There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[shoshin]

6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s time for a new Task Force. This first group  were quick to ‘shut it all down’ and to ‘flatten the curve’...but they need new voices in there now. Fauchi and Birx are both nice people but they have ZERO ideas on where to go now or what to do next. Time to go to the bilullpen!

The guidelines are out there. No one seems to be following them. 

[B-Man]

 

 

MEDIA CRITICISM OF GOVERNOR KEMP FOR REOPENING GEORGIA IS DISHONEST AND HYPOCRITICAL:

 

“It is even more outrageous to watch the press completely disregard the specific guidance in Kemp’s order.

 

Then you can add blatant hypocrisy of the coverage when you review the announcement from Colorado’s Democrat governor, Jared Polis. I

 

t is infuriating. According to the Denver Post, Governor Polis has given his plan a catchy name, Safer at Home. Maybe that is the difference. However, the fundamentals are pretty similar, right down to tattoo parlors.”

 

It’s different when they do it, somehow.

 

[SoCal Deek]

49 minutes ago, shoshin said:

The guidelines are out there. No one seems to be following them. 

Maybe because they’re crap.

[shoshin]

49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Maybe because they’re crap.

Are you going support that or just leave it there without facts?
 

Most of the closed states could enter phase 1 under those guidelines now (except maybe the larger cities) but remain closed or have much more stringent requirements in place for opening. I prefer the Trump guidelines over any plan I’ve seen from a state. If states would follow the guidelines, they could be opening their economies, albeit carefully. 
 

Edited April 25, 2020 by shoshin

[SoCal Deek]

28 minutes ago, shoshin said:

Are you going support that or just leave it there without facts?
 

Most of the closed dates could enter phase 1 under those guidelines now (except maybe the larger cities) but remain closed or have much more stringent requirements in place for opening. I prefer the Trump guidelines over any plan I’ve seen from a state. If states would follow the guidelines, they could be opening their economies, albeit carefully. 
 

I’m going to leave it there. I’m done with this. 

[Q-baby!]

22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’m going to leave it there. I’m done with this. 

???

[B-Man]

 

 

 

TYLER COWEN: How things are, in a few short words. Quotable:

If we keep the economy closed at current levels, it will continue to decay, and at some point turn into irreversible, non-linear damage. No one knows when, or how to model the course of that process. That decay also will eat into our future public health capacities, and perhaps boost hunger and poverty around the world.

 

If we keep people locked up at current levels, fewer of them will be exposed to the virus, and in the meantime we can develop better treatments, and also improve test and trace capabilities. No one knows how quickly those improvements will come, or how to model the course of that process, or how much net good they will do.

 

The relative pace of those two processes should determine our best course of action. No one knows the relative pace of either of those two processes. Yet commentators pretend to be increasingly knowledgeable, moralizing based on the pretense of knowledge they do not have.

 

 

Indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Q-baby!]

28 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

TYLER COWEN: How things are, in a few short words. Quotable:

If we keep the economy closed at current levels, it will continue to decay, and at some point turn into irreversible, non-linear damage. No one knows when, or how to model the course of that process. That decay also will eat into our future public health capacities, and perhaps boost hunger and poverty around the world.

 

If we keep people locked up at current levels, fewer of them will be exposed to the virus, and in the meantime we can develop better treatments, and also improve test and trace capabilities. No one knows how quickly those improvements will come, or how to model the course of that process, or how much net good they will do.

 

The relative pace of those two processes should determine our best course of action. No one knows the relative pace of either of those two processes. Yet commentators pretend to be increasingly knowledgeable, moralizing based on the pretense of knowledge they do not have.

 

 

Indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

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Sounds awfully familiar?

[RiotAct]

12 hours ago, mead107 said:

Why go back to work? WHO says you can get it a second time. 

yep.  Shut it down... for life.

[Reality Check]

Now that we know millions can work from home via the internet, I suggest we outsource those jobs next, while shutting down our food production and opening our borders to the third world. We can all live happily ever after on welfare. Just remember to do exactly what the government tells you to do and take your shots when ordered. A good citizen obeys their government.

[Mitt Lieth]

A good citizen also obeys your president without question.  Get the lamestream media out of here and give dear leader a chance! 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

Maybe we are not praying enough? Why hasn't Mike Pence led a nationwide prayer? 

 

We are straying from God, that's why there is a pandemic 

[B-Man]

 

 

THE TIMES’ BRET STEPHENS IS ANGERING LOTS OF NEW YORKERS RIGHT NOW: 

 

America Shouldn’t Have to Play by New York Rules.

I write this from New York, so it’s an argument against my personal interest. But I don’t see why people living in a Nashville suburb should not be allowed to return to their jobs because people like me choose to live, travel and work in urban sardine cans.

 

Gina Raimondo, the Rhode Island governor, was on to something when, a few weeks ago, she wanted to quarantine drivers arriving from New York. The rest of America needs to get back to life. We New Yorkers prefer our own company, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

JON GABRIEL: No, those who want to reopen the economy don’t want to kill old people.

 

“Lowering the speed limit to 5 mph would eliminate traffic-related deaths, but we accept an increased risk for the benefits of travel. The same approach applies to COVID-19 and every other public health issue.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

From the above link:

 

“.. Americans are being told they must still play by New York rules — with all the hardships they entail — despite having neither New York’s living conditions nor [its] health outcomes. This is bad medicine, misguided public policy, and horrible politics.”

 

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As the rates of asymptomatic infection climb higher and higher, realize that mortality is plummeting like a rock.

Isolate high risk groups, everyone else can go back to work

 

 

 

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Edited April 26, 2020 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

 

 

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[OldTimeAFLGuy]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

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...perhaps I'm dead wrong, but there has to be some concern with food packaging plants experiencing high rates of Covid-19 and being shut down.....how can the food supply chain NOT be affected?.......what do you think would be the exacerbation to current "cabin fever" if it became widely public that the food supply chain was in jeopardy?....

[IYKYK]

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...I am in favor of "Phase I-III Federal Guidelines" relative to states reopening, with emphasis on "guidelines"....A dictating "one size fits all" from the Federal level makes zero sense IMO.....states have duly elected their leadership regardless of party affiliation, so let them show their leadership now....granted, there is NOT one elected official stateside, regardless of party, who ever imagined EVER facing a nationwide crisis such as Covid-19....but as the old adage says, "WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GET GOING"...so let's see and hope for the best.........

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[B-Man]

 

 NYC tailor defies state order: ‘I’m opening my doors come hell or high water.’