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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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7 hours ago, aristocrat said:

I remember when I was told trump was gonna start world war 3.  Lotta people got big mad.  Those people are quiet now

@Chef Jim Why you gotta bring up Trump? He’s a one term loser 

59 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You're the one crying about protecting Democracies.  You want bloodshed when a simple "No NATO for Ukraine" will suffice?  Just so Putin won't tell us what to do?

 

Yet you didn't have a problem with Putin telling Joey what to do about Nord Stream 2.  So which is it?

Putin’s a terrorists. You trust a terrorist? 

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:


Hey look!!!  Someone just discovered the search function.  
 

You do understand how incredibly stupid this makes you look right? 

No search function, just looked a current posts. You are wrong, right? 

 

Just admit  it you are wrong 

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

US Embassy in Kiev is to be evacuated as Russia mobilizes for ‘invasion of Ukraine on Wednesday.’

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10504795/US-Embassy-Kiev-evacuated-Russia-mobilizes-invasion-Ukraine-Wednesday.html

 

 

 

Wednesday ? 

 

🤔

 

 

There’s a message there. Biden’s showing Putin we can read their communications. That’s big.

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49 minutes ago, BillStime said:


HA! This has nothing to do with NATO - and so naive to think “No NATO for Ukraine” will appease Putin. 

 

Has Putin stopped undermining the United States?

 

 

 

your prob right! 

 

putin watched the inept military operation that weaponized the enemy with millions of dollars of high tech war machinery, killed service members because it couldn't implement a basic security plan and then proceeded to TARGET innocent people as a "retaliation". hell they were even inept at the lie. the coverup attempt was debunked less then 24 hrs later by every media source we have. 

 

yeah, i think he sees a nice opportunity when it comes to this administration. this kind of dysfunctional leadership will be taken advantage of by all our enemies. 

 

here's the part where you deflect. funny how putin never tryed to invade anyone for 4 years when his "puppet" would have sat back and let him have it. you cultists can trump your way out of all the disasters this administration is bringing on us. historically low polls shows the flock is getting smaller and smaller. 

 

give up the schtick.

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No search function, just looked a current posts. You are wrong, right? 

 

Just admit it you are wrong  


Current posts. Westies post was how many days ago??  😂😂😂😂😂
 

Admit I’m wrong?  About what?  
 

You are so triggered you don’t even know what you’re arguing about. 

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23 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

your prob right! 

 

putin watched the inept military operation that weaponized the enemy with millions of dollars of high tech war machinery, killed service members because it couldn't implement a basic security plan and then proceeded to TARGET innocent people as a "retaliation". hell they were even inept at the lie. the coverup attempt was debunked less then 24 hrs later by every media source we have. 

 

yeah, i think he sees a nice opportunity when it comes to this administration. this kind of dysfunctional leadership will be taken advantage of by all our enemies. 

 

here's the part where you deflect. funny how putin never tryed to invade anyone for 4 years when his "puppet" would have sat back and let him have it. you cultists can trump your way out of all the disasters this administration is bringing on us. historically low polls shows the flock is getting smaller and smaller. 

 

give up the schtick.


 

Trump literally paved the way for what we see today with Putin.

 

Putin couldn’t be more proud of his assets negotiation with the Taliban.

 

Tell us the last time a US President negotiated with terrorists; excluded the government the United States spent trillions building from said negotiations - and then just hand over the keys of Afghanistan to the Taliban while also negotiating the release of 5,000 imprisoned Taliban terrorists; received nothing in return including American hostages.

 

Was it perfect? No but Biden brought our troops home from a forever war Trump campaigned on doing in 2016 and failed.

 

And yes - I’ll put my money on our American troops unlike Putin’s who you clearly support.

 

America first my ash

 

PS: Why did the Trump campaign gut the GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in 2016?


Which party spent their Fourth of July with Putin?

 

Which party and media sources are parroting Russian talking points?

 

Putin first

 

 

Idiots

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8 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Jake Sullivan at his WH press conference what some reporter compared what he was doing to what happened in 2003

 

"We are trying to stop a war. Back in 2003 this room, this office was being used to gin up a war" 

 

 

Mr. Sullivan's statement represents a gross disregard for what happened prior to 2003.

