rayray808 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 so it wasn't for Julio... what's the next player/trade to take over my twitter feed?
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 Waiting stinks, seems like Eagles are playing hardball
Saxum Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 10:04 PM, rayray808 said: so it wasn't for Julio... what's the next player/trade to take over my twitter feed? Expand Well Bears fans would be real unhappy if Packers traded for Mitchell Trubisky to handle QB duties until Love was ready. Start that rumor. 1
BarleyNY Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 10:39 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said: Waiting stinks, seems like Eagles are playing hardball Expand Their leverage is that they can wait until cut down day to release Ertz for cap purposes. The only problem with that is that don’t want him in the building where they’d be on the hook for his salary if he got injured. So the likely endpoint for this is just prior to the start of training camps on July 27th. 1
Einstein's Dog Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 10:39 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said: Waiting stinks, seems like Eagles are playing hardball Expand Or the delay could be with Ertz/his agent and the Bills. They may have negotiated a 4th or 5th for Ertz already dependent upon Ertz signing a contract with the Bills. Determining a fair contract is a nightmare. And if the Bills are trying to get more than one year, the terms are even more complicated. Fair Market Value for Ertz is tough to figure, such a huge possible range.
Boxcar Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 2:47 PM, Einstein's Dog said: Or the delay could be with Ertz/his agent and the Bills. They may have negotiated a 4th or 5th for Ertz already dependent upon Ertz signing a contract with the Bills. Determining a fair contract is a nightmare. And if the Bills are trying to get more than one year, the terms are even more complicated. Fair Market Value for Ertz is tough to figure, such a huge possible range. Expand What if this isn't even Ertz? This waiting is driving me crazy
4merper4mer Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 2:47 PM, Einstein's Dog said: Or the delay could be with Ertz/his agent and the Bills. They may have negotiated a 4th or 5th for Ertz already dependent upon Ertz signing a contract with the Bills. Determining a fair contract is a nightmare. And if the Bills are trying to get more than one year, the terms are even more complicated. Fair Market Value for Ertz is tough to figure, such a huge possible range. Expand Another possibility is that the Bills have zero interest in Ertz because he blows. 2 1
FireChans Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 1:10 AM, 4merper4mer said: Another possibility is that the Bills have zero interest in Ertz because he blows. Expand Kim Jung TE
Einstein's Dog Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 1:10 AM, 4merper4mer said: Another possibility is that the Bills have zero interest in Ertz because he blows. Expand Zero interest is pretty much out. But like JJ before him, the Bills FO probably has a set price range and draft capital and won't move much from it. And don't be fooled whatever amount the Bills are thinking, it is the most the Bills have ever paid for a TE. 1
4merper4mer Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:12 AM, Einstein's Dog said: Zero interest is pretty much out. But like JJ before him, the Bills FO probably has a set price range and draft capital and won't move much from it. And don't be fooled whatever amount the Bills are thinking, it is the most the Bills have ever paid for a TE. Expand Why is zero interest out? Because a bunch of reporters and fans are speculating? One thing I’ve noticed about Beane is that he doesn’t typically target whiny crybabies who have not only been unproductive lately but have also been injury prone and detrimental to team chemistry. But hey, there are exceptions to every rule so maybe. 2
Einstein's Dog Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:47 AM, 4merper4mer said: Why is zero interest out? Because a bunch of reporters and fans are speculating? One thing I’ve noticed about Beane is that he doesn’t typically target whiny crybabies who have not only been unproductive lately but have also been injury prone and detrimental to team chemistry. But hey, there are exceptions to every rule so maybe. Expand Pretty far fetched to think the Bills haven't been checking Ertz out. Not only multiple reports/leaks but Beane said we didn't have the elite type TE that required game planning. Vegas odds put the Bills as the most likely landing spot. Beane does his own due diligence and determines if there is a fit, this wouldn't be an exception - see S Diggs.
