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56 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

You idiots are a lost cause. A Biden world will be soooooo much fun, won't it. His policies are so good aren't they, that's why you voted for him right!

 

I give it 6 months and you idiots will be regretting making him president.

Hey, all the nutbars went to the other site. Do you want the link? 

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1 hour ago, Big Gun said:

You idiots are a lost cause. A Biden world will be soooooo much fun, won't it. His policies are so good aren't they, that's why you voted for him right!

 

I give it 6 months and you idiots will be regretting making him president.

 

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2 hours ago, Big Gun said:

You idiots are a lost cause. A Biden world will be soooooo much fun, won't it. His policies are so good aren't they, that's why you voted for him right!

 

I give it 6 months and you idiots will be regretting making him president.

Yes.  He won’t fund for profit charter schools.  Farmers don’t have to worry about having to rely on welfare.  The ACA won’t be under attack.  If the Dems can somehow retake the Senate a public option would be passed expanding health care and driving down premiums.  

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2 hours ago, Big Gun said:

I give it 6 months and you idiots will be regretting making him president.

We can just fastforward if you like. I don't want him to be president now, and neither do most of his voters.

America didn't vote for Biden - they voted against Trump. It's all in the data.

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35 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Yes.  He won’t fund for profit charter schools.  Farmers don’t have to worry about having to rely on welfare.  The ACA won’t be under attack.  If the Dems can somehow retake the Senate a public option would be passed expanding health care and driving down premiums.  

Wow, put the crack pipe down dude

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40 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

We can just fastforward if you like. I don't want him to be president now, and neither do most of his voters.

America didn't vote for Biden - they voted against Trump. It's all in the data.

 

This...is actually a very sane take.

 

Many center, or center-right voters defected from the GOP on this vote more in protest of that odious man than being enamored with Biden.

 

Look at Arizona. The idiot may have been able to win that state outright, but he kept calling their golden boy McCain a loser for being a POW and had 0 grace even after the man died.

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

This...is actually a very sane take.

 

Many center, or center-right voters defected from the GOP on this vote more in protest of that odious man than being enamored with Biden.

 

Look at Arizona. The idiot may have been able to win that state outright, but he kept calling their golden boy McCain a loser for being a POW and had 0 grace even after the man died.

 

 

 

 

AZ isn't even the best example, because they elected blue senators. better examples are Maine and GA where Republican senators outpaced Trump. People that voted for Susan Collins voted for Joe "sniffyokids" Biden because Trump is that horrific of a human being.

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9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

AZ isn't even the best example, because they elected blue senators. better examples are Maine and GA where Republican senators outpaced Trump. People that voted for Susan Collins voted for Joe "sniffyokids" Biden because Trump is that horrific of a human being.


Thats President-elect Joe “sniffyokids” Biden. Show some respect for the office that hasn’t been there in 4 years.

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3 hours ago, Big Gun said:

Wow, put the crack pipe down dude

I’ve got more since you asked...

-Lowering Medicare age to 60

-Stopping oil extraction on public lands with Wildlife like Alaska

-Making it easier to repay student loan debt that are destroying families.

-Stop giving the Saudi’s financial support in their war with Yemen.

-Increase taxes on those making 400k a year and raising corporate tax rate to help pay for increased social safety net programs.

-Increased Wall Street regulations to avoid a 2008 type crash.

-Stop increasing our bloated military budget.

-Increase police funding for training including mental health training.

-Help provide funding to retrain workers who’s jobs are gone likely forever (coal miners, retail workers)

 

I have more though as that was an excellent retort.

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8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I’ve got more since you asked...

-Lowering Medicare age to 60

-Stopping oil extraction on public lands with Wildlife like Alaska

-Making it easier to repay student loan debt that are destroying families.

-Stop giving the Saudi’s financial support in their war with Yemen.

-Increase taxes on those making 400k a year and raising corporate tax rate to help pay for increased social safety net programs.

-Increased Wall Street regulations to avoid a 2008 type crash.

-Stop increasing our bloated military budget.

-Increase police funding for training including mental health training.

-Help provide funding to retrain workers who’s jobs are gone likely forever (coal miners, retail workers)

 

I have more though as that was an excellent retort.

You're so weak its comical.

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12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I’ve got more since you asked...

