Logic Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: McDuffie's arm length is a real concern. Joe Marino pointed out today there hasn't been an all-pro CB in over a decade with under 30" arms. Only 3 all-pros under 32" arms. It's something NFL teams value, the Bills under McDermott in particular. Yeah. The thing I seem to keep reading from scouts about McDuffie is that no one expects him to be elite or a perennial All-Pro, but everyone expects him to play 10 years and to have a really safe floor due to his technical proficiency and football IQ. Just a solid, pro's pro type who will stick around the league a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, HappyDays said: McDuffie's arm length is a real concern. Joe Marino pointed out today there hasn't been an all-pro CB in over a decade with under 30" arms. Only 3 all-pros under 32" arms. It's something NFL teams value, the Bills under McDermott in particular. Its the only reason why he would even be there at 25 because he has been lockdown in college. I am starting to hope that we bring in a vet......and that all the corners get taken before we pick making the decision form someone like zion johnson or olive an easy pick for us. If we dont go with a guy like McDuffie......and we cant get a decent vet in here to spell till Tre is ready I think we are going to be revisiting this. Miami alone get closer to our heels if we dont have coverage to stop their weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 The only gripe I have is that Breece Hall is from Iowa State, not Iowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I like Olive......still think McDuffie is the play I think that he’s Beanes #1 guy and if Olave is there, we are sprinting to the podium. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think that he’s Beanes #1 guy and if Olave is there, we are sprinting to the podium. Wont throw my TV out the window if its the pick. I need to see what we are going to do at corner......you can go throwing mid round picks and Dane Jackson on the field when the season rolls around and I dont expect Tre to be 100 percent at the start of the season. Besides this......people are acting like McDuffie is a consolation prize....he is not.....strong chance he wont even be there for us to pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Wont throw my TV out the window if its the pick. I need to see what we are going to do at corner......you can go throwing mid round picks and Dane Jackson on the field when the season rolls around and I dont expect Tre to be 100 percent at the start of the season. Besides this......people are acting like McDuffie is a consolation prize....he is not.....strong chance he wont even be there for us to pick. I agree…I just don’t think that Beane will go into the draft with our current Cb situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Wont throw my TV out the window if its the pick. I need to see what we are going to do at corner......you can go throwing mid round picks and Dane Jackson on the field when the season rolls around and I dont expect Tre to be 100 percent at the start of the season. Besides this......people are acting like McDuffie is a consolation prize....he is not.....strong chance he wont even be there for us to pick. I agree. I think McDuffie will be long gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Its the only reason why he would even be there at 25 because he has been lockdown in college. Yeah but McDermott and Beane put a premium on physical talent in the 1st round. I don't see a short armed CB being the pick under any circumstances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tanoros Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To all those saying the Bills need a corner, I 100% agree. But McDuffie and McCreary with their alligator arms are reaches and questionable fits for a zone scheme. While I think Kyler Gordon is a back half of round 1 talent the consensus seems to disagree. So what do the Bills do if the top 3 corners are off the board by #25? Trade up to get one? Trade back to take one of the second tier guys where value fits better? Possibly. Brandon Beane says he is strict BPA. If that is true I very much doubt a corner ends up being that at #25 or #57. I think a corner is a major need and indeed that is the position I ultimately think the Bills end up taking in the 1st. But to do so either they reach or they move around the board. Maybe someone will want to trade up with us to jump Chiefs and Packers to select a qb? I also really like Gordon, and would love to see him with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Tanoros said: Maybe someone will want to trade up with us to jump Chiefs and Packers to select a qb? I also really like Gordon, and would love to see him with us. Why trade ahead of those two teams, neither of whom would take a QB? Even Jax at top of Rd 2 doesn't need a QB. Granted, getting a QB low in Rd 1 assures 5th year option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Why trade ahead of those two teams, neither of whom would take a QB? Even Jax at top of Rd 2 doesn't need a QB. Granted, getting a QB low in Rd 1 assures 5th year option. Yea it is finding a team with the need and the ammunition thats tough. Detroit has a need but also already has #32. I suppose if they don't take one with #2 could they want to jump Tampa? Maybe. Carolina has a need no second rounder. Seattle and Atlanta are options if the Bills are willing to slide all the way down to #40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 21 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: Do you think it likely that the Bills would consider a small trade up in round 1 to nab a CB? I could see us leaping over New England if Booth falls...maybe a 3rd rounder could get us to #19... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I could see us leaping over New England if Booth falls...maybe a 3rd rounder could get us to #19... Booth is someone I could see us trading up for… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 8:14 AM, GunnerBill said: If Olave is there at 25 it's a no brainer. I expect he'll go earlier, but I'd love, love, love this pick and I don't think he is someone the Bills could pass by. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Tom Brady laughs at the thought of the Bucs drafting a QB round 1 this year… An immediate contributor will be the pick in the search for another ring… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Seattle and Atlanta are options if the Bills are willing to slide all the way down to #40. I would trade down with Seattle only if they gave us both of their 2nds (40 and 41). The draft value chart says we'd get a significantly higher value in that trade, but we'd be giving up a 5th year option and trade ups for QBs always carry more value. If they offer that package to jump ahead of TB for a QB I'd do it in a heartbeat. It seems that the players picked between 25 and 50 will all have very similar draft grades. I would love to grab two of those players and draft some combination of CB and WR and OL by the time round 2 is over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I would trade down with Seattle only if they gave us both of their 2nds (40 and 41). The draft value chart says we'd get a significantly higher value in that trade, but we'd be giving up a 5th year option and trade ups for QBs always carry more value. If they offer that package to jump ahead of TB for a QB I'd do it in a heartbeat. It seems that the players picked between 25 and 50 will all have very similar draft grades. I would love to grab two of those players and draft some combination of CB and WR and OL by the time round 2 is over. Would love it, but I think the trade value is too much in Bills’ favor for Seattle to be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Would love it, but I think the trade value is too much in Bills’ favor for Seattle to be interested. Yeah we'd probably have to throw something else in. But I wouldn't trade out of the 1st unless it was really worth our while. As long as Allen is here he's going to take up a lot of cap space, so 5th year options will be especially valuable to us for the next 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I would trade down with Seattle only if they gave us both of their 2nds (40 and 41). The draft value chart says we'd get a significantly higher value in that trade, but we'd be giving up a 5th year option and trade ups for QBs always carry more value. If they offer that package to jump ahead of TB for a QB I'd do it in a heartbeat. It seems that the players picked between 25 and 50 will all have very similar draft grades. I would love to grab two of those players and draft some combination of CB and WR and OL by the time round 2 is over. I like it, but it would be the first trade down of Beane’s career…I can’t see it happening. And Seattle really needs those second round picks…if they like a QB, they’ll draft one at 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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