John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 That wont totally mess us up down the road? Looking at the cap thread it looks like we are now really up against it (but Beane has done a great job so far) When you have those unicorns on both sides of the ball (Allen on O, Miller on D) I realize that we are going to draft and play rookies because they are on cost controlled contracts. Do we keep Ryan Bates? Who is our slot receiver? Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 I’m not advocating for this, but: If they want to extend Edmunds, they could, in theory, lower his hit this year and push money down the road. Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2022 Author Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:11 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m not advocating for this, but: If they want to extend Edmunds, they could, in theory, lower his hit this year and push money down the road. Expand I dont think Edmunds is a bad player but according to the cap thread he is cost 10 million towards our cap....... If pick 25 went to a LB....I wouldnt like it at first but I would understand it 1 Quote
17islongenough Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 You can convert players salaries for the year to a bonus. But that pushes that cap down the road. You can extend Diggs, Poyer and Edmunds. You can cut a couple of guys but that just creates more holes. If I was Beane I would not do any of that unless they can sign a guy who plays a lot this year Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:11 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m not advocating for this, but: If they want to extend Edmunds, they could, in theory, lower his hit this year and push money down the road. Expand Beane was specifically asked about Edmunds in his presser yesterday and said they would leave it "as it is". He was more positive about possibly extending Diggs, saying it has to work for both sides but they would look at it "when the time is right". But he also sounded like he was in no hurry. It surprises me because when I looked at the Bills salary cap in February those were the two big tickets that struck me as where to get room, but that just shows why Beane is Beane and I don't work in a football FO 5 Quote
Process Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 Extend Diggs and Poyer, trade Edmunds, restructure Dawkins 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:15 PM, John from Riverside said: I dont think Edmunds is a bad player but according to the cap thread he is cost 10 million towards our cap....... If pick 25 went to a LB....I wouldnt like it at first but I would understand it Expand I think Edmunds could be elite being on the field with Von Miller, might be cheaper to extend him now 4 Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2022 Author Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:40 PM, uticaclub said: I think Edmunds could be elite being on the field with Von Miller, might be cheaper to extend him now Expand I feel like a decision needs to be made....we just dont have the cap to sit on it Well we do but it would require other moves we dont have numbers on some of the guys we brought in and are at about 2 million which is not enough to sign our draft picks Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:37 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Beane was specifically asked about Edmunds in his presser yesterday and said they would leave it "as it is". He was more positive about possibly extending Diggs, saying it has to work for both sides but they would look at it "when the time is right". But he also sounded like he was in no hurry. It surprises me because when I looked at the Bills salary cap in February those were the two big tickets that struck me as where to get room, but that just shows why Beane is Beane and I don't work in a football FO Expand When they released Klien, I thought an Edmunds extension was imminent. I guess I was wrong. 1 Quote
YattaOkasan Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:41 PM, John from Riverside said: I feel like a decision needs to be made....we just dont have the cap to sit on it Well we do but it would require other moves we dont have numbers on some of the guys we brought in and are at about 2 million which is not enough to sign our draft picks Expand 2 mill should be fine for the rooks. Though as you may have been trying to say it might not be enough considering the unknown contracts Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2022 Author Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:49 PM, YattaOkasan said: 2 mill should be fine for the rooks. Though as you may have been trying to say it might not be enough considering the unknown contracts Expand Yes thanks 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:08 PM, John from Riverside said: That wont totally mess us up down the road? Looking at the cap thread it looks like we are now really up against it (but Beane has done a great job so far) When you have those unicorns on both sides of the ball (Allen on O, Miller on D) I realize that we are going to draft and play rookies because they are on cost controlled contracts. Do we keep Ryan Bates? Who is our slot receiver? Expand I honestly have no idea what to expect next. Yes, I want to keep Bates but I learned a few years ago to just trust the process McBeane have installed. I’ve clicked on here as often these past 7 days as I did during the playoffs! 2 Quote
First Round Bust Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 also have to come up with cap to pay for the draft just over 6M Plus usual 2M that BBB (Big Baller Beano) likes to do annually, plus Bates, plus vet slot ? Additionally, I think 1M of Keenum deal was paid for by the Browns yesterday in roster bonus so that helps extensions...Diggs for sure, Edmunds, Poyer, Knox possbly as those 3 are in last years of contract. Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2022 Author Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:53 PM, First Round Bust said: also have to come up with cap to pay for the draft just over 6M Plus usual 2M that BBB (Big Baller Beano) likes to do annually, plus Bates, plus vet slot ? Additionally, I think 1M of Keenum deal was paid for by the Browns yesterday in roster bonus so that helps extensions...Diggs for sure, Edmunds, Poyer, Knox possbly as those 3 are in last years of contract. Expand I dont think we need 6 million to pay for the draft due to some of the later contracts not counting towards the cap. Quote
GolfandBills Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:53 PM, First Round Bust said: also have to come up with cap to pay for the draft just over 6M Plus usual 2M that BBB (Big Baller Beano) likes to do annually, plus Bates, plus vet slot ? Additionally, I think 1M of Keenum deal was paid for by the Browns yesterday in roster bonus so that helps extensions...Diggs for sure, Edmunds, Poyer, Knox possbly as those 3 are in last years of contract. Expand Draft won’t cost 6 million. Maybe 3 after the people get bumped in and out of the top 51 1 Quote
First Round Bust Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:55 PM, GolfandBills said: Draft won’t cost 6 million. Maybe 3 after the people get bumped in and out of the top 51 Expand spotrac info below- sincewe usually keep the top 5 picks on the roster - they will hit the cap at around 5+ to 6M..pricey snot rookies If we dont draft J Williams at 25 which is my only hope for keeping the pick, I trade down for a 2nd and 3rd - giving a 4th or 5th - I aint doing the cap math on conjecture just yet Quote
Brennan Huff Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 One option Beane has is to trade Allen. I don’t think he would do it but It would help getting us back under the cap 1 2 Quote
17islongenough Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 11:08 PM, Brennan Huff said: One option Beane has is to trade Allen. I don’t think he would do it but It would help getting us back under the cap Expand Not a great idea this year. Now I like the idea of the trade but he has a $93 million dead cap hit 2 Quote
Brennan Huff Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 11:18 PM, 17islongenough said: Not a great idea this year. Now I like the idea of the trade but he has a $93 million dead cap hit Expand Might want to avoid that cap hit if we can. Maybe next year Quote
JohnNord Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:08 PM, John from Riverside said: That wont totally mess us up down the road? Looking at the cap thread it looks like we are now really up against it (but Beane has done a great job so far) When you have those unicorns on both sides of the ball (Allen on O, Miller on D) I realize that we are going to draft and play rookies because they are on cost controlled contracts. Do we keep Ryan Bates? Who is our slot receiver? Expand Who knows but Beane has always been good with the cap so I’m not concerned Quote
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