The US, the UN and coalition governments tried for years to get the ceasefire agreement signed in 1991.

Compliance never happened, thus we got to 2003, as babysitting a rogue regime was not going to last.

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Just now, sherpa said:

 

Mr. Sullivan's statement represents a gross disregard for what happened prior to 2003.

The US, the UN and coalition governments tried for years to get the ceasefire agreement signed in 1991.

Compliance never happened, thus we got to 2003, as babysitting a rogue regime was not going to last.

Bull. They ginned up a war, lied and used the emotion around 9-11 so Bush could get they guy who “tried to kill my daddy” 

 

 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:


HA! This has nothing to do with NATO - and so naive to think “No NATO for Ukraine” will appease Putin. 

 

Has Putin stopped undermining the United States?

 

 

 

 

Not totally but it absolutely has everything to do with the EU.

 

 

Let's simplify what's going on.  All this focus on NATO is legitimate but the real issue is the closer ties to the EU.  

 

The globalist influences in Ukraine want it to be fully part of the EU.  It did Economically in 2014.  CCP DNC style socialists.

 

The other half of Ukraine want no part of the EU.  Trump style Nationalists.  I can't put numbers on each side but a pro Russian president was elected in 2010 and removed by EU/CCP/DNC forces in 2014.  

 

The left as you know has been in freak out mode since Brexit and Trump.....this is all exactly like those dynamics only Russia is going to use its military to support. 

 

They figured out long ago the West was losing to the CCP - and Obama's election was proof.  And Obama followed up Putin's actions by doing nothing.  Hash tag diplomacy.

 

Knowing what I know about the globalist scum behing the EU and the Democrats here in the U.S. and everything we've learned post Covid, not sure I'm all that angry at Putin.  Who absolutely is trying to benefit politically and to increase Russia's power and influence overall.

 

I'll ask.....influence against who?  

 

 

The world has totally flipped upside down.  The DNC here and the trash we're trying to remove from the GOP are Chinese puppets.  

 

Justin Trudeau has shown you in just the last 7 days how they've all abandoned Western principles in exchange for CCP style Socialism.  

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2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Biden warns Putin of 'severe costs' of Ukraine invasion

 

President Joe Biden on Saturday again called on President Vladimir Putin to pull back more than 100,000 Russian troops massed near Ukraine's borders and warned that the U.S. and its allies would "respond decisively and impose swift and severe costs" if Russia invades, according to the White House.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-joe-biden-emmanuel-macron-europe-moscow-1f353699f0be1609da5435c98cfc8022

 

 

 

Need WWIII to distract from the disaster the left turned the world into with covid.  So how about a bigger disaster.  

 

What a mess

Exactly!

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27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Bull. They ginned up a war, lied and used the emotion around 9-11 so Bush could get they guy who “tried to kill my daddy” 

 

 

 

Absolute nonsense.

The intel reports were uniform in conclusion and presented to both House and Senate Committees, as well as the White House.

The vote is a historical record.

The White House, while probably more leaning to using force, did not generate its own intel, nor the UK's nor anyone else's.

I have no animosity towards you, but you seem to be so politically oriented that you are either ignorant of, or deny, reality.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:


 

Trump literally paved the way for what we see today with Putin.

 

Putin couldn’t be more proud of his assets negotiation with the Taliban.

 

Tell us the last time a US President negotiated with terrorists; excluded the government the United States spent trillions building from said negotiations - and then just hand over the keys of Afghanistan to the Taliban while also negotiating the release of 5,000 imprisoned Taliban terrorists; received nothing in return including American hostages.

 

Was it perfect? No but Biden brought our troops home from a forever war Trump campaigned on doing in 2016 and failed.

 

And yes - I’ll put my money on our American troops unlike Putin’s who you clearly support.

 

America first my ash

 

PS: Why did the Trump campaign gut the GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in 2016?


Which party spent their Fourth of July with Putin?

 

Which party and media sources are parroting Russian talking points?

 

Putin first

 

 

Idiots

 

i did not get a meme or cupcake reference so that's good. its good you made a opinion on the withdrawal but you are still deflecting.

