Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Just reading about Georgia and their DT usage. The best DT is Jalen Carter, top 10 pick next year. No wonder they rotate those guys so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 23 hours ago, mannc said: Two sacks this year, and he usually comes off the field on third down…no thanks. At least not at 25. You need not worry. Not a chance he falls that far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I wouldn't obsess so much with the 2 down player narrative. Picture this: On any down Mahommes can pass and start rolling out. Davis from the interior will shed the guard like a rag doll and with his 4.78 speed will chase down Mahommes as he sprints to the sidelines. Mahommes won't be able to outrun Davis as we'll have a 351 LB monster laying a huge hit on him and harassing Mahommes all game long. Finally !!! Im not against drafting him, but I don't know why people think he will suddenly do this to one of the best and most athletic QB's in the NFL like Mahomes when he didn't do this in college. He seems to be more of a Star replacement as a space eater and run stuffer than someone who is gonna get at the QB. Running fast and playing fast are not the same thing, makes me wonder why that speed isn't reflected more in his college production and resume. Edited March 6, 2022 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Just reading about Georgia and their DT usage. The best DT is Jalen Carter, top 10 pick next year. No wonder they rotate those guys so much. I understand the rotation but Davis literally said his job is not to play on 3rd down, it’s to get to 3rd Down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I understand the rotation but Davis literally said his job is not to play on 3rd down, it’s to get to 3rd Down. And I hate how teams just play uptempo whenever he’s on the field, to basically render him useless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Just now, JaCrispy said: And I hate how teams just play uptempo whenever he’s on the field, to basically render him useless... Lol. We're getting use to calling players on number 1 defenses useless and a liability. 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I understand the rotation but Davis literally said his job is not to play on 3rd down, it’s to get to 3rd Down. Someone told Davis his job. Everyone had their role to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 50 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Im not against drafting him, but I don't know why people think he will suddenly do this to one of the best and most athletic QB's in the NFL like Mahomes when he didn't do this in college. He seems to be more of a Star replacement as a space eater and run stuffer than someone who is gonna get at the QB. Running fast and playing fast are not the same thing, makes me wonder why that speed isn't reflected more in his college production and resume. HE absolutely plays fast. He was constantly in the back field and getting quick jump off of the ball. He absolutely can chase down a QB as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Green Lightning said: How about stopping the run and keeping OL off of Tremaine. I will take that in a heartbeat and at 25. I actually would support the pick.....just commenting on how the bills seem to feel about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I actually would support the pick.....just commenting on how the bills seem to feel about it I heard all week that Wyatt is more likely the Bills guy because he's a freakish athlete. Then Davis showed he's actually the freak. It's going to be interesting. We will be lucky if either guy is available. If both are I'm taking Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I heard all week that Wyatt is more likely the Bills guy because he's a freakish athlete. Then Davis showed he's actually the freak. It's going to be interesting. We will be lucky if either guy is available. If both are I'm taking Davis. Either guy would help immediately....we need to see if a 2 gapping DT would help Edmunds before the decision on his contract. I still feel that corner and wide receiver are also logical picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Either guy would help immediately....we need to see if a 2 gapping DT would help Edmunds before the decision on his contract. I still feel that corner and wide receiver are also logical picks Can't agree enough. Keep the LBs clean from second level OL mauling. Davis will make Oliver even more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Can't agree enough. Keep the LBs clean from second level OL mauling. Davis will make Oliver even more effective. So we want to draft the type of player that Star was supposed to be? If either one of the top 4 cb’s or top 4 wr’s fall to 25 you draft that player. If not then you either trade down or take your DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Magox said: It is not atrocious, against top competition he was a persistently a factor. You’re just looking at his stats and coming to that conclusion, sort of like what many did with Josh Allen coming out of college. His film shows that he is not just a bull rusher but actually