-Lowering Medicare age to 60

-Stopping oil extraction on public lands with Wildlife like Alaska

-Making it easier to repay student loan debt that are destroying families.

-Stop giving the Saudi’s financial support in their war with Yemen.

-Increase taxes on those making 400k a year and raising corporate tax rate to help pay for increased social safety net programs.

-Increased Wall Street regulations to avoid a 2008 type crash.

-Stop increasing our bloated military budget.

-Increase police funding for training including mental health training.

-Help provide funding to retrain workers who’s jobs are gone likely forever (coal miners, retail workers)

 

I have more though as that was an excellent retort.


Those are all great!

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6 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:


Those are all great!

Democrats need to focus on policy more and culture wars less to win at a much higher rate.  Getting Trump out is hopefully a first step.

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

It’s not that I agree with you as much as you didn’t post something that wasn’t trollish for a change.  

So, by trollish, you mean against your beliefs. 
 

(I didn’t post something the wasn’t trollish? WTF does that even mean?)

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Why not work on making college more affordable than making me pay for someone else’s kids college?  


You could do both at the same time. 

This is the most republican thing ever.

 

1) When they give tax cuts to the wealthy, and Republicans are asked how will we pay for that? They say tax cuts will increase GDP which will increase tax revenues. Here, more people having money each month will increase GDP and pay for itself.

 

2) Studies have shown student loans hinder people from starting families. GOP loves families, support it.

 

3) GOP loves babies being born (granted they don’t care what happens after) but people having the additional funds each month can afford to have a baby!

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29 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Why not work on making college more affordable than making me pay for someone else’s kids college?  

I'd rather have my money go to making college more affordable than more tanks but helping relieve college debt would lead to a more vibrant economy in the long run as people have more money to spend.

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1 hour ago, Q-baby! said:

So, by trollish, you mean against your beliefs. 
 

(I didn’t post something the wasn’t trollish? WTF does that even mean?)

 

Most of what you post is empty trolling.  You exist only to get under people's skin.  

 

When you don't, you're actually a pretty decent poster.  But that's rare.

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5 minutes ago, New Improved DC Tom said:

 

Most of what you post is empty trolling.  You exist only to get under people's skin.  

 

When you don't, you're actually a pretty decent poster.  But that's rare.

BS! I have yet to post anything even remotely close to being decent! 

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10 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


How would you make or easier to repay student loan debt?  

 

Stop guaranteeing student loans to students at for-profit colleges and trade schools that are scams.   These schools need to go through a periodic accreditation process by an outside organization just like non-profit colleges and universities go through.

 

Allowing borrowers who've been paying their loans back for several years to be able to discharge them through bankruptcy if they suffer economic hardship for other causes like lost jobs or business failures, medical problems, etc.

 

There's a program I believe that allows forgiveness of student loans based on public service.  Right now, it's kind of hard to become eligible for that program.  Expand it and make more job types/professions eligible.  For example, I think that medical professionals from nurses to doctors working in public health ought to be eligible for 50-70% of their loans forgiven based on how many years they work in the field of public health.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Stop guaranteeing student loans to students at for-profit colleges and trade schools that are scams.   These schools need to go through a periodic accreditation process by an outside organization just like non-profit colleges and universities go through.

 

Allowing borrowers who've been paying their loans back for several years to be able to discharge them through bankruptcy if they suffer economic hardship for other causes like lost jobs or business failures, medical problems, etc.

 

There's a program I believe that allows forgiveness of student loans based on public service.  Right now, it's kind of hard to become eligible for that program.  Expand it and make more job types/professions eligible.  For example, I think that medical professionals from nurses to doctors working in public health ought to be eligible for 50-70% of their loans forgiven based on how many years they work in the field of public health.

 

 


The public student loan forgiveness is for people who work 10 years in a federal or state government job or for a 501(c)(3). There’s a couple others jobs in there as well but not popular ones. 


Amounts under this program that are forgiven are not taxed.
 

There is currently a 20 or 25 year loan forgiveness for everyone on Federal student loan debt. Amounts under this program, the forgiveness is taxed.

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There is no good principled reason to exempt student loans from bankruptcy forgiveness.  It’s a gift given to lenders/servicers.  The argument that they wouldn’t underwrite the loans without that exemption is a bad one - maybe they shouldn’t be underwriting those loans, then, and it might force private colleges to compete on price.

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