dickleyjones Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Maybe he could levitate like David Blaine with one knee bent and the other leg straight. Everyone happy? if he actually levitated that would be awesome! i know i would be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, bmur66 said: Jim Brown respects the flag https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2790070-jim-brown-says-hed-never-kneel-during-anthem-wont-denigrate-my-flag?fbclid=IwAR1-egt8eBk6DoKnSfRA2FwfxizqVYlOTsfzvxw4uKAuwuHB77x7KGi6_O4 That was 2018. Although I do not pretend to know how Jim Brown feels about the issue now, the recent events have changed many people's minds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: a revealing "response". So what happens if there’s 3 , 4 , 5 or 12 players who are standing for the anthem ? I gave you my opinion that a coach should support ALL of his players.. Now if a team as a whole including the coaches decide to kneel then yes he should... personally I don’t give a rats ars what he does , what I want him to do is a good job coaching and win games Edited June 15, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, DrW said: That was 2018. Although I do not pretend to know how Jim Brown feels about the issue now, the recent events have changed many people's minds. Have people truly changed their minds? Or are they following the herd in order to not be canceled or publicly shamed (e.g. Drew Brees) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 question, for those who do not support; ever serve your country ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Have people truly changed their minds? Or are they following the herd in order to not be canceled or publicly shamed (e.g. Drew Brees) There were personal statements by members above in the thread that their awareness has changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Have people truly changed their minds? Or are they following the herd in order to not be canceled or publicly shamed (e.g. Drew Brees) I think there’s a little bit of both 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, Putin said: I think there’s a little bit of both Absolutely, I think some have changed their worldly outlook, others are just covering their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, BillsFan17 said: Absolutely, I think some have changed their worldly outlook, others are just covering their ass. I think we at the point where EVERYONE MUST KNEEL for the anthem if not the cameras will be pointed at them , and you know what will be said about them ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Why does anyone care how someone else chooses to consume the anthem? I don’t get that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why does anyone care how someone else chooses to consume the anthem? I don’t get that. I still don't understand why it's played before sporting events? Why is it played before my 10 year old nephews hockey game? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I don’t really mind the kneeling.... what bothers me is the league and these players don’t have a message. Many are kneeling for different reasons. The reason is bigger than BLM so let’s not just make that the reason!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 20 hours ago, Putin said: How many of us have the ok ?? And yes if Boss gives the ok then the answer is obviously yes , but if that ok will divide the company then there will be a discussion and that’s where we are at the moment If I am reading your response correctly. You are saying IF you were the commish or an NFL owner you would have a discussion on whether your players would be allowed to kneel. And possibly would not allow it because of strife in either your revenue stream and/or your workforce. But as of right now, the NFL at large has given the OK. So your issue is no longer with the kneeling, it is the fact that they are allowing it, because YOU THINK they shouldn't kneel.And YOU can't kneel at work, so they shouldn't be able to kneel either. But the NFL has basically come out and said, for the time being, they don't give a crap if you turn off, and they are OK with it. Right now, people are making it a player issue, but in reality it no longer is an individual player issue. They can all kneel if they want. Their employer is allowing it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, nucci said: I still don't understand why it's played before sporting events? Why is it played before my 10 year old nephews hockey game? I have no idea. They don’t do it in the premier league. Obviously, the military’s sponsorship plays a role but think that it’s beyond that. The 10 year-old hockey game is a good example. It’s kind of weird when you think about it. I really don’t care if it plays or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, nucci said: I still don't understand why it's played before sporting events? Why is it played before my 10 year old nephews hockey game? Agreed, 1000000000% Its not played everyday before i start working, so why is it done at sporting events? 50% of the fans are not in their seats and are getting beer and chatting it up in the concourse anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: Agreed, 1000000000% Its not played everyday before i start working, so why is it done at sporting events? 50% of the fans are not in their seats and are getting beer and chatting it up in the concourse anyways. Tradition ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: question, for those who do not support; ever serve your country ? Great question, but be careful what you ask for with that question on here. You’ll feel the full wrath of the resident Drew Brees’es. The “well my grandaddy served and I’m steaming mad about this” crowd. It’s sad after all this people would rather spend all this time and energy fighting and deflecting vs. stopping to actually listen and ask themselves whether we have a legitimate race problem in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I have no idea. They don’t do it in the premier league. Obviously, the military’s sponsorship plays a role but think that it’s beyond that. The 10 year-old hockey game is a good example. It’s kind of weird when you think about it. I really don’t care if it plays or not. I agree it should only be played during international games , like during the Olympics ? Maybe during hockey games when American team plays vs Canadian? Edited June 15, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) I would remove the Anthem from All domestic games , if the players from both teams want to get together and kneel before the kickoff who would have an issue with that ? IMO it would be great for both teams and the coaches take two minutes and kneel/protest to show that they all support the cause that we ALL agree with !!! WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ??? Edited June 15, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Putin said: I would remove the Anthem from All domestic games , if the players from both teams want to get together and kneel before the kickoff who would have an issue with that ? IMO it would be great for both teams and the coaches take two minutes and kneel/protest to show that they all support the cause that we ALL agree with !!! WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ??? Not a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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