RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Simply put and I am tired of it. You want to say that Trump is a white supremacist? Then go ahead and make your point and be done with it. I will not agree with it but you will have had your say. To compare anybody that you dislike to a Nazi or Gestapo figure makes light of the things that happened in Europe during the 1930's and 1940's. My family actually suffered at the hands of the Nazi's including murder. Such as being led to the edge of town and being machine gunned into a freshly dug pit. A fate that did not solely rest with Jews but anybody who resisted the Nazi's including paying unreasonable taxes to a movement that they did not believe in. 1 1 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 It's also a widely accepted admission that you are losing an argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 If that's all they've got, then just respond with a yawn. Actually, best not to respond at all. They post ***** like that in order to get you to respond. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Azalin said: If that's all they've got, then just respond with a yawn. Actually, best not to respond at all. They post ***** like that in order to get you to respond. The issue is broader than a few morons on a chat site. In my mind part of the reason the real Nazi's came to power is people failed to take their movement seriously. That Hitler and his ilk would have been tossed aside after a couple of years but that tragically never was the case. I would hate to see the door ever opened here because people failed to comprehend the personalities and the movement. It should be laughable that a supposed far right dictator allows complete freedom of the press but there are gullible people out there eating it with a shovel instead of a spoon. It's just very hard to ignore it when the real Nazi's were very insidious among other things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 both sides of the aisle are guilty of doing some “Nazi-like” things recently, IMO. Trump with his outbursts on Twitter and trying to control Google and other media sources he dislikes. The democrats with their cancel culture, tearing down statues, and mask-shaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The issue is broader than a few morons on a chat site. In my mind part of the reason the real Nazi's came to power is people failed to take their movement seriously. That Hitler and his ilk would have been tossed aside after a couple of years but that tragically never was the case. I would hate to see the door ever opened here because people failed to comprehend the personalities and the movement. It should be laughable that a supposed far right dictator allows complete freedom of the press but there are gullible people out there eating it with a shovel instead of a spoon. It's just very hard to ignore it when the real Nazi's were very insidious among other things. I mistook you to be talking about behavior on this site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Azalin said: I mistook you to be talking about behavior on this site. I am in part but I just wanted to be clear that I saw broader issues as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Is it worse than calling someone a communist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Is it worse than calling someone a communist? Communists are not automatically associated with being systemic murderers like the Nazi's were. Take Meathead Stivic from All in the Family. He is pretty much a communist but one that would rather tax the rich to the point where everybody winds up with the same amount of wealth. No such analogy exists for any Nazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Am I speaking to you, Tiberius? Cuomo could be made to look like a dictator without the Adolf Hitler imagery. Was not the second image that you posted proven to be false? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Is it worse than calling someone a communist? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Golden Goat Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Trump's daughter and son-in-law (both trusted advisers) are Orthodox Jews. Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital when no other president had the BALLS to do it. Other than that, though -- Totally Hitler. ? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, RochesterRob said: Simply put and I am tired of it. You want to say that Trump is a white supremacist? Then go ahead and make your point and be done with it. I will not agree with it but you will have had your say. To compare anybody that you dislike to a Nazi or Gestapo figure makes light of the things that happened in Europe during the 1930's and 1940's. My family actually suffered at the hands of the Nazi's including murder. Such as being led to the edge of town and being machine gunned into a freshly dug pit. A fate that did not solely rest with Jews but anybody who resisted the Nazi's including paying unreasonable taxes to a movement that they did not believe in. Hahahaha offended Andy. I love when people take things to the extreme. Edited July 28, 2020 by TBBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Communists are not automatically associated with being systemic murderers like the Nazi's were. Take Meathead Stivic from All in the Family. He is pretty much a communist but one that would rather tax the rich to the point where everybody winds up with the same amount of wealth. No such analogy exists for any Nazi. So it’s ok for your side to call names. 7 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Trump's daughter and son-in-law (both trusted advisers) are Orthodox Jews. Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital when no other president had the BALLS to do it. Other than that, though -- Totally Hitler. ? Hate knows no bounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: Communists are not automatically associated with being systemic murderers like the Nazi's were. Take Meathead Stivic from All in the Family. He is pretty much a communist but one that would rather tax the rich to the point where everybody winds up with the same amount of wealth. No such analogy exists for any Nazi. I believe Stalin alone far exceeded Hitler in sheer number of murders under his regime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Azalin said: I believe Stalin alone far exceeded Hitler in sheer number of murders under his regime. And Mao surpassed them both IIRC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nanker said: And Mao surpassed them both IIRC. If you were trying to defend Communists you failed- if you are simply proving the point Communists suck, you are correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Is it worse than calling someone a communist? I used to think being a Nazi was worse than being a Communist but then I spoke with some old men while visiting Latvia a couple of years ago. The Nazis did not rule your life like Communists did. In Latvia they recognize that Communist would murder you for any version of disageement, the Nazis allowed much more flexibility, just don't get in the way. Both are evil, the degree is only question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Azalin said: I believe Stalin alone far exceeded Hitler in sheer number of murders under his regime. Cuomo gave it his best shot. But alas, he has to settle for most murderous Governor in U.S. history. