waiting for a new stadium?

 

Yeah that makes no sense.  The vast majority of the in stadium advertisers/sponsors will be (the same) local/regional businesses, as always.

Again, why would poloncarz veto the stadium? It means jobs and the bills staying in Erie county.  He wins votes even if he doesn't want it.

 

The article has Pegula quoted as threatening to move the team or that's just what they felt?

 

Do I think there are other sponsors out there? Yes.  You think original pizza logs is the sponsor they wanted to use for a leader expiring in a few years or would they prefer to go with a bigger corp and wanted to wait until the new stadium and lease was in place?

[JoPoy88]

5 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

You will be required to buy PSLs in the new Rich(er) Stadium to keep those season tickets

 

 

wow thanks for the breaking news.

[JoPoy88]

6 hours ago, mrags said:

I’ve already accepted that I have to make a choice. Doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it. 

Well if you fully realize the situation (and clearly you do-the tix are going to expensive) and then proceed to hand them your money anyways your complaints have no merit and you deserve to get fleeced. 

[mrags]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

Well if you fully realize the situation (and clearly you do-the tix are going to expensive) and then proceed to hand them your money anyways your complaints have no merit and you deserve to get fleeced. 

As I said earlier. Easier said than done. Asking to not be a fan is like asking to not care about your children. It’s in our blood. It’s why we’re all here. It’s why we sit here and debate topics in the Bills when the season isn’t even going on. To some people it’s more than just watching a game once a week. I’m sure you understand that, you’re here too. But yes, at some point people will have to make decisions if they want to keep giving this team their money and if it’s worth the cost of going to games, or if it isn’t anymore. Right now it’s worth it. Time will tell if it stays that way or not. 

[Buffalo Super Fan]

6 hours ago, Beast said:

What have the Pegula’s done to anyone besides save the franchise from moving and putting a winner on the field?

Buffalo Bills fans and New York State saved the NFL franchise. Good compromise sell the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits. Terry Pegula losing crap with every arena team he owns doesn’t help with the decades of Buffalo Sabres suffering. How the hell do you own two NLL lacrosse teams the Buffalo Bandits and Rochester Knighthawks in a 15 team NLL professional lacrosse league and not win a thing in 12 years he has owned the Bandits nothing? That doesn’t make a Buffalo fans like myself filled with confidence Terry Pegula isn’t the village idiot as sports team owners. Corporate ownership that owns all the Buffalo sports together sucks that needs to end. Sell the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits Terry Pegula throw Buffalo fans a bone might go a long way mending fences public opinion wise in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Go Bandits! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Heitz]

12 hours ago, mrags said:

Easier said than done. Haven’t we all learned that we’re basically a beaten and battered girlfriend in an abusive relationship? 

 

In no way is being a fan of a sports team in any way, equivalent to being in an abusive relationship. Your relationship w the Bills sounds more a like that of a child who’s parents won’t buy them the toy want, when they want it, so they throw a fit in the aisle of Walmart…  

 

 

I also like we’re at the part of the new stadium argument where “tickets are going to be too expensive”, but that it’s also a giant mistake that Pegulia didn’t self fund a dome in downtown Buffalo.  Because tickets in that scenario would be *more affordable*? 🤔  Not to mention the added cost of the infrastructure to put a stadium downtown that that would likely fall on the shoulders of taxpayers regardless of who’s funding the building 🙃

 

And for the record I think a downtown stadium would have been sick. But it ain’t gonna happen, so I’m going to just continue to my my normal great time, in OP, but in a shiny new stadium 🙌🙌🙌

 

 

 

 

 

[mrags]

23 minutes ago, Heitz said:

 

In no way is being a fan of a sports team in any way, equivalent to being in an abusive relationship. Your relationship w the Bills sounds more a like that of a child who’s parents won’t buy them the toy want, when they want it, so they throw a fit in the aisle of Walmart…  

 

 

I also like we’re at the part of the new stadium argument where “tickets are going to be too expensive”, but that it’s also a giant mistake that Pegulia didn’t self fund a dome in downtown Buffalo.  Because tickets in that scenario would be *more affordable*? 🤔  Not to mention the added cost of the infrastructure to put a stadium downtown that that would likely fall on the shoulders of taxpayers regardless of who’s funding the building 🙃

 

And for the record I think a downtown stadium would have been sick. But it ain’t gonna happen, so I’m going to just continue to my my normal great time, in OP, but in a shiny new stadium 🙌🙌🙌

 

 

 

 

 

Simply stating it’s easier said than done to not support the team anymore. We’re all in this. I’m in my 40s. Been a die hard fan all my life. Moved away to different states. At the end of the day I never swayed in my love for this team. Through the best years we’ve had in the 90s and now, and through the worst of times with a revolving door of coaches and QBs that couldn’t get it done. 
 