 

you say who negotiated with terrorist? umm wasnt the iran deal a negotiation with known terrorists? its happen all the time if you include any treaties, ceasefire ect ect with groups. its called compromises to stop bloodshed and all out wars from breaking out. your being hyperbolic so you dont have to confront what i said. hell the taliban was basically recognized and negotiated with the min they took power in the capital in a week..ohhh my god its never happened!! what did we get in return!! idiiiots!!

 

what did we get in return for the millions of dollars in war machines we casually left with the keys in the ignition? has that ever happened before? 

 

this was about the incompetence of the operation and how that's perceived by our enemies and how quickly they seem to want to test that incompetence again.

 

truckers aren't terrorist because they are asking for what the government took. nothing more nothing less. your side has been squealing about follow the science for over 2 years!! murders!! same insane dramatics you always use and now that actual studies are finally being done and finding out what you been told THE ENTIRE TIME its hard to admit you were wrong. that comes with a ton of economic and psychological devastation at your feet so i understand. but time keeps marching and more and more will be exposed. cloth masks are useless. natural immunity is superior on and on we go. leave these people alone and allow them to do what best for their families! FREEDOM is the ask but of coarse TERRORIST! NAZI! is the reply. makes alot of sense to the cult i guess.

 

there are more details in your post but i addressed the major ones i think. i know it sucks to be on the side of the one in power. pointing and saying i can do it better when your not doing it is nice and cozy stance free of the actual results of actions. woulda done this and that blah blah blah! now its your chance and we are all paying for the results. embrace it or you can be a unbiased critical thinker and accept that this administration is destroying the country TODAY. more opposition to stop them helps us TOMMORROW. you seem to want to deflect to past admin which does nothing anymore. you should think about that. 

 

-40% and dropping. historic low approval. your the cult whether you want to believe it or not. 

 

you don't have to be republican! i was no fan in the past and don't even consider it myself. you can be independent, libertarian anything to free yourself. just acknowledge what we all see and most of all..give up the schtick.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

i did not get a meme or cupcake reference so that's good. its good you made a opinion on the withdrawal but you are still deflecting.

 

you say who negotiated with terrorist? umm wasnt the iran deal a negotiation with known terrorists? its happen all the time if you include any treaties, ceasefire ect ect with groups. its called compromises to stop bloodshed and all out wars from breaking out. your being hyperbolic so you dont have to confront what i said. hell the taliban was basically recognized and negotiated with the min they took power in the capital in a week..ohhh my god its never happened!! what did we get in return!! idiiiots!!

 

what did we get in return for the millions of dollars in war machines we casually left with the keys in the ignition? has that ever happened before? 

 

this was about the incompetence of the operation and how that's perceived by our enemies and how quickly they seem to want to test that incompetence again.

 

truckers aren't terrorist because they are asking for what the government took. nothing more nothing less. your side has been squealing about follow the science for over 2 years!! murders!! same insane dramatics you always use and now that actual studies are finally being done and finding out what you been told THE ENTIRE TIME its hard to admit you were wrong. that comes with a ton of economic and psychological devastation at your feet so i understand. but time keeps marching and more and more will be exposed. cloth masks are useless. natural immunity is superior on and on we go. leave these people alone and allow them to do what best for their families! FREEDOM is the ask but of coarse TERRORIST! NAZI! is the reply. makes alot of sense to the cult i guess.

 

there are more details in your post but i addressed the major ones i think. i know it sucks to be on the side of the one in power. pointing and saying i can do it better when your not doing it is nice and cozy stance free of the actual results of actions. woulda done this and that blah blah blah! now its your chance and we are all paying for the results. embrace it or you can be a unbiased critical thinker and accept that this administration is destroying the country TODAY. more opposition to stop them helps us TOMMORROW. you seem to want to deflect to past admin which does nothing anymore. you should think about that. 

 

-40% and dropping. historic low approval. your the cult whether you want to believe it or not. 

 

you don't have to be republican! i was no fan in the past and don't even consider it myself. you can be independent, libertarian anything to free yourself. just acknowledge what we all see and most of all..give up the schtick.

 

 


Deflect - like you just did? 

 

-Iran?

-Truckers?