4merper4mer Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 1:21 PM, Einstein's Dog said: Pretty far fetched to think the Bills haven't been checking Ertz out. Not only multiple reports/leaks but Beane said we didn't have the elite type TE that required game planning. Vegas odds put the Bills as the most likely landing spot. Beane does his own due diligence and determines if there is a fit, this wouldn't be an exception - see S Diggs. Expand Vegas odds. Lol. It is understandable Beane would want an elite tight end. If he wanted an elite car do you think he’d be hanging out at the Kia dealership? Do you think he’d buy a used Kia that had a flat tire and bad brakes? At least cars can’t have crap attitudes like Ertz. At this point in his career he requires the same amount of game planning as the kid who runs onto to the field to pick up the tee after a kickoff. Shirley you can’t be serious comparing Ertz to Diggs. That’s a joke right? 1 1
Rockinon Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 1:36 PM, 4merper4mer said: Vegas odds. Lol. It is understandable Beane would want an elite tight end. If he wanted an elite car do you think he’d be hanging out at the Kia dealership? Do you think he’d buy a used Kia that had a flat tire and bad brakes? At least cars can’t have crap attitudes like Ertz. At this point in his career he requires the same amount of game planning as the kid who runs onto to the field to pick up the tee after a kickoff. Shirley you can’t be serious comparing Ertz to Diggs. That’s a joke right? Expand Cars can have crap attitudes. I can attest to that. BTW, ever read the book Christine or watched the movie?
Einstein's Dog Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 1:36 PM, 4merper4mer said: Vegas odds. Lol. It is understandable Beane would want an elite tight end. If he wanted an elite car do you think he’d be hanging out at the Kia dealership? Do you think he’d buy a used Kia that had a flat tire and bad brakes? At least cars can’t have crap attitudes like Ertz. At this point in his career he requires the same amount of game planning as the kid who runs onto to the field to pick up the tee after a kickoff. Shirley you can’t be serious comparing Ertz to Diggs. That’s a joke right? Expand For someone who disregards all evidence of the Bills interest in Ertz, it's ironic that you're so quick to buy into the theory that Ertz has a bad attitude. What sources do you have for that? Much like with JJ, this is not interest related, but price related. Sounds like you wouldn't be on board for Beane to go north of $13M for Ertz. Normally I'd ask what you would be willing to pay, but you don't seem rational on the subject. And don't kid yourself, getting an upper tier TE, Ertz, is the biggest upgrade the Bills could do for the Offense (over RB, over JJones, biggest).
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:12 AM, Einstein's Dog said: Zero interest is pretty much out. But like JJ before him, the Bills FO probably has a set price range and draft capital and won't move much from it. And don't be fooled whatever amount the Bills are thinking, it is the most the Bills have ever paid for a TE. Expand What did the Bills pay for Clay?
716er Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) On 6/9/2021 at 2:21 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: What did the Bills pay for Clay? Expand Average salary was around 7.5 mil from what I remember FWIW I think the best move is to save the space and wait until training camp to use it. We will have an injury eventually. Edited June 9, 2021 by 716er
H2o Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Still waiting to see what this cap space was cleared out for. But the longer it sits unused, the more it seems like it is for someone who is currently on another roster at the moment. 1 2
Einstein's Dog Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:21 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: What did the Bills pay for Clay? Expand Looks like Clay got 5yrs for $38.5M. So I stand by my comment, got to pay Ertz over $8 - K Pitts is getting $8.5M and J Smith got over $12M.
H2o Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:29 PM, Einstein's Dog said: Looks like Clay got 5yrs for $38.5M. So I stand by my comment, got to pay Ertz over $8 - K Pitts is getting $8.5M and J Smith got over $12M. Expand The Pats overpaid for two TE's. I hope Beane doesn't even take their stupidity into account if/when we make a move for Ertz and sticks to his guns about what he's willing to pay. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:25 PM, 716er said: Average salary was around 7.5 mil from what I remember Expand $10M signing, $10M roster bonus the following year, total $24.5M guaranteed. Only $5M cap hit the first year, but $13.5M the second year.$38M overall So I guess it depends upon how you look at the question “most the Bills have ever paid for a TE”
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