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Are the Bills set at backup QB? Seems to me if Allen goes down the team could be in trouble. Barkley had that great game two years ago against the Jets, but I'm not confident that he can do the job for any length of time if he has to.

 

But I suppose most every team in the league has questions at backup QB.

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i say no....to me barkley is a #3

 

i value the backup qb more than most. i think it's the 10th most important position on the team.

 

the way they addressing so many needs in free agency....makes me think a QB is possible in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

especially if they add a RB before the draft

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I personally like Barkley, I think he fits well in the QB room and understands his role. I think he has been a huge help to JA. I am hugely against signing a guy like cam who thinks he should be a starter. This is Josh's team and I don't really want to mess with the synergy in the QB room right now.

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1 minute ago, BruceVilanch said:

I personally like Barkley, I think he fits well in the QB room and understands his role. I think he has been a huge help to JA. I am hugely against signing a guy like cam who thinks he should be a starter. This is Josh's team and I don't really want to mess with the synergy in the QB room right now.

 

I don't hate Barkley and unlike many, think he is a serviceable backup QB who knows his role and is good in the QB room. With that said, I'm onboard for an upgrade, if one is available. Case Keenum would have been a nice upgrade, IMO. 

 

Also, I think Allen is established enough with the FO and fanbase, we shouldn't be concerned about the threat of the backup taking his job. I really don't think Josh will let that happen. At least not if he is the franchise QB I believe he will be.

 

Also, a young prospect with growth potential is something every team should have on their roster/PS.

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6 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

I don't hate Barkley and unlike many, think he is a serviceable backup QB who knows his role and is good in the QB room. With that said, I'm onboard for an upgrade, if one is available. Case Keenum would have been a nice upgrade, IMO. 

 

Also, I think Allen is established enough with the FO and fanbase, we shouldn't be concerned about the threat of the backup taking his job. I really don't think Josh will let that happen. At least not if he is the franchise QB I believe he will be.

 

Also, a young prospect with growth potential is something every team should have on their roster/PS.

Very well crafted and thought out response, thank you!

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2 hours ago, Dr. K said:

Are the Bills set at backup QB? Seems to me if Allen goes down the team could be in trouble. Barkley had that great game two years ago against the Jets, but I'm not confident that he can do the job for any length of time if he has to.

 

But I suppose most every team in the league has questions at backup QB.

Only when they have to actually play...

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I like Barkley and he's an average QB at best.  Although I may be ripped here, I'd like to see the Bills give Cam Newton a try.  I think a 1 year deal on a reasonable contract would be a smart investment and works for both Cam & the Bills. 

For the Bills: With Josh being a QB that runs a fair amount, the chance of injury is higher than many.  Cam gives you a QB with similar skills who can run the same offense.  He also provides a veteran presence in the QB room and might take a 10 million dollar 1 year deal.

For Cam: The big question for him is health.  Taking a back-up job for a year allows him to get healthier and on a 1 year deal provides him the chance to move somewhere as a starter.  

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48 minutes ago, VirginiaMike said:

I like Barkley and he's an average QB at best.  Although I may be ripped here, I'd like to see the Bills give Cam Newton a try.  I think a 1 year deal on a reasonable contract would be a smart investment and works for both Cam & the Bills. 

For the Bills: With Josh being a QB that runs a fair amount, the chance of injury is higher than many.  Cam gives you a QB with similar skills who can run the same offense.  He also provides a veteran presence in the QB room and might take a 10 million dollar 1 year deal.

For Cam: The big question for him is health.  Taking a back-up job for a year allows him to get healthier and on a 1 year deal provides him the chance to move somewhere as a starter.  

your logic is sound, but I don't think Cam (or his agent) would accept a backup job anywhere.

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Until you're 100% sure you have a franchise QB you should always draft a developmental one with the later picks every 2 or 3 years later. They make a nice backup and I agree with the other poster Barkley is a great #3 QB.