-Approval ratings? Really? Trump averaged what? LOL

-Actual results and actions? Funny you didn’t mention anything about Trumps economy - lmao


My “deflection” hits right at your argument. Since you brought up how our enemies perceive us - the bottom line is: our standing in the world is a helluva lot stronger than it was with the incompetence of Trump mafia:

 

-negotiating with terrorists

-receiving trademarks from China

-standing with MBS on Khashoggi  killing

-siding with Putin non stop (Helsinki)

-legitimizing third world dictators (f’n love letters???)

 

C’mon man.

 

PS: You’re going to talk about approval ratings when Conald averaged what? The guy who lost the popular vote twice? And then went on to lose the House AND Senate. 

 

Be best

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2 hours ago, BillStime said:


Deflect - like you just did? 

 

-Iran?

-Truckers?

-Approval ratings? Really? Trump averaged what? LOL

-Actual results and actions? Funny you didn’t mention anything about Trumps economy - lmao


My “deflection” hits right at your argument. Since you brought up how our enemies perceive us - the bottom line is: our standing in the world is a helluva lot stronger than it was with the incompetence of Trump mafia:

 

-negotiating with terrorists

-receiving trademarks from China

-standing with MBS on Khashoggi  killing

-siding with Putin non stop (Helsinki)

-legitimizing third world dictators (f’n love letters???)

 

C’mon man.

 

PS: You’re going to talk about approval ratings when Conald averaged what? The guy who lost the popular vote twice? And then went on to lose the House AND Senate. 

 

Be best

Hahaha here he is kicking and screaming again. Yes, be best, that would be to avoid the leftist political persuasion all together. That would be a solid start. You won’t, in the meantime, no one takes you seriously you silly person you. 

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2 hours ago, BillStime said:


Deflect - like you just did? 

 

-Iran?

-Truckers?

-Approval ratings? Really? Trump averaged what? LOL

-Actual results and actions? Funny you didn’t mention anything about Trumps economy - lmao


My “deflection” hits right at your argument. Since you brought up how our enemies perceive us - the bottom line is: our standing in the world is a helluva lot stronger than it was with the incompetence of Trump mafia:

 

-negotiating with terrorists

-receiving trademarks from China

-standing with MBS on Khashoggi  killing

-siding with Putin non stop (Helsinki)

-legitimizing third world dictators (f’n love letters???)

 

C’mon man.

 

PS: You’re going to talk about approval ratings when Conald averaged what? The guy who lost the popular vote twice? And then went on to lose the House AND Senate. 

 

Be best

 

iran isnt a deflection. it was a response to you asking for a president who neg with terrorist. you had long list of specifics no one could meet when you asked  has this been done. so not sure what that statement meant because i gave examples...they just did not meet your standard so i guess they never happened.

 

truckers is in the damn video you posted with rand paul. so i responded.

 

im not sure you read your own stuff at this point if you think those are deflections.

 

the fact you are making a comparison between trumps economy and biden..one of the two where people are struggling to buy gas because its doubled kind of tells me this conversation will never be honest. the fact you think a 4 year president has done more destruction to ANYTHING then a life long politician whos been involved in presidential decisions for 9 years and in congress since 1972 reveals just how warped your view is. as if trump coverup of Khashoggi is unique to the US longstanding bloodshed for the Saudis. you'll cherry pick it because it pushes your worldview but here's the catch. trump was a piece of s#/t in alot of his decisions. i just dont think he was what the masses were brainwashed he was. he did good things too. that will never be acknowledged by people, like yourself so ill just end it here and let you get back to what you really want.

 

red team vs blue team smackdown session. 

 

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2 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Hahaha here he is kicking and screaming again. Yes, be best, that would be to avoid the leftist political persuasion all together. That would be a solid start. You won’t, in the meantime, no one takes you seriously you silly person you. 


Here we go again - DR sandwich engaging while telling me no takes me seriously. 
 

make up your f n mind

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1 minute ago, BillStime said:


Here we go again - DR sandwich engaging while telling me no takes me seriously. 
 

make up your f n mind

Engaging in your funny antics, silly as they are. I like to keep the train wrecks going, grab my popcorn and watch you crash and burn. It’s fun! 

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