Royale with Cheese Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: We could see if Rick Dennison is available if you like I got your Rick right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: But again the Giants are in complete rebuild mode. Barkley might not be on that roster next year which means you’ll have no running game, no O Line and no WRS. If I’m Watson I’m staying far and away from the Giants organization. Plus the Manning’s have a lot of power on that franchise hence why Jones was drafted. I think Jones is going to be on that team for a while. Also the Giants don’t have the draft capital to compete against either Miami or Philly. And no Miami is not a total compete mess like the giants are The Giants have 2-1st rounders in 2022, both likely in the top-half, while Miami has 1 (SF's, which should be a later one). And why would Barkley be gone in 2022? He's still under his rookie contract so there's no need to move him and no one's trading much of anything for, while if keeping him helps them get Watson, they'll do that. As what do the Manning's have to do with Daniel Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Doc said: The Giants have 2-1st rounders in 2022, both likely in the top-half, while Miami has 1 (SF's, which should be a later one). And why would Barkley be gone in 2022? He's still under his rookie contract so there's no need to move him and no one's trading much of anything for, while if keeping him helps them get Watson, they'll do that. As what do the Manning's have to do with Daniel Jones? He’s on his last year of his rookie deal. And Daniel Jones pre draft was very close to the Manning family, you don’t believe me then look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Flores was last with the Pats in 2018? What did they run then? Hybrid. The conversion back had started though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: He’s on his last year of his rookie deal. And Daniel Jones pre draft was very close to the Manning family, you don’t believe me then look it up The Giants picked-up Barkley's 5th year option, meaning he's under contract in 2022, for just $7M. As for Jones and the Mannings, this is what I found: Quote There’s something of a misconception that Jones and the Manning family are extremely close. That’s not necessarily the case: The friendship between Jones and the Manning boys seems to be strictly on-field, though there’s clearly a mutual respect between the two parties. Seems like a working relationship and Jones got Eli retired, of sorts. I don't see it as an impediment to replacing him if Watson is viewed as a better QB, which he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 And as for Miami, after seeing they only have 1-1st rounder next year, and likely a later one at that, and they're in the AFC, that makes them the least likely trade partner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Doc said: And as for Miami, after seeing they only have 1-1st rounder next year, and likely a later one at that, and they're in the AFC, that makes them the least likely trade partner. I agree with you but if the offers are weak because of Watson’s baggage they may have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: I agree with you but if the offers are weak because of Watson’s baggage they may have a chance. I'd say just 1-1st rounder in 2022 and 2023 is a pretty weak offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 There’s a tweet that just came out that said Miami might pull the trigger and give up 3 1st round picks and they’ll be sending Tua to Washington for a second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) His career is over. How is he ever supposed to be the face of an NFL franchise again? This wasn't 1 incident with 1 woman (which isn't to downplay this it just would make an argument in his defense - one bad decision idk 'easier' to defend?) Considering all the "canceling" society is doing for far less, the fact this is being reported the way it is and how he's being covered is rather sickening. There are 100s of wealthy professional athletes across all 4 major sports......NONE of them have anything close to the allegations Watson has against him. I guess he's just a poor unfortunate victim of the wrong women at the wrong time. Could happen to any of them I tell ya. Ban. Ban him for life. Edited September 30, 2021 by Big Blitz 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: His career is over. How is he ever supposed to be the face of an NFL franchise again? This wasn't 1 incident with 1 woman (which isn't to downplay this it just would make an argument in his defense - one bad decision idk 'easier' to defend?) Considering all the "canceling" society is doing for far less, the fact this is being reported the way it is and how he's being covered is rather sickening. There are 100s of wealthy professional athletes across all 4 major sports......NONE of them have anything close to the allegations Watson has against him. I guess he's just a poor unfortunate victim of the wrong women at the wrong time. Could happen to any of them I tell ya. Ban. Ban him for life. If he is criminally charged and found guilty he will never play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: There’s a tweet that just came out that said Miami might pull the trigger and give up 3 1st round picks and they’ll be sending Tua to Washington for a second rounder. I'm not sure I'd do that deal if I was Washington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Seems we are mostly in agreement here. There is zero chance we'd want that guy on our team. I cannot root for someone who did what he did. I do not want to win that badly, but if the Phins want to roast marshmallows on a dumpster fire, go ahead! ps: Get oj's name off the wall. Please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I am pretty sure that Watson is not a good person. I think he would fit perfectly in the Andy Reid - KC abusive home. Maybe KC can trade Mahomes - who is just punchable for a really bad person at QB. Come on Andy - we know you want another Sexual Predator to go with your other criminal cases. Go ahead make the call today. 🤦♂️ 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I'm not sure I'd do that deal if I was Washington I saw more upside from Heinicke last Sunday than I have from Tua for a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Ban. Ban him for life. I hate the accusations as much as anyone, but can we let this play out first? That very well may he his fate, but we (or at least I ) don’t yet know enough to be making such a call, IMO. Again, that may be well deserved, maybe prison is even warranted. BUT, let’s see how it goes first. I wonder what the strategies are here. Are the accusers and their attorney slow playing this because it helps their leverage getting a settlement? Are they waiting for the trade deadline to apply pressure? Are some of these accusers just jumping on for the expected payoff? On the flip side, are there dozens of more victims who just don’t want to be a part of the process because it’s so ugly? I’m sure many people have followed this more closely than I have. I’m sure there is a lot of info I’m not aware of. My point is a general one: I like people to get their day in court and to have the facts come out before judging them. Maybe that’s just me? 🤷♀️ Edited September 30, 2021 by Augie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: There’s a tweet that just came out that said Miami might pull the trigger and give up 3 1st round picks and they’ll be sending Tua to Washington for a second rounder. Interesting. They will still lose to Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: There’s a tweet that just came out that said Miami might pull the trigger and give up 3 1st round picks and they’ll be sending Tua to Washington for a second rounder. Can you be more specific? A tweet from some random person? Grier's twitter account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I'm not sure I'd do that deal if I was Washington That part of the tweet made me realize that anyone can tweet anything (well, almost) anytime they want. Edited October 1, 2021 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, mannc said: Can you be more specific? A tweet from some random person? Grier's twitter account? I have the tweet unfortunately it won’t let me post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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