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I still like Kyle Sloter to replace Webb and maybe develop into a #2. But I like Barkley and I agree that he’s been really good for Josh in the QB room. I thought we’d try to grab Kyle Allen, but now he is in a situation where he has a chance to start. Outside of that, maybe a guy like Trevor Siemian, who spent a year with Diggs could help speed the Josh Allen and Diggs connection. But I still think that Barkley is good enough for now. 

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40 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:

your logic is sound, but I don't think Cam (or his agent) would accept a backup job anywhere.

I agree it might be hard to accept, but I don't see any teams who would be looking to bring him in as a starter, unless the starter gets hurt.  The other advantage for Cam if he signed with the Bills is he'll be going to a team with a legit shot at the Super Bowl.  If any team looks at him as a starter, I doubt they are any better than an 8-8 team.

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Gordon, Luton, or Stanley in the late rounds. I'd take a flyer on Stanley with the later 6th round pick. His game last year against Ohio state was excellent. 

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Was OK with Barkley till last season.  Don't know what happened to him but we do need a reliable backup QB.  Cam, despite where he comes from,  is not the answer for the BILLS.

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Matt Barkley is a national treasure and an inspiration to us all.  He has earned over $7,000,000 in his career while giving every American reason to believe they they too can be an NFL quarterback regardless of their complete lack of ability to do so with any degree of competency.  Nathan Peterman could only last 2 years throwing 3 TDs and 12 INT’s, but Barkley has not only been in the league since 2013, he’s left and come back TWICE despite 10 TDs and 21 INTs (and 10 fumbles for good measure).

 

The guy is legitimately terrible and has no business being on an NFL roster.  The Bills are in ‘win now’ mode, and Allen has missed games pretty much every season he’s played organized football, so a competent backup QB who can give you a shot at winning is a must.  This team is good enough to win ten or eleven games and the AFCE, but they aren’t good enough to do that with Barkley under center for 3-4 games.

 

Those worried about Josh’s psyche are off base.  If he’s so mentally fragile that he can’t perform with Cam Newton or Joe freaking Flacco standing on his own sideline, then how’s he supposed to look across the field in the postseason and see Pat Mahomes standing on the other sideline and not crap his pants?  Allen’s had two seasons of being treated with kid gloves while McBeane has worked to build a roster around him.  It’s time for him to go out there and win games.  Franchise QBs entering their prime aren’t intimidated by Andy Dalton looking over their shoulders.

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There is a reason why Barkley was still available when the Bills picked him up, what was it, 10 or so days before he had to start a game. Everyone likes him, gets along great with Josh, he had ONE great game against the Jets, but why is this the one spot people keep fighting for to not improve? I simply cannot for the life of me wrap my head around why so many people would rather have Barkley as the back up over Cam or Flacco if those guys were willing to come here and be the back up. Or if not those two, you mean to tell me that there is not one other guy some of you would like to have here to play the most important position on the field other than Matt Barkley in the event that Allen get hurt? Again, I think he a good guy, but you are completely 1,000% lying to yourself if you feel that position can’t be upgraded

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46 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Was OK with Barkley till last season.  Don't know what happened to him but we do need a reliable backup QB.  Cam, despite where he comes from,  is not the answer for the BILLS.

The only full game he played was the last one with the 2nd teamers. he also played in the NE game & threw an int. The year before he played like an all pro on the road in his only playing time. He's obviously not an all pro but seems to be a good backup. I do agree that we should be grooming a young QB on the practice squad - just in case of the "what ifs". What if Josh has a serious debilitating injury. What if he eventually decides that he would rather play closer to his family in Cali. What if he regresses. All of the above is not likely but neither was the corona virus. Just saying.

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1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

Oh good this thread is back...

 

 

lol

 

Cam??

 

Dalton??

 

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Seriously?

 

Dalton and Newton? Why on Earth would those guys take a backup role? There's not enough starting QB talent to go around. 

 

Why not Aaron Rogers on this note?

 

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