Doc Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: It didn’t. And instead of using the proper name, you choose to demonize a certain group and culture. No, just a regime. No one has blamed the Chinese citizens at anytime or anywhere. 8 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: If it came from Moscow, it wouldn't be racist. It would be collusion...a virus invented for Trump by his commie bed partners. Yup. Edited August 31, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Lol. the DNC must really be crapping their diapers... You can always tell by the desperation of the lefty loser(s)? here who start throwing new poo posts at a frantic pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Doc said: No, just a regime. No one has blamed the Chinese citizens at anytime or anywhere. Yup. If you’re “regime” point had water you’d call it something with “Beijing” in the name. But you didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: Lots of interesting takes here. Most either misread the question or ignored the “we” therein. The question isn’t whether you (as an individual) are better off now than you were four years ago. It’s whether we, as a nation and a people, are so better off. My answer has been registered: it is patently obvious that we are not better off. So, say what you want or be deemed obtuse. Yeah, you're objective and unbiased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Obama left the country in good shape. Trump is trying to ruin it like he ruins everything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Obama left the country in good shape. Edited August 31, 2020 by I am the egg man 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Obama left the country in good shape. Trump is trying to ruin it like he ruins everything. No he didn't, it was the worse recovery of a recession ever, the military was in disarray, little border security, and allies taking advantage of him and the country 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: What else can you do when you are losing, lol. Just now, bilzfancy said: No he didn't, it was the worse recovery of a recession ever, the military was in disarray, little border security, and allies taking advantage of him and the country We were Great back then. Make America Great Again! Dump Trump! and Flush, please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 33 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: If you’re “regime” point had water you’d call it something with “Beijing” in the name. But you didn’t. Well that's the problem with inferring racism. It begs the question: who is the real racist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What else can you do when you are losing, lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: Yup. If this had come from, say, Msocow, would it still be racist? Or even worse, a red state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Notice the word “we.” I say no. Obviously no. Too many unnecessary, avoidable deaths. Too much insecurity. Too much economic malaise in the middle and lower classes. Not enough federal leadership. What say you? *And I acknowledge that if the word “you” was used instead of “we,” the answer might be different for some. If you have the money to be in the market and you know what you’re doing, you very well may be better off now. But that’s only a fraction of Americans, and we are all in this together. So, the question remains, are “we” better off now than we were four years ago? Sure as hell isnt because of Trump. The leftest babies still cant acknowledge Hillary lost and this is how they act out. Bravo, losers! Edited August 31, 2020 by Big Gun 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said: If it came from Moscow, it wouldn't be racist. It would be collusion...a virus invented for Trump by his commie bed partners. Yes, a conspiracy to help him win the popular vote by wiping out urban populations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Lots of interesting takes here. Most either misread the question or ignored the “we” therein. The question isn’t whether you (as an individual) are better off now than you were four years ago. It’s whether we, as a nation and a people, are so better off. My answer has been registered: it is patently obvious that we are not better off. On budgets, deficit, entitlement funding, worse. Taxes lower for businesses and individuals, reduced regulations, better. Historically low interest rates, good for investment and home buying and funding debt, better. Some economic incentives for low income urban areas and some relief in criminal justice system, better. Stock market, better. Health insurance regulations not significantly improved, not better, same Illegal immigration, border crossing down after rising in recent years, wall being constructed, no help from dems on tightening laws and giving dreamers permanent status, not much better. Foreign policy, troops in ME reduced, NATO shored up, trade deals improving, exposed china in some areas, recent peace agreement with Israel gives some additional hope for more peace, better. Hundreds of federal judges appointed, 2 for SCOTUS, moving in the direction of more strict interpretation of law, better. Exposing previous admin using DOJ and IC as political weapon, many bad actors removed, hopefully improved integrity within these agencies, better. Climate, greenhouse emissions which in the U.S. peaked in 2006 continue to improve, but globally not so. Better domestic performance, world not better. Military equipment getting refreshed after decades of overseas operations, better. Covid 19, unfortunate temporary setback, easy to MMQB but overall a tremendous response from governments at all levels, from health care workers and business owners all of which have faced huge challenges. The worst is over. Edited August 31, 2020 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Gun said: Sure as hell isnt because of Trump. The leftest babies still cant acknowledge Hillary lost and this is how they act out. Bravo, losers! And yet you can't answer the question. Or won't. Because you know the answer. The lives of Americans are not better now than they were four years ago. 3 hours ago, I am the egg man said: So, say what you want or be deemed obtuse. Yeah, you're objective and unbiased. It's not about saying what you want. It's about basic reading comprehension. As in, don't answer about your personal circumstances, but answer for the country as a whole. 