Steve O Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 What the heck. Now have to order food with alcohol, can't go to a bar just for a drink. Um, note to the governor...many bars sell food as as an extra, they make their money on drinks. https://www.wktv.com/content/news/Cuomo-Customers-must-order-food-with-alcohol-at-restaurants-bars-571791091.html "If you're not eating a meal and you're just drinking, then it's just an outdoor bar and people are mingling and they're not isolated at individual tables, and that's what we're seeing," said Cuomo. "Also, no walk-up bar service - all service at bar tops must be only for seated patrons who are socially distanced by six feet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 https://cbs6albany.com/news/coronavirus/restaurant-unveils-1-cuomo-chips-after-new-governor-announces-alcohol-regulations 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Hoping Comrade Cuomo makes this same order applicable to Starbucks and other smoothie bars. You can’t just order an “organic green tea latte mochachino goat milk frappe”...you have to order a 3000 calorie carrot cake muffin as well. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Maybe New York is getting it right. Other places are getting walloped. Still putting the pieces together, but don't you think they see the connections? 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: Hoping Comrade Cuomo makes this same order applicable to Starbucks and other smoothie bars. You can’t just order an “organic green tea latte mochachino goat milk frappe”...you have to order a 3000 calorie carrot cake muffin as well. Do you sit there and drink the smoothie for hours every night while getting intoxicated and using bad judgement? I get it. People need their daily booze fix I am less worried about being a fat azz than an alcoholic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Maybe New York is getting it right. Other places are getting walloped. Still putting the pieces together, but don't you think they see the connections? Do you sit there and drink the smoothie for hours every night while getting intoxicated and using bad judgement? I get it. People need their daily booze fix You do realize that not everyone who goes to a bar to have a beer (can you imagine????) stays all night until they pass out and piss their pants, right? Some people like to go to a bar to have a couple beers and talk to their friends. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Remember, we're in a pandemic. We are in a situation where restaurants can be open because of how well citizens of the state have come together to social distance and wear masks. unfortunately, people are getting inebriated (that's not the unfortunate part) and failing to social distance (this is the unfortunate part) or wear masks when walking around the bar/restaurant (the other unfortunately part). When people are inebriated, Covid rules are not followed. I think it's a good rule. Bars and restaurants were not following the previous order. It's better than shutting them down entirely. I also think bar/restaurant owners should be subsidized for the amount of revenue they have lost, but that's for a different thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 This is nothing new depending on the state you live in. For example in VA: “For the mixed beverage licensee, current Virginia ABC regulations stipulate that a minimum 45 percent of the total gross sales must be from food and nonalcoholic beverages. Conversely, alcohol sales should comprise no more than 55 percent of these sales.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: You do realize that not everyone who goes to a bar to have a beer (can you imagine????) stays all night until they pass out and piss their pants, right? Some people like to go to a bar to have a couple beers and talk to their friends. Yes. There are many functional alcoholics. And, the second part. Don't you think that's how it's being spread and the behavior they are trying to alter, curb... Without the spoiled 2 year olds throwing a fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Remember, we're in a pandemic. We are in a situation where restaurants can be open because of how well citizens of the state have come together to social distance and wear masks. unfortunately, people are getting inebriated (that's not the unfortunate part) and failing to social distance (this is the unfortunate part) or wear masks when walking around the bar/restaurant (the other unfortunately part). When people are inebriated, Covid rules are not followed. I think it's a good rule. Bars and restaurants were not following the previous order. It's better than shutting them down entirely. I also think bar/restaurant owners should be subsidized for the amount of revenue they have lost, but that's for a different thread. God... So glad my Dad isn't living thru this. He'd have a 1,000 infected. They'd have a field day with his contact tracing. His personal space was 2 inches. In his drinking days, half that. /smh Edited July 17, 2020 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: You do realize that not everyone who goes to a bar to have a beer (can you imagine????) stays all night until they pass out and piss their pants, right? Some people like to go to a bar to have a couple beers and talk to their friends. And some people don't need to pass out to piss their pants after a couple IPA beers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yes. There are many functional alcoholics. And, the second part. Don't you think that's how it's being spread and the behavior they are trying to alter, curb... Without the spoiled 2 year olds throwing a fit. Wait ... so only alcoholics go to bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Gugny said: Wait ... so only alcoholics go to bars? I don't know. It depends on what you need and how often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Time to buy stock in Slim Jims and pickled eggs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: And some people don't need to pass out to piss their pants after a couple IPA beers... But some people definitely need a drink every day. I'd still call them alcoholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yes. There are many functional alcoholics. And, the second part. Don't you think that's how it's being spread and the behavior they are trying to alter, curb... Without the spoiled 2 year olds throwing a fit. 