HappyBillsFan Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Beastie and def jam. Run DMC was also a huge reason why as well. Yes, It’s Tricky indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Every form of American music is rooted in the blues, which black people basically invented. Take a blues song and: speed it up - rock and roll use acoustic instruments - folk crank it up and add distortion - heavy metal change the emphasized beat - reggae add a southern accent and maybe a pedal steel guitar - country throw in a banjo and/or mandolin - bluegrass adjust the groove - R&B use only the "magic" I-IV-V-vi chord progression and some vapid lyrics - pop emphasize the beat and talk instead of singing - rap You can argue that the music industry didn't think much of these genres until white people started recording them, but that's just acknowledging that the industry was (and to a large extent, still is) racist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, HappyBillsFan said: The Beasty Boys were key to getting Def Records off the ground, strictly because they were white... they need credit for the whole genre... without them, who knows what would have happened. The one that came even before them was Blondie... a white, woman rapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyBillsFan Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Is it time to move this to the PPP thread for a real dialogue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Herc11 said: The one that came even before them was Blondie... a white, woman rapper. And she’s the one who just ended up on TV, doing a something the AA community had been doing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 hours ago, WhoTom said: Every form of American music is rooted in the blues, which black people basically invented. Take a blues song and: speed it up - rock and roll use acoustic instruments - folk crank it up and add distortion - heavy metal change the emphasized beat - reggae add a southern accent and maybe a pedal steel guitar - country throw in a banjo and/or mandolin - bluegrass adjust the groove - R&B use only the "magic" I-IV-V-vi chord progression and some vapid lyrics - pop emphasize the beat and talk instead of singing - rap You can argue that the music industry didn't think much of these genres until white people started recording them, but that's just acknowledging that the industry was (and to a large extent, still is) racist. Way oversimplified. You're way overlooking the huge influence of Scots/Irish music on Appalachian music, and the huge influence of Appalachian music on Folk, early country, and bluegrass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Way oversimplified. You're way overlooking the huge influence of Scots/Irish music on Appalachian music, and the huge influence of Appalachian music on Folk, early country, and bluegrass. Oversimplified, yes, and I agree about other influences. But at the core, all those styles, including Appalachian, are offshoots of the blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Jauronimo said: While Elvis invented rap as everybody knows, the black community really drove the direction and advancement of rap until Vanilla Ice entered the scene and made the genre completely uncool for a number of years. DMX and his provocative barking ultimately revived rap music as a legitimate art form in 1998 but it has been all down hill from there. Cole Beasley is also a rapper and confessed person who loves to rap. The more you know. Budgie of Caninus revived provocative barking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Jauronimo said: While Elvis invented rap as everybody knows, the black community really drove the direction and advancement of rap until Vanilla Ice entered the scene and made the genre completely uncool for a number of years. DMX and his provocative barking ultimately revived rap music as a legitimate art form in 1998 but it has been all down hill from there. Cole Beasley is also a rapper and confessed person who loves to rap. The more you know. Where does Al Gore fit in? I think I’m missing out on some stuff....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Beastie and def jam. Run DMC was also a huge reason why as well. And LL Cool J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I was hoping Norman would call out Beasley for committing the most atrocious act of cultural appropriation since Al Jolson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 7 hours ago, HappyBillsFan said: You are personally responsible for giving people infractions for this kind of political nonsense that you are doing. If you are left and woke, this board is all for it. But if you have a counter argument, you will be suspended and banned... communism here we come, yikes Dude, if you freakin' clicked, you would see it links to football player Von Miller's piece in Time Magazine. The quote is by football player Von Miller, from that piece. PS: Maybe it's not your political views....maybe it's the things you do, and the manner in which you choose to express them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Jauronimo said: While Elvis invented rap as everybody knows, the black community really drove the direction and advancement of rap until Vanilla Ice entered the scene and made the genre completely uncool for a number of years. DMX and his provocative barking ultimately revived rap music as a legitimate art form in 1998 but it has been all down hill from there. Cole Beasley is also a rapper and confessed person who loves to rap. The more you know. What about Colt Ford ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 19 hours ago, HappyBillsFan said: The Beasty Boys were key to getting Def Records off the ground, strictly because they were white... they need credit for the whole genre... without them, who knows what would have happened. I honestly can't tell if your posts are serious or sarcasm but either way you are a clear TROLL. I honestly never thought I would say this but WELCOME TO MY IGNORE LIST! I've been on Bills message boards over 15 years and you are the first and probably last person I block. Im sure a **** like you will get a kick out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 19 hours ago, WhoTom said: Every form of American music is rooted in the blues, which black people basically invented. Take a blues song and: speed it up - rock and roll use acoustic instruments - folk crank it up and add distortion - heavy metal change the emphasized beat - reggae add a southern accent and maybe a pedal steel guitar - country throw in a banjo and/or mandolin - bluegrass adjust the groove - R&B use only the "magic" I-IV-V-vi chord progression and some vapid lyrics - pop emphasize the beat and talk instead of singing - rap You can argue that the music industry didn't think much of these genres until white people started recording them, but that's just acknowledging that the industry was (and to a large extent, still is) racist. I think country came from folk music which may be rooted elsewhere. But i do see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I was hoping Norman would call out Beasley for committing the most atrocious act of cultural appropriation since Al Jolson. I mean he does have a black wife and he can dunk too. And this is why stereotypes are wrong because this is not who I though a dude named Cole from Texas would be like. One of my favorite Bills. Great signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I mean he does have a black wife and he can dunk too. And this is why stereotypes are wrong because this is not who I though a dude named Cole from Texas would be like. One of my favorite Bills. Great signing. Beasley can dunk!? Just had to look up his height (5' 8")...that's crazy athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Beasley can dunk!? Just had to look up his height (5' 8")...that's crazy athleticism. https://www.stack.com/a/5-foot-8-cole-beasley-throws-down-massive-dunk-on-instagram there are people that look at a guy like Beasley and think they can play in the nfl. No you can’t. These guys are another level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: https://www.stack.com/a/5-foot-8-cole-beasley-throws-down-massive-dunk-on-instagram there are people that look at a guy like Beasley and think they can play in the nfl. No you can’t. These guys are another level. Agreed. Man that is impressive. I can dunk on my son's fisher price rim. But that is also only 3 feet tall lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Agreed. Man that is impressive. I can dunk on my son's fisher price rim. But that is also only 3 feet tall lol. "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" keep practicing and you’ll be in the nba dunk contest in no time. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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