buffaloaggie Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Teven Jenkins out already Beane made re-signing his OTs a priority for good reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Nagy and Pace need Fields to save their job this year. It's make-or-break for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Teven Jenkins went in round 2 because he is a projection at left tackle. He can play right tackle but you don't draft right tackles in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hadn't seen that, thanks. I was one of the ones pounding the table for Teven Jenkins (and JOK/Elijah Moore) if he was still there when we picked, but we just don't know as much as the teams in terms of any medicals. Reminds me of the Shaq Lawson situation where most of us were excited he fell to us (at #19 I believe) after he was expected to go Top 10 only to realize he was carrying an injury. So much for that Day 1 starter line from Rex... Still think Jenkins is going to be a solid player in the league especially as a run blocker, but looks like we got a promising player in Rousseau with a very high ceiling! Let's go Groot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Why do people pound tables for anyone ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Hadn't seen that, thanks. I was one of the ones pounding the table for Teven Jenkins (and JOK/Elijah Moore) if he was still there when we picked, but we just don't know as much as the teams in terms of any medicals. Reminds me of the Shaq Lawson situation where most of us were excited he fell to us (at #19 I believe) after he was expected to go Top 10 only to realize he was carrying an injury. So much for that Day 1 starter line from Rex... Still think Jenkins is going to be a solid player in the league especially as a run blocker, but looks like we got a promising player in Rousseau with a very high ceiling! Let's go Groot! The Lawson situation is exactly why Buffalo struggled for years. No real connection to the people at Clemson. Rex saying his son plays their he knows everything blah blah. I dont see that situation happening with McBeane. They would have found out about the shoulder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Why do people pound tables for anyone ? Bills fans don't just pound tables........ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Not much worse than seeing people bash teams for not drafting certain players on message boards when they don’t know the first thing about scouting or drafting college players. Edited August 11, 2021 by CaptnCoke11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Somebody forgot to do the homework Cleveland is also famous for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Teven Jenkins went in round 2 because he is a projection at left tackle. He can play right tackle but you don't draft right tackles in round 1. And in round 2, an OG or RG better be special. The notion that you can let up and draft for need or lesser valued positions just because it's the second round and not the first is misplaced. Preferably you come out of the top 3 rounds with 3 players at the premium positions(QB/PassRush/LT/CB/WR1). Beane has gotten singed when he has gone to "safer" lesser positions in rounds 2 and 3. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: And in round 2, an OG or RG better be special. The notion that you can let up and draft for need or lesser valued positions just because it's the second round and not the first is misplaced. Preferably you come out of the top 3 rounds with 3 players at the premium positions(QB/PassRush/LT/CB/WR1). Beane has gotten singed when he has gone to "safer" lesser positions in rounds 2 and 3. Meh. I think Right Tackle is a position I'd draft in round 2 now. I just think teams have good enough edge rushers now that I see value in having bookends. But that guy better end up a two contract starter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Meh. I think Right Tackle is a position I'd draft in round 2 now. I just think teams have good enough edge rushers now that I see value in having bookends. But that guy better end up a two contract starter. You would take a RT in round 2? Be hard for me to do that. But if I did I would go LT for sure before RT. Edited August 11, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, Sheneneh Jenkins said: You would take a RT in round 2? Be hard for me to do that. But if I did I would go LT for sure. Yes, in the right circumstances. I am absolutely against RT only guys in round 1. But in round 2 I am less absolute about it. I'd still prioritise my first tier positions - QB, Pass Rusher, LT, #1CB, #1WR - but I'd consider 2nd tier positions - RT, C, MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yes, in the right circumstances. I am absolutely against RT only guys in round 1. But in round 2 I am less absolute about it. I'd still prioritise my first tier positions - QB, Pass Rusher, LT, #1CB, #1WR - but I'd consider 2nd tier positions - RT, C, MLB. Yeah I know it would depend on circumstances, but was curious why a RT over a LT. If the 2 players at each position were very close, you'd still go RT over LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Why do people pound tables for anyone ? My least favorite draft season cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Yeah I know it would depend on circumstances, but was curious why a RT over a LT. If the 2 players at each position were very close, you'd still go RT over LT? No, no, no. Given the choice between a guy who can play on the left and a guy who is RT only always take the guy who can play on the left if you have them in your same tier of talent. I was just making the point to @BADOLBILZ that while I generally agree with his view on the way you use 1st round resources I am a little more flexible in round 2. I'd still lean towards first tier positions but I'd consider 2nd tier positions - including RT - as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yes, in the right circumstances. I am absolutely against RT only guys in round 1. But in round 2 I am less absolute about it. I'd still prioritise my first tier positions - QB, Pass Rusher, LT, #1CB, #1WR - but I'd consider 2nd tier positions - RT, C, MLB. I think it depends on the player .. would you take a Guard early in the draft.. Quinton Nelson has panned out ok .. In the first round you hope to find a stud .. all else being equal sure a LT > RT or Guard, but not everything is equal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, CorkScrewHill said: I think it depends on the player .. would you take a Guard early in the draft.. Quinton Nelson has panned out ok .. In the first round you hope to find a stud .. all else being equal sure a LT > RT or Guard, but not everything is equal. I'd take Nelson, yes. I was fine with taking Tremaine Edmunds too. But generally you have to stick to premium positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Why do people pound tables for anyone ? Because it is more effective than breaking tables and leads to less injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 44 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Yeah I know it would depend on circumstances, but was curious why a RT over a LT. If the 2 players at each position were very close, you'd still go RT over LT? People get too caught up in this nonsense in my opinion. You need a RT and everyone on your team is in love with one guy that slipped out of the first round. You really don’t need anything else and you’re going to pass on the RT and take someone you’re luke warm on? Seems silly to me. Nah, you take your guy and hopefully get 10 years out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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