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: So it’s ok for your side to call names. Hate knows no bounds 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: So it’s ok for your side to call names. Hate knows no bounds I think it is OK to call you a communist given your body of work here. Now to call you Stalin or Mao without a specific post to refer to is too much and I have never called you either despot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Hate knows no bounds You prove that daily. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I used to think being a Nazi was worse than being a Communist but then I spoke with some old men while visiting Latvia a couple of years ago. The Nazis did not rule your life like Communists did. In Latvia they recognize that Communist would murder you for any version of disageement, the Nazis allowed much more flexibility, just don't get in the way. Both are evil, the degree is only question. From what my grandmother said years ago it was pretty easy to run afoul of the Nazi's. In the end the Nazi's considered all of what was within their borders theirs and people were allowed to occupy property as long as they unswervingly served the party. Step the tiniest amount out of line and look out. Like you said both are evil and there is no rational reason to want to live under either system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Everyone calls everyone everything on the cess pool of the Internet. It’s another thing altogether when Nancy and her bottom feeder caucus use the terminology in public. She has to go already! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: You prove that daily. If you say so 34 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I think it is OK to call you a communist given your body of work here. Now to call you Stalin or Mao without a specific post to refer to is too much and I have never called you either despot. You going to cry, oh boo hoo, they say we are Nazis, cry, eat sh it as comfort food, and turn around and call people communists. You are an idiot. And don’t forget to call me a Soros troll, can’t let an anti Semitic go, can you? Were not the nazis anti Semitic??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Who is this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If you say so You going to cry, oh boo hoo, they say we are Nazis, cry, eat sh it as comfort food, and turn around and call people communists. You are an idiot. And don’t forget to call me a Soros troll, can’t let an anti Semitic go, can you? Were not the nazis anti Semitic??? I assume that you peed your pants before you made that post. You are a communist. Own it already. The Soros minion insult has zero to do with his religious background of which he virtually never promotes and you know that. Simply put my insult has zero to do with being Anti-Semitic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If you say so You going to cry, oh boo hoo, they say we are Nazis, cry, eat sh it as comfort food, and turn around and call people communists. You are an idiot. And don’t forget to call me a Soros troll, can’t let an anti Semitic go, can you? Were not the nazis anti Semitic??? Do you denounce anti-Semitism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Do you denounce anti-Semitism? He denounces toilet paper. He thinks that people should smell him before they see him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, RiotAct said: both sides of the aisle are guilty of doing some “Nazi-like” things recently, IMO. Trump with his outbursts on Twitter and trying to control Google and other media sources he dislikes. The democrats with their cancel culture, tearing down statues, and mask-shaming. You can disagree with "cancel culture," tearing down statutes (of racist traitors, to be clear), and mask-shaming. But you can't reasonably liken it to Nazism. That analogy is beyond inapt. It's a joke. Edited July 28, 2020 by SectionC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I think it is OK to call you a communist given your body of work here. Now to call you Stalin or Mao without a specific post to refer to is too much and I have never called you either despot. I mean one would think you'd actually need to know what a communist is before you start calling someone one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You can disagree with "cancel culture," tearing down statutes (of racist traitors, to be clear), and mask-shaming. But you can't reasonable liken it to Nazism. That analogy is beyond inapt. It's a joke. Conform or be canceled seems pretty Nazi to me. Edited July 28, 2020 by CarpetCrawler 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Trump did it to himself... He wants total control of the country and his crazy mind will stop at nothing to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, TBBills said: Trump did it to himself... He wants total control of the country and his crazy mind will stop at nothing to do it. Project much? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, CarpetCrawler said: Conform or be canceled seems pretty Nazi to me. Unfortunately it appears that you're not very smart. Exercising leverage (be it economic or social) is a lot different from, say, kick-starting genocide with kristallnacht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Unfortunately it appears that you're not very smart. Exercising leverage (be it economic or social) is a lot different from, say, kick-starting genocide with kristallnacht. Exercising leverage is an intellectually dishonest assessment of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Unfortunately it appears that you're not very smart. Exercising leverage (be it economic or social) is a lot different from, say, kick-starting genocide with kristallnacht. I'm a hell of a lot smarter than you, I can notice an equivalence when one is staring me in the face. This is Antifa's kristallnacht. Aggressive ignorance cracks me up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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