BullBuchanan Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, LanderPoke said: #notmypresident #resist Is this how this works? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Q-baby! said: Because that’s what Trump says. Trump doesn’t lie. They won't even talk to me or acknowledge the hundreds of thousands of undelivered ballots they've discovered held up by USPS. 2 minutes ago, LanderPoke said: #notmypresident #resist Is this how this works? It really is for a frightening number of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: They won't concede. They believe there's widespread voter fraud and it's going to swing the election in Trump's favor after it's revealed and litigated. No, seriously. That's what they think. There is fraud. Sorry to interrupt the lefty circle jerk already in progress here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: There is fraud. Sorry to interrupt the lefty circle jerk already in progress here. How about the hundreds of thousands of ballots held up in USPS? Do you have any issue with that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 6 hours ago, aristocrat said: No it’s not it’s just hypocrisy. Just as I’ve laid out how you managed to vote in a more racist candidate than Trump has ever been. Just pure hypocrisy on the left and it’s beautiful to see. As a black man I TOTALLY disagree with you saying Biden is more of a racist than Trump. I believe Biden was racist in his younger years but plenty of racists have changed an no longer have racists views. Biden is one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, StHustle said: As a black man I TOTALLY disagree with you saying Biden is more of a racist than Trump. I believe Biden was racist in his younger years but plenty of racists have changed an no longer have racists views. Biden is one of them. You are free to make that observation but I think quite a number of people would disagree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, StHustle said: As a black man I TOTALLY disagree with you saying Biden is more of a racist than Trump. I believe Biden was racist in his younger years but plenty of racists have changed an no longer have racists views. Biden is one of them. The issue is his history of passing bills that devastated minority communities that still have lasting effects to this day. I’m enjoying the left trying to justify voting for him despite his truly terrible history. All I keep hearing is..it seemed like a good idea at the time. Four years of being called a kkk member if you showed any support for trump. Now they put a guy in office that is one of the reasons the blm movement exists so that they can fight the policies established by Biden! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, StHustle said: As a black man I TOTALLY disagree with you saying Biden is more of a racist than Trump. I believe Biden was racist in his younger years but plenty of racists have changed an no longer have racists views. Biden is one of them. lmao, someone got played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: The issue is his history of passing bills that devastated minority communities that still have lasting effects to this day. I’m enjoying the left trying to justify voting for him despite his truly terrible history. All I keep hearing is..it seemed like a good idea at the time. Four years of being called a kkk member if you showed any support for trump. Now they put a guy in office that is one of the reasons the blm movement exists so that they can fight the policies established by Biden! He admitted he was wrong for those bills and his mindset has changed. As a Trump supporter I wouldn't expect that to mean anything to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, StHustle said: He admitted he was wrong for those bills and his mindset has changed. As a Trump supporter I wouldn't expect that to mean anything to you. It had negative unforeseen consequences. He owned up to his mistake and now has a position to change it. Trump couldn’t even say he condemns white nationalists on national TV. I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, StHustle said: He admitted he was wrong for those bills and his mindset has changed. As a Trump supporter I wouldn't expect that to mean anything to you. that doesn’t mean he gets a pass. The people whose lives were destroyed certainly didn’t. Funny how it’s so easy to look past how terrible your candidates history is when it suits you. If he was a republican you would be saying the same things I am. As far as policy goes. Trumps record with minorities is far far better than Biden’s and that is a fact not an opinion. Do I wish Biden success? Absolutely. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think he he’s a giant piece of ***** who has ruined countless lives in this country with his irresponsible policy and for him to continue to be in government despite all of that is what’s wrong with our government. 2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: It had negative unforeseen consequences. He owned up to his mistake and now has a position to change it. Trump couldn’t even say he condemns white nationalists on national TV. I agree with you. but then Trump later condemned white nationalism so therefore all is forgiven right? Your words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: that doesn’t mean he gets a pass. The people whose lives were destroyed certainly didn’t. Funny how it’s so easy to look past how terrible your candidates history is when it suits you. If he was a republican you would be saying the same things I am. As far as policy goes. Trumps record with minorities is far far better than Biden’s and that is a fact not an opinion. Do I wish Biden success? Absolutely. