atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, ny33 said: that’s absurdly cheap No it’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: These are the type of players the Bills should be signing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, SCBills said: Where, exactly, are the Browns getting all this money to bring in Beckham and Landry, then add Hooper and Conklin this year? They have to be up against the cap at this point, no? Only in BUF does the cap seem to be an obstacle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: Where, exactly, are the Browns getting all this money to bring in Beckham and Landry, then add Hooper and Conklin this year? They have to be up against the cap at this point, no? They rolled over a lot of cap space over a lot of years. The Giants also paid out OBJ's bonus which helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Ya know.... part of me wanted to sign Conklin but if that money goes to Dion Dawkins, I’m glad we sat out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Beane said he didn’t plan on going big game hunting. So I’m not really expecting them to throw around big money. I’m expecting more mid tier and depth signings. or maybe a surprise trade. I obviously want to see Bills signings like everyone else, but I doubt they are going to burn though all the cap space they just went though all that pain (in 2018) to acquire. I expect the big money to go to Tre and other players the Bills drafted. (though I wouldn’t be surprised to see them go after Clowney with the past rumored interest). There is no award for creating cap space...got to do something with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The Browns have some real talent, not just named. They still have big holes at LB (2), S (2) and LT. They also need a quality nickel CB and depth along the DL. That seems very possible at this point. It’s no guarantee of success of course. Coaching has to be good, players have to buy in and mesh, etc. There is real potential there though. I think they will be decent this year. I never really bought in last year largely because of Kitchens. If there are 7 spots I think the Browns take one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, SCBills said: Where, exactly, are the Browns getting all this money to bring in Beckham and Landry, then add Hooper and Conklin this year? They have to be up against the cap at this point, no? Not tied up with a big QB contract like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think they will be decent this year. I never really bought in last year largely because of Kitchens. If there are 7 spots I think the Browns take one of them. If you mean playoff spots, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: I'm starting to get nervous are we going to sign anybody we have all this money what are we doing? Beane is just waiting. He knows who he wants and who is going to be available at a fair price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Dopey said: If you mean playoff spots, I agree. I do fine sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, SCBills said: Where, exactly, are the Browns getting all this money to bring in Beckham and Landry, then add Hooper and Conklin this year? They have to be up against the cap at this point, no? Rookie deal qb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: It’s far more often than not a poor idea to get caught up in free agent frenzy. The overbidding causes poor contracts. For every free agency signing that works out, a disproportionate amount do not. That’s fair. But people here lauded the Bills moves last season - and still do. They made Morse the highest paid center in the league. While he is definitely an above average center, he is not the best. Conklin is set to be the third highest paid RT and he’s above average but not third best. Those moves feel an awful lot alike. At TE the Bills signed Kroft to a 3 year, $21M deal (admittedly far less lauded). Hooper is getting a 4 year, $44M deal from the Browns this season. I’d much rather have Hooper for $11M/yr than Kroft for $7M/yr. 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think they will be decent this year. I never really bought in last year largely because of Kitchens. If there are 7 spots I think the Browns take one of them. Yeah. The talent is there. The coaching looks a lot, lot, lot better. It’s tough to be optimistic with the Browns, but the table seems set for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: That’s fair. But people here lauded the Bills moves last season - and still do. They made Morse the highest paid center in the league. While he is definitely an above average center, he is not the best. Conklin is set to be the third highest paid RT and he’s above average but not third best. Those moves feel an awful lot alike. At TE the Bills signed Kroft to a 3 year, $21M deal (admittedly far less lauded). Hooper is getting a 4 year, $44M deal from the Browns this season. I’d much rather have Hooper for $11M/yr than Kroft for $7M/yr. Yeah. The talent is there. The coaching looks a lot, lot, lot better. It’s tough to be optimistic with the Browns, but the table seems set for them. I think Conklin is pretty close to the best RT.... what they paying him as... third best? Ramzcyk at the Saints, Collins with the Cowboys... after that I am struggling to come up with others I'd take over Conklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Damn it, man! He was #1 on my "wants" list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I love that the Jets lost out lol Jets front office: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Insert your favorite Adam Gase eyeballs gif I would love to hear the reactions from the Jets radio coverage guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: That’s fair. But people here lauded the Bills moves last season - and still do. They made Morse the highest paid center in the league. While he is definitely an above average center, he is not the best. Conklin is set to be the third highest paid RT and he’s above average but not third best. Those moves feel an awful lot alike. At TE the Bills signed Kroft to a 3 year, $21M deal (admittedly far less lauded). Hooper is getting a 4 year, $44M deal from the Browns this season. I’d much rather have Hooper for $11M/yr than Kroft for $7M/yr. Yeah. The talent is there. The coaching looks a lot, lot, lot better. It’s tough to be optimistic with the Browns, but the table seems set for them. Kroft and Smith essentially = Hooper Nsekhe and Long + a few M = Conklin Hopkins = $12.5M in cap space Sorry but we could have done all of this and still had a ton of cap space. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Conklin is pretty close to the best RT.... what they paying him as... third best? Ramzcyk at the Saints, Collins with the Cowboys... after that I am struggling to come up with others I'd take over Conklin. That’s actually a good point. Mike McGlinchey in SF and probably Schwartz with the Falcons. I’m blanking on a fifth though. Just now, ngbills said: Kroft and Smith essentially = Hooper Nsekhe and Long + a few M = Conklin Hopkins = $12.5M in cap space Sorry but we could have done all of this and still had a ton of cap space. I think you missed my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Kroft and Smith essentially = Hooper Nsekhe and Long + a few M = Conklin Hopkins = $12.5M in cap space Sorry but we could have done all of this and still had a ton of cap space. Your math is a bit off. Kroft makes 4 million, Smith 2.5ish that's well short of Hooper's contract. Ty and Long falls way short of Conklin too. I also wouldn't go out calling McBeane cheap and a moron just yet. Plenty of good quality players and "Big Names" left out on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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