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8 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Hooray, they are just above rock bottom!!! 

 

The first step to respectability is getting out of rock bottom. The Sabres can't just buy their way out with free agents. They have to develop their picks. It takes time. Bringing up the last ten years doesn't make things go faster now.

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10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Absolutely WRONG! Buffalo is a hockey town and belongs in the NHL. Any  franchise we let leave is gone forever. 

 

I have watched every single second of Sabres hockey this year, and pretty much every year. If all you do is check the scores and standings it's easy to think they are a basket case.

 

But actually they are where the Bills were in 2018. They blew up the old core and are cultivating a new one. They are a very young team and players that need to develop. 

 

But I can tell you this team is already much better than the s##t show they were last year under Krueger. In many games they are playing well only to screw up in their end and give up a goal. 

 

 

Maybe they are inching towards having a fringe playoff roster in a couple years.........but it's a bit difficult to envision a cup contender coming out of this in 2024 (as the Bills became a SB contender in 2020).

 

Are the Lightning, Panthers and Leafs suddenly getting much worse while the Sabres somehow vault to the top without star power?    Are the Sabres even ahead of the Senators in their re-builds?

 

And that's just their own division.

 

To me,  your optimism is like that of a NY Jets fan who thinks that their current trajectory places them atop the AFC East in 2024.

 

No context.

 

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2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

The first step to respectability is getting out of rock bottom. The Sabres can't just buy their way out with free agents. They have to develop their picks. It takes time. Bringing up the last ten years doesn't make things go faster now.

 

10 years ago is a better starting point to describe the current Sabres to the Bills.

 

The current Sabres are about where the 2013 Bills were...........the Buddy Nix era..........it will take some more losing and coaching and GM changes.........another iteration of a tear down in 3-4 years.........and nobody on the current roster will probably be with the team when they get into cup contention again in 2030.

 

If everything goes right this time, that is. 😉

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Tax write off for Pegula with Sabres 

1 hour ago, eball said:

If the Sabres had legitimate goaltending they’d probably be a fringe playoff team right now.  They have a ways to go, but goaltending has absolutely held them back — it’s horrid.

If not the defense it’s the wingers. 

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5 hours ago, Helpmenow said:

Tax write off for Pegula with Sabres 

If not the defense it’s the wingers. 

Goaltending was actually pretty solid to start the season, then we had some injury problems and it was much more up and down.

 

We are nowhere close to a fringe playoff team however, even if we had Dom in his prime.

 

Among many other problems, we are dead last (league wide) in face-off wins.  

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

"Dave est magané!"

 

 

Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress.

I know fans like to blame Kim Pegula because she’s the team president but I’ve never seen any evidence that Kim is involved in making any hockey decisions.

 

Terry, on the other hand, seems very involved in the hockey ops.

He’s the one that sits in every scouting + free agent meeting and gives his opinion.

 

I think Terry is a bigger issue than Kim. But Both just need to stay out of the decision making for the Sabres IMO.

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Boy, it’s a good thing Botterill just willingly gave up this kid’s draft rights instead of signing him to an entry level deal, huh? All t would’ve cost was a contract spot.

Not like we need good players we drafted or anything. 😡🤬

 

Botterill was pretty terrible. But part of the issue is also all the turnover in the front office and scouting staff. 

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1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

Heard this at the home opener tailgate from a member of the Associated Press that covers the Bills and Sabres.

 

Just say John Wawrow.

10 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

"Dave est magané!"

 

 

Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress.

The Sabres are run by Kevin Adams and Jason Karmanos.

19 hours ago, Doc said:

The Sabres need a goalie like the Bills needed a QB.

 

They actually need to learn how to play in their end. How to defend and how to leave the zone without turning the puck over.

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I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale?

 

I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be.

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31 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale?

 

I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be.

It was reported that Tom Golisano put a no-move provision in the sale of the Sabres.

 

https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=6087856

 

not sure if that applies to future owners too, but if not I don’t see why the Pegulas couldn’t make it a provision of the sale like Golisano did.

 

I also don’t know if Gary Bettman would let the Sabres leave Buffalo anyway.

Say what you want about him but he shows true loyalty to NHL markets. He’s already fought for the Sabres to stay in Buffalo. If not for him they would’ve been relocated after the bankruptcy (I was pissed when Buffalo fans booed him at the 2015 draft in Buffalo). He won’t even allow the Coyotes to leave Arizona despite their attendance issues and not having an NHL arena to play in starting next season. They’ll be playing in a 2000 seat state college arena.

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9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

I know fans like to blame Kim Pegula because she’s the team president but I’ve never seen any evidence that Kim is involved in making any hockey decisions.

 

Terry, on the other hand, seems very involved in the hockey ops.

He’s the one that sits in every scouting + free agent meeting and gives his opinion.

 

I think Terry is a bigger issue than Kim. But Both just need to stay out of the decision making for the Sabres IMO.

But Terry has experience as a (non skating) hockey coach.

 

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49 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

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Classic article. Boy I had hopes

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale?

 

I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be.

The best thing Pegula could do is being just the bills owner

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