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think he he’s a giant piece of ***** who has ruined countless lives in this country with his irresponsible policy and for him to continue to be in government despite all of that is what’s wrong with our government. You talk as if Donald Trump wasn't all for those policies and wouldn't have voted for them if he was in Congress back then. Should he get a pass cause he wasn't in position to vote for these bills even tho he clearly supported them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: that doesn’t mean he gets a pass. The people whose lives were destroyed certainly didn’t. Funny how it’s so easy to look past how terrible your candidates history is when it suits you. If he was a republican you would be saying the same things I am. As far as policy goes. Trumps record with minorities is far far better than Biden’s and that is a fact not an opinion. Do I wish Biden success? Absolutely. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think he he’s a giant piece of ***** who has ruined countless lives in this country with his irresponsible policy and for him to continue to be in government despite all of that is what’s wrong with our government. Well America has ruined countless lives on both sides as well as the world. However people are changing. (Well some) restoration of voting rights amendments passing in states like FL with HUGE history of Republican GOP disenfranchisement of hundreds of thousands of Americans. And even AFTER Floridians Spoke DeSantis went right to court to Try to continue the disenfranchisement (to trumps glee by the way). so really can’t talk out of one side of the political spectrum on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, StHustle said: You talk as if Donald Trump wasn't all for those policies and wouldn't have voted for them if he was in Congress back then. Should he get a pass cause he wasn't in position to vote for these bills even tho he clearly supported them? Trump wasn’t in office. You’re right he may have supported them at the time but when he got to office he did the opposite and put forth the first step act which helped ex cons. Biden’s bills were so bad there is no reason he ever should have been allowed back in office. That’s the problem here. ***** lifelong pols that ruin America. But he gets a pass cause he’s a democrat. Hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Trump wasn’t in office. You’re right he may have supported them at the time but when he got to office he did the opposite and put forth the first step act which helped ex cons. Biden’s bills were so bad there is no reason he ever should have been allowed back in office. That’s the problem here. ***** lifelong pols that ruin America. But he gets a pass cause he’s a democrat. Hypocrisy Really then why did he support DeSantis lawsuit to continue to disenfranchise them, even AFTER Floridians voted for restoration and made it a State Amendment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well America has ruined countless lives on both sides as well as the world. However people are changing. (Well some) restoration of voting rights amendments passing in states like FL with HUGE history of Republican GOP disenfranchisement of hundreds of thousands of Americans. And even AFTER Floridians Spoke DeSantis went right to court to Try to continue the disenfranchisement (to trumps glee by the way). so really can’t talk out of one side of the political spectrum on this. Well the issue of the year is the blm movement right? Besides covid. Biden’s bills are a large reason that movement exists because of how it destroyed the black community. It’s like hiring the guy who started the fire to put out the fire. It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Gene1973 said: There is something to actual in person conversation with someone with a differing opinion. Much different than online. I think in this day and age most people are afraid of the real life interactions. That's just not true. Most people have jobs and interact in real life. You're talking about a small percentage. More than in the past, but small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Well the issue of the year is the blm movement right? Besides covid. Biden’s bills are a large reason that movement exists because of how it destroyed the black community. It’s like hiring the guy who started the fire to put out the fire. It makes no sense. Well people change and gain different perspective. He owned it. Explained why it was wrong. That takes honor, humility and guts to admit a mistake the former “president” the next time he owns a mistake will be his first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Really then why did he support DeSantis lawsuit to continue to disenfranchise them, even AFTER Floridians voted for restoration and made it a State Amendment? I believe the issue is that they hadn’t paid their fines from their court cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Well people change and gain