2 hours ago, Doc said: Well that's the problem with inferring racism. It begs the question: who is the real racist? In this instance, it's you. The best way for you not to be a racist is to not say stupid, racist things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Considering the pandemic, if you can really call it that, and the economic fallout associated with that, combined with racial tensions, its hard to say Americans are better off. The real question is what is the underlying cause of this decay? Never Trumpers will moan that its all Trumps fault....its just what they do. This is much bigger than any individual. Take a look at all the efforts the DNC has made to derail literally everything this president has attempted to do. They will literally stop at nothing to carry out their agenda. They have sewn division everywhere they can, and blame Trump. They create civil unrest, and blame Trump. Given the timing of it, I wouldn't be surprised if they were responsible for unleashing the virus....and blaming Trump. They have the media at their disposal, college campuses blocking conservative viewpoints and Hollywood echoing their viewpoints. They have accepted billions of dollars from known global socialists and created groups that prey on the emotions of individuals, all the while using those individuals as puppets to carry out an agenda that has nothing to do with what appears on the surface. Its not about equality, its about causing civil unrest and division. They are so hell bent on removing a man that recognizes them for what they are, that they are willing to sacrifice the well being of an entire nation. This organized group of globalists have been at this for decades, and they are getting so close they can taste it. They are the root cause of what we are seeing today. Some will say Trump caused this, but the reality is that this is what caused Trump. Who else would have the sack to stand up to this? 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: In this instance, it's you. The best way for you not to be a racist is to not say stupid, racist things. Wuhan virus. The place of origin. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything else you want to infer is all on you, sparky. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Wuhan virus. The place of origin. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything else you want to infer is all on you, sparky. Poor Sparky doesn't appear to understand what the word 'racist' means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Wuhan virus. The place of origin. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything else you want to infer is all on you, sparky. Sparky, eh? Channeling you inner jerky boys tonight. Better than blowing your racist dog whistle, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Before the New York Virus, why weren't you better off in March of 2020 then you were 4 years ago? Which Trump policy negatively impacted your life and made you worse off? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Brueggs said: Considering the pandemic, if you can really call it that, and the economic fallout associated with that, combined with racial tensions, its hard to say Americans are better off. The real question is what is the underlying cause of this decay? Never Trumpers will moan that its all Trumps fault....its just what they do. This is much bigger than any individual. Take a look at all the efforts the DNC has made to derail literally everything this president has attempted to do. They will literally stop at nothing to carry out their agenda. They have sewn division everywhere they can, and blame Trump. They create civil unrest, and blame Trump. Given the timing of it, I wouldn't be surprised if they were responsible for unleashing the virus....and blaming Trump. They have the media at their disposal, college campuses blocking conservative viewpoints and Hollywood echoing their viewpoints. They have accepted billions of dollars from known global socialists and created groups that prey on the emotions of individuals, all the while using those individuals as puppets to carry out an agenda that has nothing to do with what appears on the surface. Its not about equality, its about causing civil unrest and division. They are so hell bent on removing a man that recognizes them for what they are, that they are willing to sacrifice the well being of an entire nation. This organized group of globalists have been at this for decades, and they are getting so close they can taste it. They are the root cause of what we are seeing today. Some will say Trump caused this, but the reality is that this is what caused Trump. Who else would have the sack to stand up to this? That’s a lot of conspiracy theory in one paragraph. Impressive . I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Sparky, eh? Channeling you inner jerky boys tonight. Better than blowing your racist dog whistle, I suppose. Not everything is racist. Maybe one day you libs will learn that. Or at least, stop using it as a crutch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) I'd frame this question in the what if: What's President Hilary R. Clinton been up to for four years? What would America look like if she had won in 2016 and became President? I think President Clinton has America engaged in a hot war in Syria and Iran, with heavy 2005-era insurgency action in Iraq and Afghanistan. America's military is weary, and the American public is divisively split on the conflict. Yes Trump's America is a complete mess but HRC's America is just as messy. Where Trump is a narcissist, Clinton's hubris is right on that level. We should get around to fielding better candidates sometime. Edited September 1, 2020 by dpberr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SectionC3 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Doc said: Not everything is racist. Maybe one day you libs will learn that. Or at least, stop using it as a crutch. I know that not everything is racist. But I also know that "Wuhan virus" is racist. Maybe one day you will stop blowing that dog whistle. 