MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) Bills now have 4.6M in space (Mancz, Lawson, Lee, Phillips, Johnson, Crowder and Barkely not accounted for) - Keenum is and his new Contract of 3.5M Also Bills currently sitting at 61 players (8 draft picks left) Right now the next contract to fall off the top 51 is Nick McCloud (825K) 8 picks has Brandon Bryant (895K falling off) so a 4th round pick will cost 5K increase on the cap, Third round will count 65K increase, 2nd round pick is about 300K increase. People really need to remember each player added is discounted right now by the contract it pushes off the top 51. Using Keenum for example. 3.5M cap hit. Pushed off Capra's (705K) so Keenum was only a 2.8M INCREASE against the 2022 cap Big Tickets left to open the most cap space Diggs - Extension Poyer - Extension Tre White - Restructure Dion Dawkins - Restructure Edmunds - Trade or Extension Still likely needed Swing OT - I doubt they feel comfortable with Doyle in that role right now UFA Bryan Bulaga (33) Eric Fisher (31) Daryl Williams (29) Zach Banner (28) Germain Ifedi (27) Cornelius Lucas (30) CB (need one, maybe 2. Right now it is Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis starting outside) - Tre likely gone for 6 weeks to start doubt plan is the unknown of what rookie falls to you in the draft. UFA Stephon Gilmore (31) Joe Haden (32) Kyle Fuller (30) Patrick Peterson (31) Tavon Young (28) Kevin King (26) - probably more of a nickel Jimmy Smith (33) AJ Bouye (30) Steven Nelson (29) Mike Hughes (25) Mackensie Alexander (28) Dontae Johnson (30) TRADE Bradberry Edited March 21, 2022 by MAJBobby 6 4 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Great post dude. Really helpful to keep up with things 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Bills now have 4.6M in space (Mancz, Lawson, Lee, Phillips not accounted for) - Keenum is and his new Contract of 3.5M Also Bills currently sitting at 61 players (8 draft picks left) Right now the next contract to fall off the top 51 is Nick McCloud (825K) 8 picks has Brandon Bryant (895K falling off) so a 4th round pick will cost 5K increase on the cap, Third round will count 65K increase, 2nd round pick is about 300K increase. People really need to remember each player added is discounted right now by the contract it pushes off the top 51. Using Keenum for example. 3.5M cap hit. Pushed off Capra's (705K) so Keenum was only a 2.8M INCREASE against the 2022 cap Big Tickets left to open the most cap space Diggs - Extension Poyer - Extension Tre White - Restructure Dion Dawkins - Restructure Edmunds - Trade or Extension Rumor is signed but nothing from National Guys (Matt Barkley) Still likely needed RB - Based off the McKissic stuff UFAs will put who is reported as connected Melvin Gordan (28) Tarik Cohen (26 INJ flag) Jalen Richard (28) Phillip Lindsay (27) Marlon Mack (26) Ronald Jones (24) Gio Benard (30) Leonard Fournette (27) - Visiting Patriots today Darrel Williams (26) TRADE - Based on Rumors Barkely McCaffery WR3/4 - Depends on how you feel with McKenzie or Stevenson (Hodgins Gentry) in the slot. - I think they will add a vet before the Draft though UFA Julio Jones (33) - Patriots Jarvis Landry (29) - Chiefs, Bills, GB Jamison Crowder (28) T.Y Hilton (32) Sammy Watkins (28) Zach Pascal (27) OBJ (29) Adam Humphries (28) Demarcus Robinson (27) Marquez Valdes-Scantling (27) TRADE - based on rumors DK Metclaf Lockett Shenault Swing OT - I doubt they feel comfortable with Doyle in that role right now UFA Bryan Bulaga (33) Eric Fisher (31) Daryl Williams (29) Zach Banner (28) Germain Ifedi (27) Cornelius Lucas (30) CB (need one, maybe 2. Right now it is Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis starting outside) - Tre likely gone for 6 weeks to start doubt plan is the unknown of what rookie falls to you in the draft. UFA Stephon Gilmore (31) Joe Haden (32) Kyle Fuller (30) Patrick Peterson (31) Tavon Young (28) Kevin King (26) - probably more of a nickel Jimmy Smith (33) AJ Bouye (30) Steven Nelson (29) Mike Hughes (25) Mackensie Alexander (28) Dontae Johnson (30) A lot of material to think about. Personnel moves will take into account the return job(s). If Bills think McKenzie and Steve son can handle it, then there isnt as much need for a "returner " at RB or WR. Could these 2, maybe Hodgins, fill the slot? I'm leaning toward a versatile WR like Oliver in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) Dontae Johnson is off the market, he re-upped. Edited March 21, 2022 by Coach Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Humphries was a name a lot of people around here wanted when he was last a free agent, correct? It was either him or Beasley if I remember correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: so a 4th round pick will cost 5K increase on the cap, I'm pretty sure that the yearly signing bonus for the rookies count against the Top 51 even if they end up under the Top 51. The Bills 4th Round pick has a $195k signing bonus so one-fourth would be counted against cap plus your $5k estimate. It's still way under what most fans think the rookie class costs. Good job with your OP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Dontae Johnson is off the market, he re-upped. Different player. Dontae Johnson I have in this list is from SF. Donte Jackson did re-sign in Carolina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chandler#81 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: CB (need one, maybe 2. Right now it is Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis starting outside) - Tre likely gone for 6 weeks to start doubt plan is the unknown of what rookie falls to you in the draft. TRADE Bradberry Where’d you hear this? Nevermind. You didn’t. I’ll be surprised -if not shocked-if Tre isn’t ready to go Opening day. But yes, we need at least 1 more vet added. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 And it looks like we can likely do the same. Time to shift to the Draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Different player. Dontae Johnson I have in this list is from SF. Donte Jackson did re-sign in Carolina. He really ought to change his name to something less confusing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Where’d you hear this? Nevermind. You didn’t. I’ll be surprised -if not shocked-if Tre isn’t ready to go Opening day. But yes, we need at least 1 more vet added. You want to try again? Nevermind. You won’t. 10.8 months has been the AVG timeline on an ACL tear in the NFL. So using that, yep likely does not see the field until week 6. The Recovery Tre’Davious White will need supreme conditioning of his thighs. Adrian Peterson famously came back in eight months to play after his ACL surgery. However, the average time it takes to return to play in the NFL is 10.8 months (4). With an estimated surgical date of December 16th, White should be back in October or November 2022. Barring an expedited recovery, White is a strong candidate to start next season on the PUP list. https://thebuffalofanatics.com/the-tredavious-white-acl-injury/ Edited March 21, 2022 by MAJBobby 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: No offense.. but should we believe anything BBB says during this time of year. Remember what BBB said after the KC loss... “We’ll still have to make some moves but I wouldn’t see us being like big spenders or anything like that. But we’ll definitely look to fill some spots from the outside as well as retain some of our guys” Go Bills! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: You want to try again? Nevermind. You won’t. 10.8 months has been the AVG timeline on an ACL tear in the NFL. So using that, yep likely does not see the field until week 6. The Recovery Tre’Davious White will need supreme conditioning of his thighs. Adrian Peterson famously came back in eight months to play after his ACL surgery. However, the average time it takes to return to play in the NFL is 10.8 months (4). With an estimated surgical date of December 16th, White should be back in October or November 2022. Barring an expedited recovery, White is a strong candidate to start next season on the PUP list. https://thebuffalofanatics.com/the-tredavious-white-acl-injury/ I'm not sure how these statistics are accurate or not skewed. Is being "back" just because he was ready by the opener but was actually could have played before? Peterson was at camp I believe which is mid to late July. I also remember seeing him doing plyometric drills I think in April of that year which is only 3 months after surgery. I've known about 10 people who have torn their ACL's. They don't have the world class trainers White will have and they're back usually after 6-7 months at full strength/training. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: And it looks like we can likely do the same. Time to shift to the Draft. I seriously hope this isn't the case considering the massive hole this team has right now at the DB position..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not sure how these statistics are accurate or not skewed. Is being "back" just because he was ready by the opener but was actually could have played before? Peterson was at camp I believe which is mid to late July. I also remember seeing him doing plyometric drills I think in April of that year which is only 3 months after surgery. I've known about 10 people who have torn their ACL's. They don't have the world class trainers White will have and they're back usually after 6-7 months at full strength/training. Well everyones body is different, those are the AVG timelines on recovery, and yes I know that they include bigger guys too like OL and DL in that, and smaller guys in theory should recover faster. One thing that we do know it Bills will play very safe on his injury like they always do with injuries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well everyones body is different, those are the AVG timelines on recovery, and yes I know that they include bigger guys too like OL and DL in that, and smaller guys in theory should recover faster. One thing that we do know it Bills will play very safe on his injury like they always do with injuries. What has attracted players to the Bills is our world class training facility. I think we got the top guys and resources to get our players ready. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he is back for the opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: What has attracted players to the Bills is our world class training facility. I think we got the top guys and resources to get our players ready. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he is back for the opener. OK you are Building a Team.... Do you build your team with the HOPE his body responds and is back Week 1 (knowing your coaching staff plays it safe all the time with INJ) OR do you Build your team looking at this as your CB1 and CB2 right now.... Dane and Cam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: OK you are Building a Team.... Do you build your team with the HOPE his body responds and is back Week 1 (knowing your coaching staff plays it safe all the time with INJ) OR do you Build your team looking at this as your CB1 and CB2 right now.... Dane and Cam I didn't think we were diving into this as well. I expect us to draft a corner in the 1st two rounds this year. I think you build the team knowing Tre will be back early if not the start of the season. I think Beane knows we need more corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: You want to try again? Nevermind. You won’t. 10.8 months has been the AVG timeline on an ACL tear in the NFL. So using that, yep likely does not see the field until week 6. The Recovery Tre’Davious White will need supreme conditioning of his thighs. Adrian Peterson famously came back in eight months to play after his ACL surgery. However, the average time it takes to return to play in the NFL is 10.8 months (4). With an estimated surgical date of December 16th, White should be back in October or November 2022. Barring an expedited recovery, White is a strong candidate to start next season on the PUP list. https://thebuffalofanatics.com/the-tredavious-white-acl-injury/ Just a note that while that is the average, it’s been trending shorter and that average also includes players with multiple ligaments or complications Banged up Bills did an update where Tre seems to have avoided both. His estimate was that Tre might try to come back early, but the Bills might hold him out 9 months which would be mid-Sept from his surgery. Apparently there’s a higher risk of reinjury coming back sooner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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