different perspective. He owned it. Explained why it was wrong. That takes honor, humility and guts to admit a mistake the former “president” the next time he owns a mistake will be his first. I mean it's not like he said a group of kids should be executed and then when DNA evidence exonerated them refused to change his opinion or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Well people change and gain different perspective. He owned it. Explained why it was wrong. That takes honor, humility and guts to admit a mistake the former “president” the next time he owns a mistake will be his first. good for him for admitting he was wrong for ruining millions of families. I’m sure they’re cool with it. I do find this very amusing in you trying to explain your hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: I believe the issue is that they hadn’t paid their fines from their court cases. Yep the Spin which isn’t what was in the Amendment we voted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean it's not like he said a group of kids should be executed and then when DNA evidence exonerated them refused to change his opinion or something. good thing he actually had nothing to do with the case and how it was tried. There is a difference between some guy having an opinion and our elected leaders passing bills that wound up ruining millions of lives. I mean the two couldn’t be further apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: good for him for admitting he was wrong for ruining millions of families. I’m sure they’re cool with it. I do find this very amusing in you trying to explain your hypocrisy. Was he. So explain how Joe Biden passed a Bill in the House, Senate and signed it into law? Once you can do that we can talk hypocrisy. additionally should we look the other way about a guy deporting military veterans (ignoring America’s Promise to them). Ignore the actions of him causing over 500 children possibly never seeing their parents again? Edited November 7, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Was he. So explain how Joe Biden passed a Bill in the House, Senate and signed it into law? Once you can do that we can talk hypocrisy. how about we settle this. Between trumps policies and Biden’s who have ruined more lives? The 86 bill, 94 bill and anything trump has done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: how about we settle this. Between trumps policies and Biden’s who have ruined more lives? The 86 bill, 94 bill and anything trump has done? should we look the other way about a guy deporting military veterans (ignoring America’s Promise to them). Ignore the actions of him causing over 500 children possibly never seeing their parents again? The same guy that cozies up to Dictators, White Nationalist (tell me about Steven Miller). I guess as you said will look the other way of someone’s recent past if you agree with him. Edited November 7, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: should we look the other way about a guy deporting military veterans (ignoring America’s Promise to them). Ignore the actions of him causing over 500 children possibly never seeing their parents again? So I guess you won’t answer it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, aristocrat said: So I guess you won’t answer it? Once you can answer mine if you want to play the hypocrite card. tell me about Steven Miller (you know Donald’s trusted White Nationalist). donald has ZERO empathy, ZERO humility, Zero anything. Everything people and all are just a resource for a business transaction. And resources to be used to get what he wants in said business transactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: should we look the other way about a guy deporting military veterans (ignoring America’s Promise to them). Ignore the actions of him causing over 500 children possibly never seeing their parents again? I guess as you said will look the other way of someone’s recent past if you agree with him. https://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/democracy/news/2020/06/15/177863/trump-administrations-top-20-actions-kept-puerto-ricans-crisis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Once you can answer mine if you want to play the hypocrite card. tell me about Steven Miller (you know Donald’s trusted White Nationalist). donald has ZERO empathy, ZERO humility, Zero anything. Everything people and all are just a resource for a business transaction. And resources to be used to get what he wants in said business transactions. So at least you admit Biden has a far worse record as a politician than trump does. Definitely deserved another chance to get it right! How many people ended up dying because of his policies? The things that go along with being in prison, getting out and having nothing of a future so you just end up dying one way or another? But I’m sure glad joe said he was sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: https://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/democracy/news/2020/06/15/177863/trump-administrations-top-20-actions-kept-puerto-ricans-crisis/ Yep everyone advised to him from his buddy the White Nationalist Stephen Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: https://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/democracy/news/2020/06/15/177863/trump-administrations-top-20-actions-kept-puerto-ricans-crisis/ I’m not completely familiar but didn’t like half the government there get arrested for embezzling the disaster relief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: So at least you admit Biden has a far worse record as a politician than trump does. Definitely deserved another chance to get it right! How many people ended up dying because of his policies? The things that go along with being in prison, getting out and having nothing of a future so you just end up dying one way or another? But I’m sure glad joe said he was sorry. well over 230k and counting. how many dies in PR in the aftermath of Maria? How many children raped and dead in DHS custody? I can play this game all day long. You have a crime Bill that Both Parties supported (and was needed to get Newt to allow some of Clinton’s agenda). You know Newt the guy Trump adores. and no America’s mistake “president” Trump didn’t deserve a second chance. And America just said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: I’m not completely familiar but didn’t like half the government there get arrested for embezzling the disaster relief? Would that not fall under him to fix and to continue to help the people even if that were true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Trump wasn’t in office. You’re right he may have supported them at the time but when he got to office he did the opposite and put forth the first step act which helped ex cons. Biden’s bills were so bad there is no reason he ever should have been allowed back in office. That’s the problem here. ***** lifelong pols that ruin America. But he gets a pass cause he’s a democrat. Hypocrisy So is Trump a hypocrite for clearly being all for the ideology behind these bills you bring up but then passing prison bill reforms? Or do you think I should accept that Trumps mindset has changed on the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: well over 230k and counting. how many dies in PR in the aftermath of Maria? How many children raped and dead in DHS custody? I can play this game all day long. You have a crime Bill that Both Parties supported (and was needed to get Newt to allow some of Clinton’s agenda). You know Newt the guy Trump adores. and no America’s mistake “president” Trump didn’t deserve a second chance. And America just said that. you elected a guy with a much worse political record than Trump has. And you’re dancing around trying to justify it. You’ve already admitted it’s far worse than what Trump has done. btw Biden and Obama deported far more than trump ever did and do you think kids were only raped under trump? Hard no. Probably going on longer but i can’t blame Biden or Trump for the acts of those people. Just now, StHustle said: So is Trump a hypocrite for clearly being all for the ideology behind these bills you bring up but then passing prison bill reforms? Or do you think I should accept that Trumps mindset has changed on the issue? Here’s my issue. Biden wrote the bills and got them passed. He faced no consequences for them. I can accept him apologizing for it but I can’t understand how he gets to be the leader of the free world. We’ve spent years blaming trump for dividing the country. But when you step back and look at the reasons we’re divided you realize Biden had far more responsibility for that than Trump. So that’s where the hypocrisy comes in. You voted in the guy who is causing the violence in the streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: you elected a guy with a much worse political record than Trump has. And you’re dancing around trying to justify it. You’ve already admitted it’s far worse than what Trump has done. btw Biden and Obama deported far more than trump ever did and do you think kids were only raped under trump? Hard no. Probably going on longer but i can’t blame Biden or Trump for the acts of those people. Whose trying to justify it Biden has admitted it as a mistake that he's learned from. What one these things has Trumped apologized or recognized his own fault in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Whose trying to justify it Biden has admitted it as a mistake that he's learned from. What one these things has Trumped apologized or recognized his own fault in? He was forced to admit fault as a stipulation when his charity defrauded other charities out of two million dollars. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Wait a second, I'm catching up to this thread... Did those who engaged in constant belittling of others move to another website... Like a three bills drive site? With that said, if they aren't coming back on, let's not turn this into an echo chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said: He was forced to admit fault as a stipulation when his charity defrauded other charities out of two million dollars. Does that count? I'd file that with agreeing to stop discriminating against Black tenants while not having to admit to having done so. 1 minute ago, nkreed said: Wait a second, I'm catching up to this thread... Did those who engaged in constant belittling of others move to another website... Like a three bills drive site? With that said, if they aren't coming back on, let's not turn this into an echo chamber. It's more of a PPP site.....and oh yeah the Bills too stuck on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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