7 hours ago, dpberr said: I'd frame this question in the what if: What's President Hilary R. Clinton been up to for four years? What would America look like if she had won in 2016 and became President? I think President Clinton has America engaged in a hot war in Syria and Iran, with heavy 2005-era insurgency action in Iraq and Afghanistan. America's military is weary, and the American public is divisively split on the conflict. Yes Trump's America is a complete mess but HRC's America is just as messy. Where Trump is a narcissist, Clinton's hubris is right on that level. We should get around to fielding better candidates sometime. Your views on Hillary are interesting. Maybe they're right. But we'll never know. Bottom line, though: in your opinion, Trump's America is a complete mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I know that not everything is racist. But I also know that "Wuhan virus" is racist. Maybe one day you will stop blowing that dog whistle. You are terribly uninformed. Virtually all major pandemic like diseases are named after their place of origin. It has nothing to do with race at all. It has to do with GEOGRAPHY!! Do you think Ebola is some fancy marketing term? What about SARS? What about MERS? What about Lyme disease? Sheeeesh! By the way, were you outraged when Governor Cuomo called it the Euro Virus during the DNC? Or was that OK....because, you know, they’re mostly white people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: I know that not everything is racist. But I also know that "Wuhan virus" is racist. Maybe one day you will stop blowing that dog whistle. It's not. Move on from your puppet masters' talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kemp said: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/25/jacob-blake-shooting-white-house-says-evers-turned-down-federal-help/3439506001/ https://www.npr.org/2020/06/02/867565338/governors-push-back-on-trumps-threat-to-deploy-federal-troops-to-quell-unrest https://www.voanews.com/usa/democratic-governors-reject-trumps-call-send-military Democrats own the mess they have allowed. Edited September 1, 2020 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: Your faux outrage is duly noted, now where's my coffee???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 hours ago, SectionC3 said: That’s a lot of conspiracy theory in one paragraph. Impressive . I guess. Outside of the intentional spread of the virus, which I didn't say happened, I said it wouldn't surprise me....what isn't true? Are you trying to tell me the MSM, college campuses and Hollywood mouth pieces have a level playing field for liberals and conservatives? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gary M said: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/25/jacob-blake-shooting-white-house-says-evers-turned-down-federal-help/3439506001/ https://www.npr.org/2020/06/02/867565338/governors-push-back-on-trumps-threat-to-deploy-federal-troops-to-quell-unrest https://www.voanews.com/usa/democratic-governors-reject-trumps-call-send-military Democrats own the mess they have allowed. I guess I was wrong when I thought Trump was the sitting President. Thanks for the correction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kemp said: I guess I was wrong when I thought Trump was the sitting President. Thanks for the correction. actually that is the only thing you have right. POTUS can not do anything about the rioters until he is asked by the governors. He is working within the constitution. Are you suggesting he should ignore that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary M said: actually that is the only thing you have right. POTUS can not do anything about the rioters until he is asked by the governors. He is working within the constitution. Are you suggesting he should ignore that? It hasn't stopped him before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary M said: actually that is the only thing you have right. POTUS can not do anything about the rioters until he is asked by the governors. He is working within the constitution. Are you suggesting he should ignore that? Only saying that all we are witnessing is during his administration. That stuff used to matter to you folks. Different now, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buftex said: It hasn't stopped him before. When? 1 minute ago, Kemp said: Only saying that all we are witnessing is during his administration. That stuff used to matter to you folks. Different now, eh? because democrats refuse to stop it, and in some cases encourage it. Edited September 1, 2020 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary M said: When? because democrats refuse to stop it. So, how are we better off than 4 years ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Kemp said: So, how are we better off than 4 years ago? Better trade deals, less wars, booming economy (prior to covid), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, Doc said: It's not. Move on from your puppet masters' talking points. It is. It’s a racist canard. It fans bigotry, prejudice, and fear. If you decide to use it, that’s on you. It’s disappointing that you’re not better than that. 1 minute ago, Gary M said: Better trade deals, less wars, booming economy (prior to covid), One of the key words in the question is “now.” So are we better off “now” than we were four years ago? Your “prior to COVID” qualification implies that we are not? And, if I could ask, for whom is the economy booming? For Wall Street? Or Main Street? Or both? 7 minutes ago, Gary M said: When? Border wall funding is a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: It is. It’s a racist canard. It fans bigotry, prejudice, and fear. If you decide to use it, that’s on you. It’s disappointing that you’re not better than that. One of the key words in the question is “now.” So are we better off “now” than we were four years ago? Your “prior to COVID” qualification implies that we are not? And, if I could ask, for whom is the economy booming? For Wall Street? Or Main Street? Or both? Border wall funding is a prime example. It was a debate!!! Why not say "bedfellows" oh thats right #heelsupharris slept with a married Willie Brown to get ahead (pun intended) Edited September 1, 2020 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary M said: Better trade deals, less wars, booming economy (prior to covid), Booming economy? Another person who doesn't understand that the stock market isn't the country's economy. If everyone in the country was unemployed and 5 million Americans had died from the virus, and homelessness was at a record high, your thimble-like brain would think it was a booming economy.https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/896714437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever I know you won't understand it, but what the hell.Worst quarter ever equals a booming economy. I love the terminally stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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