Tiberius Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-jerusalem-076a9ec7e2bd9c065882c64a4ab820a1 JERUSALEM (AP) — Explosions have been heard in Jerusalem after air raid sirens sounded. The sirens came Monday, shortly after the Hamas militant group in Gaza had set a deadline for Israel to remove its security forces from the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound. Abu Obeida, spokesman for Hamas’ military wing, said the rocket attack was a response to what he called Israeli “crimes and aggression” in Jerusalem. “This is a message the enemy has to understand well,” he said. He threatened more attacks if Israel again invades the Al-Aqsa compound or carries out evictions of Palestinian families in a neighborhood of east Jerusalem. The sounds of outgoing rocket fire were heard in Gaza shortly before the sirens went off. Later, a new barrage of rockets was heard. There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Hamas gets the response that they want, they will now play victims. Israel Retaliates for Hamas Rocket Attack https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021/05/10/israel-retaliates-for-hamas-rocket-attack-n377618 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Hamas gets the response that they want, they will now play victims. Israel Retaliates for Hamas Rocket Attack https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021/05/10/israel-retaliates-for-hamas-rocket-attack-n377618 Wonder if this makes it easier for Israel to evict those Palestinians families from their homes to appease the religious fanatics that want the land? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Have to feel for the underdog. Israel of all countries claiming that old territory should be “given back” to the supposed rightful owners. Ya right. I mean if you apply the law to the whole country, then the occupation would have to end and Israel would be done. This is just a land grab by religious extremists https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/09/middleeast/jerusalem-sheikh-jarrah-unrest/index.html (CNN)Israel's Supreme Court on Sunday postponed a hearing on the possible eviction of several Palestinian families from their homes in Jerusalem and will set a new date within 30 days. The Supreme Court said the hearing, which was supposed to take place Monday, was canceled at the request of the State Attorney General. Last week, the court said it would hear an appeal by the Palestinian families against their eviction from the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood in East Jerusalem, in the latest development in a decades-long legal case. At least 100 Palestinians injured in 2nd night of clashes with Israeli police in Jerusalem A pro-settler organization called Nahalat Shimon is using a 1970 law to argue that the owners of the land before 1948 were Jewish families, and so the current Palestinian landowners should be evicted and their properties given to Israeli Jews. Palestinians say restitution laws in Israel are unfair because they have no legal means to reclaim property they lost to Jewish families in the late 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Kerry told Hamas where to aim. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orlando Tim Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Have to feel for the underdog. Israel of all countries claiming that old territory should be “given back” to the supposed rightful owners. Ya right. I mean if you apply the law to the whole country, then the occupation would have to end and Israel would be done. This is just a land grab by religious extremists https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/09/middleeast/jerusalem-sheikh-jarrah-unrest/index.html (CNN)Israel's Supreme Court on Sunday postponed a hearing on the possible eviction of several Palestinian families from their homes in Jerusalem and will set a new date within 30 days. The Supreme Court said the hearing, which was supposed to take place Monday, was canceled at the request of the State Attorney General. Last week, the court said it would hear an appeal by the Palestinian families against their eviction from the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood in East Jerusalem, in the latest development in a decades-long legal case. At least 100 Palestinians injured in 2nd night of clashes with Israeli police in Jerusalem A pro-settler organization called Nahalat Shimon is using a 1970 law to argue that the owners of the land before 1948 were Jewish families, and so the current Palestinian landowners should be evicted and their properties given to Israeli Jews. Palestinians say restitution laws in Israel are unfair because they have no legal means to reclaim property they lost to Jewish families in the late 1 I am curious how you come to the conclusion that Israel is not by every right the property of the Jews. They inhabited it 3000 years ago at the beginning of the records of the area, they were violently overtaken, and then took it back. They have the majority of the people in Israel, they give the Palestinian Arabs more rights than any other country in the area, and they have the military might in the area. The main argument against them is that Britain and the US put Israel in control but that does not negate all of the other facts that are more important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am curious how you come to the conclusion that Israel is not by every right the property of the Jews. Hollywood and the coastal elites told him to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 20 dead including 9 children Awful situation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 It's been an awful situation for several days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 "We don't have the defensive measures Israel has. " Well, Why does Israel have those defensive measures? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 All these attacks on both sides, all because they want to take more land from the poor Palestinians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am curious how you come to the conclusion that Israel is not by every right the property of the Jews. They inhabited it 3000 years ago at the beginning of the records of the area, they were violently overtaken, and then took it back. They have the majority of the people in Israel, they give the Palestinian Arabs more rights than any other country in the area, and they have the military might in the area. The main argument against them is that Britain and the US put Israel in control but that does not negate all of the other facts that are more important. They are just stealing land. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They are just stealing land. Period. Isn’t the land you’re referring to actually part of Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Isn’t the land you’re referring to actually part of Israel? So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: So? Would you say the same if it was New Jersey? (Well maybe New Jersey...but you get the point.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Would you say the same if it was New Jersey? (Well maybe New Jersey...but you get the point.) New Jersey can just pick on an ethnic group and take away their homes and property because some religious fanatics want it? What in the hell are you talking about Jim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: New Jersey can just pick on an ethnic group and take away their homes and property because some religious fanatics want it? What in the hell are you talking about Jim? Jim? No? Back on topic; Israel is a free country. There are people of many religions living there, including Palestinians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Jim? No? Back on topic; Israel is a free country. There are people of many religions living there, including Palestinians. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So? So if New Jersey wanted to secede from the US because they wanted a land of their own, you wouldn’t think the US should have the right to try and stop them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So if New Jersey wanted to secede from the US because they wanted a land of their own, you wouldn’t think the US should have the right to try and stop them? Just shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Just shut up I see..you started this thread but don’t want anyone to comment on it. Might I suggest you start a diary and keep it under your bed? Edited May 11, 2021 by SoCal Deek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, SoCal Deek said: I see..you started this thread but don’t want anyone to comment on it. Might I suggest you start a diary and keep it under your bed? You just say dumb things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: You just say dumb things It’s dumb to suggest a country would want to keep their borders intact? I thought that’s what countries are for. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: They are just stealing land. Period. What? And your evidence is? Who are they stealing from? Seriously I could be persuaded here but that response is just funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: What? And your evidence is? Who are they stealing from? Seriously I could be persuaded here but that response is just funny. Read up on it and get back to me. You posters that do not even try and understand what the topic is about are really annoying. But, I guess that's your purpose 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Read up on it and get back to me. You posters that do not even try and understand what the topic is about are really annoying. But, I guess that's your purpose I did give a well founded comment and you ignored facts with a childish retort. You did not dispute one idea or concept but then blame me for you not understanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I did give a well founded comment and you ignored facts with a childish retort. You did not dispute one idea or concept but then blame me for you not understanding. You asked basic information questions about the topic under discussion. Like I’m suppose to spoon feed you the cliff notes. No thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 This will never be solved. When one group of people do not believe the second group should even exist, no amount of diplomacy will ever have any effect. That’s why I am always surprised that some think the US can somehow make peace there. Arabs and Jews have hated each other for centuries - what power do we have to change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You asked basic information questions about the topic under discussion. Like I’m suppose to spoon feed you the cliff notes. No thanks The cliff notes? You can't give me one fact that disputes that Israel has every right to the territory but I am suppose to care about some minor detail that makes Israel the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 i remember when the democrats tried to claim trump was an anti semite early in his presidency. my have the tables turned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Does anyone know the real reason the two political parties have picked the sides they have here. Israeli Palestinian conflict has been perpetual.... again this isn’t a good guy bad guy thing. They hate each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Does anyone know the real reason the two political parties have picked the sides they have here. Most Republicans and Democrats in power, including the President and the state department, support Israel. What do you mean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, 716er said: Most Republicans and Democrats in power, including the President and the state department, support Israel. What do you mean? A number of prominent democrats are blasting Israel... AOC, Warren, Sanders, Ohmar... I just don’t understand the real reason they are picking the sides they are... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/democrats-are-lying-about-sheikh-jarrah-but-facts-matter-even-in-israel-opinion/ar-BB1gBZa2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: A number of prominent democrats are blasting Israel... AOC, Warren, Sanders, Ohmar... I just don’t understand the real reason they are picking the sides they are... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/democrats-are-lying-about-sheikh-jarrah-but-facts-matter-even-in-israel-opinion/ar-BB1gBZa2 Who knows? Personally I can't justify choosing either side in an unjust war. What is happening there is just heart breaking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Does anyone know the real reason the two political parties have picked the sides they have here. Israeli Palestinian conflict has been perpetual.... again this isn’t a good guy bad guy thing. They hate each other. That's easy! Israel is running an Apartheid system and the Republicans think that's really, really awesome. The Democrats see it as wrong. Of course there is a lot of nuance there. And the parties do not align perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: That's easy! Israel is running an Apartheid system and the Republicans think that's really, really awesome. The Democrats see it as wrong. Of course there is a lot of nuance there. And the parties do not align perfectly Sorry I meant a non sheep... I don’t mean a the regurgitated party line drivel. You do realize politicians don’t tell you the real reasons they do things don’t you? Oh wait no you think this is one of those cute superhero cartoon with good guys and bad guys... 1 hour ago, 716er said: Who knows? Personally I can't justify choosing either side in an unjust war. What is happening there is just heart breaking. I agree, which is why I’m curious about the selected bedfellows. It’s one of the more difficult conflicts to clearly see the money/power angle Edited May 11, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Sorry I meant a non sheep... I don’t mean a the regurgitated party line drivel. I agree, which is why I’m curious about the selected bedfellows. It’s one of the more difficult conflicts to clearly see the money/power angle No, it’s just true. The Palestinians stuck in refugee camps, that’s a Republican dream for our country, locking up all the non-whites. 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: A number of prominent democrats are blasting Israel... AOC, Warren, Sanders, Ohmar... I just don’t understand the real reason they are picking the sides they are... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/democrats-are-lying-about-sheikh-jarrah-but-facts-matter-even-in-israel-opinion/ar-BB1gBZa2 Israel has a State religion, too. Gee, who’d love that here? Hint, it’s not the Democrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Israel has a State religion So your hinting you think the entire Democratic Party are antisemites? Could be. They did start the kkk after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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