Don Otreply Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) On 10/26/2020 at 12:48 PM, BarleyNY said: He wasn’t traded off of the Bills. We let him leave as a FA. Expand True, but he played like he didn’t want yo be here, 😁 Edited October 26, 2020 by Don Otreply
Wayne Cubed Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Where does he go then? One of the NFC West teams? I’d like to think he doesn’t go anywhere in the AFC but this is the Pats and they don’t seem to care.
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I was talking with my buddy who is a pats fan during the pats 49rs game and he thinks they should blow it all up, trade whoever they can. No star power anywhere on offense, he sees it as a ten year rebuild lol
GunnerBill Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:51 PM, thebandit27 said: I’d ship ‘em a 3 for Thuney right now. At worst you get it back in 2022 draft after he signs a big FA deal. Expand Isn't he on the tag though? Not sure we can fit him under the cap, can we? As for Gilmore.... pondering potential trade destinations..... would have to be a team in the race who need a corner..... San Fran? Seattle? Green Bay? Not looked at cap numbers to see how feasible any of those are.
JimKellyTryouts Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:38 PM, Rigotz said: 1) we don’t have the cap space for him 2) he’s overpaid 3) it makes zero sense to have two $20+MM corners 4) he’s not worth a 1st round pick Expand I can agree with #1 and #3 but...the others are highly debatable (and more likely incorrect), yes?
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 The Patriots over Paid Gilmore we over paid White and the Panthers over paid Norman. Gilmore is having a slightly down year but nothing close to the down year White is having. If traded right now Im guessing the Patriots might get a 2nd and a 5th for Gilmore. If we traded White right now we would get a 4th rounder and a bag of chips.
Don Otreply Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:49 PM, thebandit27 said: 1) he didn’t get traded from Buffalo 2) he wanted to get paid; it had nothing to do with not wanting to be in Buffalo—that’s just something fans say practically every time a player leaves and gets big money elsewhere Expand Yes I was wrong on the trade thing, but he sure didn’t want to be here, and played that way towards the end, that can’t really be argued
GunnerBill Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:54 PM, Gene1973 said: But he was playing poorly before the back/didn't want to play the COVIDS injury... Expand My understanding is that he suffered it initially in week 2 and played on for a couple of games before the discomfort became such that they sat him. 2
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:38 PM, Rigotz said: 1) we don’t have the cap space for him 2) he’s overpaid 3) it makes zero sense to have two $20+MM corners 4) he’s not worth a 1st round pick Expand who else at Cb makes over 20 million? I know dane Jackson Had a good debut but he’s still got a few more years on the rookie deal 1
FLFan Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:41 PM, BuffaloRebound said: Makes sense. Watched some of the 49ers game yesterday. Gilmore was playing like he didn’t want to be there. Expand Well, Bills fans should be familiar with that particular behavior from Gilmore. 1
Mark80 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:38 PM, Rigotz said: 1) we don’t have the cap space for him 2) he’s overpaid 3) it makes zero sense to have two $20+MM corners 4) he’s not worth a 1st round pick Expand I mean, the guy did win Defensive Player of the Year last season. Come on now. 1
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:54 PM, JimKellyTryouts said: I can agree with #1 and #3 but...the others are highly debatable (and more likely incorrect), yes? Expand they’re actually all incorrect 1
BarleyNY Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:53 PM, Don Otreply said: True, but he played like he didn’t want yo be here, 😁 Expand I think he wanted paid - and to win. I think he was frustrated here because he had to play out his fifth year option with no extension and we weren’t all that competitive as a team. He got both with NE. Until recently that is. Now he’s just getting paid. 1
TAinLack. Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:43 PM, wjag said: Anything, and I mean anything, that dismantles the Patriots, I'm all for. Send him to TB or KC. They seem to be able to sign anyone they want. 🙂 I grew up hating the Dolphins. I want to go back to that for the next decade or so. Expand Let the fire sale begin!
Don Otreply Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:59 PM, BarleyNY said: I think he wanted paid - and to win. I think he was frustrated here because he had to play out his fifth year option with no extension and we weren’t all that competitive as a team. He got both with NE. Until recently that is. Now he’s just getting paid. Expand Those are all valid points, in essence, ya can’t really blame him, the Bills were not at that time a winning organization. 1
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Breer is pretty legit. Some good teams like Seattle, Indy and 49ers could use the secondary help. NE may even be willing to eat some of the cap hit this year, if the draft pick trade package is good enough. I believe Gillmore will be traded to a team trying to make a SB run.
BarleyNY Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 1:01 PM, Don Otreply said: Those are all valid points, in essence, ya can’t really blame him, the Bills were not at that time a winning organization. Expand Yeah. I don’t. And I understand that he is a CB who excels in man coverage and we were moving to a zone, primarily C-3 scheme so we probably didn’t want to pay him to see how he played bail technique. I get it, but I always hate moving on from elite players because they don’t fit a new scheme. It seems to me like great coaches should be able to adapt their scheme to maximize the impact of great players. It was probably just too late to salvage the relationship when McD got here. We were at a point where a franchise tag was our only option and that would’ve likely led to a disgruntled player on and off the field.
YoloinOhio Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I think Gilmore is really good. I think he becomes somewhat disinterested when not winning.
Gordio Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:55 PM, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The Patriots over Paid Gilmore we over paid White and the Panthers over paid Norman. Gilmore is having a slightly down year but nothing close to the down year White is having. If traded right now Im guessing the Patriots might get a 2nd and a 5th for Gilmore. If we traded White right now we would get a 4th rounder and a bag of chips. Expand I think this COVID thing is really messing with White's head. If I remember correctly he was really close to opting out this year. It seems like he is shying away from contact. I am also convinced the Tenn game he told the coaches he wasn't comfortable playing due to the covid issues ten was having at the time. Just a thought, but he looks like a totally different player out there this year compared to years past.
whatdrought Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I wouldn't mind them trading him before we play them. Seems like a white flag type of move though... More likely if we beat them probably.
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