has really good gap burst. He could actually become a highly effective DT in helping collapse the pocket. Not to mention his near 6’7 height would be a net positive in helping bat passes down and not providing a clear passing lane. With that said, there is a question whether or not he has the discipline to continue to improve. If he is just one of those guys that does the necessary to get by then he will end up being an OK DT tackle in the league, which is not what you would want out of your first round pick. So for me it’s a matter of determining if he has that drive to continuously get better. If so, then he ends up being a probowl caliber player. I think we’re in similar spots. I stated why I think he doesn’t seem disciplined. I’ll agree his ceiling is as high as anyones but I have said why I don’t think he’s disciplined. Thus as you say hes not what you want out of a first round pick. what if he’s very lazy and has been getting by based off his athleticism? to provide more evidence to my previous post. Others have mentioned joe Marino is down on him because of his discipline. This past season he said he wanted to win a championship (good for him getting it) and control his weight (he didn’t do that). He also said after the first bama game (sorry no link but again Marino show) that we wasn’t conditioned enough. So yeah the stats are not the end all be all but I didn’t say that. he had one of the worst pressure rates of all FBS DT, and I was trying to say his apparent lack of discipline PLUS the stats are why I’m a pass. If we draft I’ll root for him. If he turns into an all pro then I’ll eat crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Guy is a beast. I’m good with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 21 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Look at his play on the field. I don't put much stock in the combine results. Imho, too many red flags on this guy to take at 25. Hard pass for me. Didn’t this guy win the Outland and Bednarik awards? And was in top 10 for the Heisman. The weight is a concern but you ain’t getting sure things at Pick 25. And this guy could be an All Pro if he wants to be. I’m cool with it at Pick 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Didn’t this guy win the Outland and Bednarik awards? And was in top 10 for the Heisman. The weight is a concern but you ain’t getting sure things at Pick 25. And this guy could be an All Pro if he wants to be. I’m cool with it at Pick 25. Yea his play on the field is top 10 worthy a true disrupter if there ever was one. Im still trying to figure out where this "lazy" "unmotivated" crap comes from. https://uga.rivals.com/news/jordan-davis-gets-results-not-stats “I remember at one point in the game, I had three people on me, Davis said. “We got a pretty good stop on that one too. I take pride in that. It’s a real big feeling of accomplishment if I have two people on me.” When asked why he requested an area instead of receiving one from the coaches, Davis said it was just an aspect of being a leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, CountDorkula said: HE absolutely plays fast. He was constantly in the back field and getting quick jump off of the ball. He absolutely can chase down a QB as well. In the NFL that will just be a face full of rubber pellets for Davis.........and still a first down either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: In the NFL that will just be a face full of rubber pellets for Davis.........and still a first down either way. He’s faster than any of our Defensive Ends who made Mahomes look like Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Yea his play on the field is top 10 worthy a true disrupter if there ever was one. Im still trying to figure out where this "lazy" "unmotivated" crap comes from. https://uga.rivals.com/news/jordan-davis-gets-results-not-stats “I remember at one point in the game, I had three people on me, Davis said. “We got a pretty good stop on that one too. I take pride in that. It’s a real big feeling of accomplishment if I have two people on me.” When asked why he requested an area instead of receiving one from the coaches, Davis said it was just an aspect of being a leader. below is him saying his conditioning in the SEC title game was a problem. That seems to be a motivation problem. He’s in shape now. Great. That’s sorta like playing well in a contract year. Why was conditioning a problem at the end of the season? Up tempo is clearly something that he will see in the NFL. https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/georgias-340-pound-dl-jordan-davis-admits-conditioning-was-off-against-alabama.html?outputType=amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) On 3/5/2022 at 5:05 PM, BADOLBILZ said: He was clocked at 20mph in the season........a 4.78 40 is the equivalent of running about 18.75 mph.........that's consistent with his in season clocking. The big problem with Davis is that he plays very tall.........so he doesn't play with leverage.......skinny track legs on a huge upper body. Convert this kid to TE. 😁 Edited March 7, 2022 by badassgixxer05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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