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: Wait ... so only alcoholics go to bars? 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I don't know. It depends on what you need and how often. When we go to get some drinks tonight I'm going to piss my pants in protest of having to buy food....even though I was planning on getting the fine mushroom spaghetti ? Thanks a lot Cuomo!! Oh wait, we live in Florida now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: When we go to get some drinks tonight I'm going to piss my pants in protest of having to buy food....even though I was planning on getting the fine mushroom spaghetti ? Thanks a lot Cuomo!! Oh wait, we live in Florida now Just do your best. LoL... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Restaurants flaunting stuff like this... 34 minutes ago, Gugny said: https://cbs6albany.com/news/coronavirus/restaurant-unveils-1-cuomo-chips-after-new-governor-announces-alcohol-regulations 14 minutes ago, ricojes said: will lead to this... 19 minutes ago, Mr Info said: This is nothing new depending on the state you live in. For example in VA: “For the mixed beverage licensee, current Virginia ABC regulations stipulate that a minimum 45 percent of the total gross sales must be from food and nonalcoholic beverages. Conversely, alcohol sales should comprise no more than 55 percent of these sales.” It ain't that bad in NY, people. We're in the middle of a PANDEMIC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) So you offer a combo drink/food deal...2.50 for an order of chips and a $1.50 for a beer. Still easy to get around it. There are gym's in WNY that are open that are now calling themselves places of worship. You do what you have to do when owning a business. It's up to the public whether or not to go... Not saying I agree with it, but I understand the hail Mary's... Edited July 17, 2020 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: There are many functional alcoholics. I don't like your tone, Mr. Osuch......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) pickled eggs would need to be individually sealed 39 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Time to buy stock in Slim Jims and pickled eggs! I think that is an old outdated law that was changed back around 2010 which led to the boom in the richmond brewing industry....could be mistaken though *****edit, that is for mixed beverage licenses. Breweries aren't normally mixed beverage 28 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Restaurants flaunting stuff like this... will lead to this... It ain't that bad in NY, people. We're in the middle of a PANDEMIC. Edited July 17, 2020 by The Poojer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 58 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Do you sit there and drink the smoothie for hours every night while getting intoxicated and using bad judgement? I get it. People need their daily booze fix I am less worried about being a fat azz than an alcoholic. I have seen just as many young, uber-intelligent, metro-sexuals nursing a "spiced green spinach smoothie with a shot of quinoa oil and a sprinkle of llama milk" over the course of two hours while browsing the latest issue of Art Voice or The Atlantic. They will sit there for hours and chat, solve world problems and shame me as I walk past their front window seats covered in faux leather cushions. Alcohol isn't the issue...people being close to each other indoors is the real problem. Why target bars and taverns without requiring food purchases at other businesses that condone the very same conduct (gathering of people indoors that aren't eating)? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: I have seen just as many young, uber-intelligent, metro-sexuals nursing a "spiced green spinach smoothie with a shot of quinoa oil and a sprinkle of llama milk" over the course of two hours while browsing the latest issue of Art Voice or The Atlantic. They will sit there for hours and chat, solve world problems and shame me as I walk past their front window seats covered in faux leather cushions. Alcohol isn't the issue...people being close to each other indoors is the real problem. Why target bars and taverns without requiring food purchases at other businesses that condone the very same conduct (gathering of people indoors that aren't eating)? Apples ? & Oranges ?. People drink intoxicating libations and social distancing breaks down. Yes, it is about alcohol. It's that simple. And... If you drink ? alone, that's another red flag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: If you drink ? alone, that's another red flag. Marge: Homie, do you ever drink alone? Homer: Does the Lord count as a person? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Apples ? & Oranges ?. People drink intoxicating libations and social distancing breaks down. Yes, it is about alcohol. It's that simple. And... If you drink ? alone, that's another red flag. Well I guess I’m in trouble then. Good thing we have people around here to help us alcoholics from further ruining our lives. