prissythecat Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Actually.....you are losing horribly. I stated that the team should put up points - because they are biult like a dome team You through up some sort of unrelated arguement about their record I told you that they have lost games they should have won They literally lost to two teams we dominated....including the Washington Football Team It has NOTHING to do with their record my arguement never had anything to with their record stop acting like a mook Its a problem...but we have faced teams that can get pressure this year with success. The real question is are they dominating on their O and D lines consistantly because that is what we have extreme trouble with Ahh. An argument base on transitivity. Because we beat the shell of the Saints and the Saints beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs. Similarly, because we beat WFT and WFT beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs . I like it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I love our chances to get a W. We are still a dangerous team Um 95% of this board is doom and gloom, they'll have none of this optimism. But I'm with you and the 5%. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Ahh. An argument base on transitivity. Because we beat the shell of the Saints and the Saints beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs. Similarly, because we beat WFT and WFT beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs . I like it. It has nothing to do with that it has to do with inferior teams beat the better team.......so lets not act like the bucs dont also have their flaws Do I really have to spell this out for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I definitely think we can win, but I have this in the books as a loss. This place is gonna be pretty intolerable next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Bruce Smith said: NE pounded this front due to the weather and we threw more than we could run and we lost. With Tampa, we need to do the opposite. We need to throw 50 times this game because we certainly cannot run on TB D. The staff got roasted for not running against NE and they likely heard it. Will the criticism make them run more? Fact: we ran 25 times and passed 30 times vs NE. That's 3.96 ypa and 43% of our yards on 45% of our plays, which says the running game was as productive as any play on that day. Cover1 has a nice breakdown of the TD throw to Davis and explains how it was set up by the run - we sold it to NE as a run play and that opened it up. That's the point that McDermott keeps trying to make - not that we have to "run more" than we ran against NE, but that we simply can't pass on 40 of our 53 offensive play attempts as we did vs. the Colts (11 to the backs) or worse, on 14 of 61 attempts (9 to the backs) as we did vs. the Jaguars. He would like the OL to be more physical, hold their blocks better and open more holes in the run game, and pass protect better. He would like the run plays to be more effective - a few more 10 or 8 or 5 or even 3 yd runs and a few less 1 or -1 yd runs. We aren't going to try to "run more" against TB, but if we come out and try to play a spread offense and sling it all over the field and pass 50 times, we're going to lose, because the Bucs are going to say "no need to worry about you running, eh? fine, we'll get tricksy on how we play the pass" 1 hour ago, Bruce Smith said: Styles makes the fight. TB is 180 degrees NE as an opponent. We need to attack them differently. I disagree. Both TB and NE have a very stout DL and front 7, and sound run defense as well as excellent stats on pressuring the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, billsherd said: This exactly what I'm thinking. Get in the playoffs and see. You could luck out playing teams that bills match up well against or bills could get hot and go on a winning streak. To quote the late great Mickey from Rocky. " You can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one gets filled first" Your post is possible, but not looking likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: Ahh. An argument base on transitivity. Because we beat the shell of the Saints and the Saints beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs. Similarly, because we beat WFT and WFT beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs . I like it. I'm giving your post an awesome only because of your use of the word transitivity! Great use of that term to illustrate your point. Well done!! 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, prissythecat said: Ahh. An argument base on transitivity. Because we beat the shell of the Saints and the Saints beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs. Similarly, because we beat WFT and WFT beat the Bucs, we should beat the Bucs . I like it. Should we mention that the Bucs beat the Patriots and Colts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Steptide said: I definitely think we can win, but I have this in the books as a loss. This place is gonna be pretty intolerable next week. Oh the humanity.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Washington is playing pretty well, finally, but they're not great. So, how did they beat Tampa, and why can't we follow their method? There's no part of Washington's team that's better than the equivalent part on the Bills. There is no reason at all the Bills can't win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Should we mention that the Bucs beat the Patriots and Colts? The Bucs beat the Pats in early October, before NE started playing well. And that was by 2 points. The Bucs beat the Colts in a really good, tough, competitive game that was fun to watch, and that could have gone either way. But, the Colts are the unBills. Where we can't run, they can't pass very well. Their offensive strength was countered by Tampa's defensive strength. Tampa is NOT as good on pass defense as they are on run defense. The Bills are still extremely talented. If Josh gets time to pass, the Bills should win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: If the line can hold up. Tampa is savage at creating pass rush/getting sacks. I believe top 5 in both categories The eye test tells me both lines on both sides of the ball are just awful. We are in a lot of trouble for the rest of the season. Sux because the window is small 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Of course we need to throw like crazy! Will we? I hope so. If these guys start going on a desperate crusade to prove we are "tough" and can "build a run game" our season is already over! 16 hours ago, Steptide said: I definitely think we can win, but I have this in the books as a loss. This place is gonna be pretty intolerable next week. Disagree. It's been hard sledding THIS week b/c almost everyone here felt we would beat the Patriots one way or the other, especially at home. But very few expect us to beat Tampa, and a loss there does very little to our playoff hopes at large (if people are doing their homework and know what's going on). I think next week will be about the same or better than this week. I've enjoyed it to be honest; so many kool aid drinkers took the entire week off this week. It's been nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 17 hours ago, prissythecat said: Weren't the Saints still reasonable talented when they faced Tampa? I think Kamara was still there and so was Jameis? We faced the corpse that was left after injuries. And WFT is actually a competitive team right now. Kamara had 76 yards on 22 touches - they won that game by being +3 on turnover diff. Kamara hasn't been that great this year either. His 3.6 YPC average is barely better than moss, who is having an absolutely terrible year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 6:37 PM, Bangarang said: I imagine Brady will have all day to throw and our defense will get picked apart. Josh will literally have to do everything on his own but we still lose in a blowout. People get super mad at Beane for investing so many resources in a defensive line that cannot get to the QB. Another week of misery. Ahem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We're not fooling anybody, bro......we're a one trick pony that the NFL has figured out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Ahem Enjoy being right more than Bills do well, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Enjoy being right more than Bills do well, eh? This wasn’t difficult to see coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Edmunds GTFO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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