like I said above. The time may come when it’s worth it to continue to pay the increases in ticket prices. For the product they put on the field for now, it’s worth it. If that continues once the new stadium is built, the increases at that time, and the product they put on the field is yet to be seen. There were time in the 17 year drought that you couldn’t give tickets away to games. I went to all of them. Every single one. Now there’s a 7k person waiting list for tickets. I wonder what that will look like after Josh is gone, and we can’t find another QB for 5+ years. When we haven’t made the playoffs in years. Will there still be a waiting list? Will people still be willing to spend $300+ to go to a single game? We will see. We will see. 
 

and for the record I haven’t brought up the downtown or some thing in like 3 pages. I’ve conceded in the arguments. 

Edited April 7, 2023 by mrags

[Mike in Horseheads]

34 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

Buffalo Bills fans and New York State saved the NFL franchise. Good compromise sell the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits. Terry Pegula losing crap with every arena team he owns doesn’t help with the decades of Buffalo Sabres suffering. How the hell do you own two NLL lacrosse teams the Buffalo Bandits and Rochester Knighthawks in a 15 team NLL professional lacrosse league and not win a thing in 12 years he has owned the Bandits nothing? That doesn’t make a Buffalo fans like myself filled with confidence Terry Pegula isn’t the village idiot as sports team owners. Corporate ownership that owns all the Buffalo sports together sucks that needs to end. Sell the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits Terry Pegula throw Buffalo fans a bone might go a long way mending fences public opinion wise in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Go Bandits! Let’s Go Buffalo 

You never disappoint, Maybe Terry can move Canisus Basketball into the dumpy arena

[Buffalo Super Fan]

14 hours ago, Beast said:

Put your money where your mouth is. Quit supporting the Buffalo Bills if the Pegula family offends you as much as you portray they do.

 

Otherwise, you are an utter fraud.

Who are you a Terry Pegula relative? Being a Buffalo Bills fan has nothing to do with liking or not liking the current Bills owner Terry Pegula who I think is incompetent bum who can’t win the big game with all the sports teams he owns which is hard to do. Example Terry Pegula owns two lacrosse teams Buffalo Bandits for 12 years and the Rochester Knighthawks for 2 years in a 15 team NLL and yet he can’t win a championship. Doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in Terry Pegula the Buffalo Bills owner because regardless of the new Bills stadium he doesn’t know what he is doing as a sports team owner. There will be more Buffalo fans to fill up the owner is incompetent boat as the years go bye. I am a pioneer one of the first Buffalo sports fans not clouded by Terry Pegula money. I am pretty sure basing this on 49 years of watching sports of all sorts over the years Terry Pegula isn’t winning unfortunately because of the whole lacrosse deal situation the Buffalo Bandits are the New York Yankees of NLL lacrosse even that cheap Tom Gollasono and Larry Quinn won one championship 2008. Buffalo Bandits it’s been 12 years of ownership and counting for Terry Pegula Buffalo Bandits and Buffalo Sabres ownership wake up Buffalo he doesn’t have it as a sports team owner we need a call to the bull pen please sell the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits we need a new owner in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Go Bandits! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Beast]

39 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

Who are you a Terry Pegula relative? Being a Buffalo Bills fan has nothing to do with liking or not liking the current Bills owner Terry Pegula who I think is incompetent bum who can’t win the big game with all the sports teams he owns which is hard to do. Example Terry Pegula owns two lacrosse teams Buffalo Bandits for 12 years and the Rochester Knighthawks for 2 years in a 15 team NLL and yet he can’t win a championship. Doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in Terry Pegula the Buffalo Bills owner because regardless of the new Bills stadium he doesn’t know what he is doing as a sports team owner. There will be more Buffalo fans to fill up the owner is incompetent boat as the years go bye. I am a pioneer one of the first Buffalo sports fans not clouded by Terry Pegula money. I am pretty sure basing this on 49 years of watching sports of all sorts over the years Terry Pegula isn’t winning unfortunately because of the whole lacrosse deal situation the Buffalo Bandits are the New York Yankees of NLL lacrosse even that cheap Tom Gollasono and Larry Quinn won one championship 2008. Buffalo Bandits it’s been 12 years of ownership and counting for Terry Pegula Buffalo Bandits and Buffalo Sabres ownership wake up Buffalo he doesn’t have it as a sports team owner we need a call to the bull pen please sell the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits we need a new owner in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Go Bandits! Let’s Go Buffalo 

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[CaptnCoke11]

Iron clad lol