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Apples ? & Oranges ?. People drink intoxicating libations and social distancing breaks down. Yes, it is about alcohol. It's that simple. And... If you drink ? alone, that's another red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, The Poojer said: pickled eggs would need to be individually sealed I think that is an old outdated law that was changed back around 2010 which led to the boom in the richmond brewing industry....could be mistaken though *****edit, that is for mixed beverage licenses. Breweries aren't normally mixed beverage You mean no more bobbing for pickled eggs?!?! 56 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I have seen just as many young, uber-intelligent, metro-sexuals nursing a "spiced green spinach smoothie with a shot of quinoa oil and a sprinkle of llama milk" over the course of two hours while browsing the latest issue of Art Voice or The Atlantic. They will sit there for hours and chat, solve world problems and shame me as I walk past their front window seats covered in faux leather cushions. Alcohol isn't the issue...people being close to each other indoors is the real problem. Why target bars and taverns without requiring food purchases at other businesses that condone the very same conduct (gathering of people indoors that aren't eating)? Everything was going great until you decided to sprinkle some Llama milk in my drink... Im vegan!! At least make sure it's unpasteurized Llama milk to make me feel better please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Well I guess I’m in trouble then. Good thing we have people around here to help us alcoholics from further ruining our lives. It's not necessarily that. Drink all you want. Just distance. People suffer varying levels of DDTs if they don't get it. The State is just trying to curb the social aspect. People make bad judgement when drinking. This is same thing as driving drunk. You are affecting others. Then you bring it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It's not necessarily that. Drink all you want. Just distance. People suffer varying levels of DDTs if they don't get it. The State is just trying to curb the social aspect. People make bad judgement when drinking. This is same thing as driving drunk. You are affecting others. Then you bring it home. This is the same thing as all the coffee drinkers out there... You pound your Tim Hortons' and your Starbuckses then decide to road rage all over the place!!! I swear if I see another person sipping a thermos or hot Yeti while driving...should be considered DWI!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Apples ? & Oranges ?. People drink intoxicating libations and social distancing breaks down. Yes, it is about alcohol. It's that simple. And... If you drink ? alone, that's another red flag. Are you a lockboy or an alcohol counselor? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Gugny said: Are you a lockboy or an alcohol counselor? Both. LoL... Are you an alcoholic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Both. LoL... Are you an alcoholic? Based on your definition? Absolutely! Thanks for the heads up! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: This is the same thing as all the coffee drinkers out there... You pound your Tim Hortons' and your Starbuckses then decide to road rage all over the place!!! I swear if I see another person sipping a thermos or hot Yeti while driving...should be considered DWI!! No it's not. Boy I got got dependency fighting tooth and nail in this thread. Just eat some food. Better to be fat than have a high BAC. Just now, Gugny said: Based on your definition? Absolutely! Thanks for the heads up! It's okay. Just don't spread COVID-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No it's not. Boy I got got dependency fighting tooth and nail in this thread. Just eat some food. Better to be fat than have a high BAC. It's okay. Just don't spread COVID-19. Lol caffeine addiction is the definition of dependency... Stimulant to your adrenal glands. People road raging is even more dangerous than drunk driving as they intend to hurt somebody 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Lol caffeine addiction is the definition of dependency... Stimulant to your adrenal glands. People road raging is even more dangerous than drunk driving as they intend to hurt somebody Yes. No. Will give you a like though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 If Cuomo wants to crackdown on this because of problems in the NYC area, why not just issue the edict for the counties that make up the NYC boroughs? Why penalize some random establishments in the middle of WNY and other places upstate who never have more than 10-15 people at any given time. Some big apple residents are not only ruining it for the rest of the state, but they are also going to once again be the cause of a rise in cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: If Cuomo wants to crackdown on this because of problems in the NYC area, why not just issue the edict for the counties that make up the NYC boroughs? Why penalize some random establishments in the middle of WNY and other places upstate who never have more than 10-15 people at any given time. Some big apple residents are not only ruining it for the rest of the state, but they are also going to once again be the cause of a rise in cases. I live 3 hours north of NYC and many bars have been reported for violating social distancing rules. I know it's mostly a NYC problem, but I think it's safe to say that the non-compliance is widespread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Nice to see @ExiledInIllinois in this thread being his typical judgmental self. If you drink at a bar you must be an alcoholic. If you eat a 50 mg THC edible every day with your morning coffee you must be a pot head. SMH ?♂️ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Nice to see @ExiledInIllinois in this thread being his typical judgmental self. If you drink at a bar you must be an alcoholic. If you eat a 50 mg THC edible every day with your morning coffee you must be a pot head. SMH ?♂️ If you touch yourself to McCaffery and Kuechly videos every night before you go to sleep you must be gay... It goes on and on... Edited July 17, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: If you touch yourself to McCaffery and Kuechly videos every night before you go to sleep you must be gay... It goes on and on... That’s gay?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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